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Cinnamon Bear
Aug 29, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Her 2020 campaign message is just going to be her executing hostages each time a state doesn't vote for her

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bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Her 2020 campaign message is just going to be her executing hostages each time a state doesn't vote for her

I'd vote for her if she would shoot me first.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Cinnamon Bear posted:

Her 2020 campaign message is just going to be her executing hostages each time a state doesn't vote for her

TBH I'd vote for her if she did that.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

steinrokkan posted:

MAGA

vs

"Attempting To Make The United States of America Improved in Desirable Qualities, As It Once Was, For The Sake of The Future, Which Should Be Better Than Today - Within A Reasonable Scope of Gradual Change - Thanks To Our Efforts

Wonk our way to a better America!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Dreddout posted:

Think about it, we could have full communism now if only trump didn't stop us from killing anyone with a sub 6 figure salary!

tromb will solve the heroin addiction.by moabing Appalachia

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
Hillary will say it's inhumane and we should use neutron bombs instead

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Here it is folks, from the new book

quote:

"It was a vision Hillary herself couldn't articulate for them. But the one aspect of her campaign that she was most confident about was that none of the tribes, separately or in collaboration, had any idea how to construct a winning message for her. In her view, it was up to the people she paid to find the right message for her -- a construction deeply at odds with the way Sanders and Trump built their campaigns around their own gut feelings about where to lead the country."

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
not gonna lie I read parts of the book this morning on my commute the day it came out

it's obviously written in the same style as game change, it's quite obvsly rushed and parts of it is poorly edited, but still contains plenty of lols and insider scopes to make it worth the $15

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

TBH I'd vote for her if she did that.

She'd probably have to get beltway creeps under the pretense that they were going to be staffers to be her hostages, because at this point even dogs whine and crawl away when she comes near, so I say just let her mow them down.

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

This book has some good insight on Clinton's 2020 campaign strategy:

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Typo posted:

not gonna lie I read parts of the book this morning on my commute the day it came out

it's obviously written in the same style as game change, it's quite obvsly rushed and parts of it is poorly edited, but still contains plenty of lols and insider scopes to make it worth the $15

How harsh is it on Clinton? Or is it blaming every one but Hillary?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

BexGu posted:

How harsh is it on Clinton? Or is it blaming every one but Hillary?

it pretty much flat out says everything is Hillary's fault though she's not without her good moments

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
Does the book mention Fight Song?

This is important.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Echo Chamber posted:

Does the book mention Fight Song?

This is important.

quote:

Despite advice from her campaign staff urging her not to make unscreened Snapchats, she nonetheless released the now notorious "just chilling in Cedar Rapids" video after storming out and disappearing from a campaign meeting in Iowa. She was found passed out by a pair of secret service agents hours later, apparently having suffering a fainting spell at the waterfront.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Jesus please us, I bet the minute her butt touched the desk chair in the Oval Office, she would exhale with satisfaction one last time and pass from this earth, returning to the Manichean hive devil mind that spawned her.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009


how loving narcissistic do you have to be to run for president when you regularly collapse and have to be found by the goddamn secret service

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
It was a quandary that would plague her throughout the campaign. After nearly a year on the campaign trail, and hundreds of stops at diners, coffee shops, and high school gymnasiums and just as many roundtables with young professionals and millworkers, Hillary still couldn’t figure out why Americans were so angry or how she could bring the country together. She had tried to learn the lessons of 2008 and had built a campaign that was different, if too similar in some respects, this time around. But fundamental changes in the electorate eluded her grasp. She couldn’t find ways to connect with portions of the primary electorate that were driven to Sanders because he represented an all-out assault on the establishment thinking at the core of her being.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the answer to this thread

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Terror Sweat posted:

how loving narcissistic do you have to be to run for president when you regularly collapse and have to be found by the goddamn secret service

This should be in future textbooks.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
is that book like vetted at all or is it just a fantasy novel

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Terror Sweat posted:

how loving narcissistic do you have to be to run for president when you regularly collapse and have to be found by the goddamn secret service

To think how she got David Brock to almost do a health based attack on Bernie, even though he drove himself to his own rallies in a airport rental car lol

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

etalian posted:

To think how she got David Brock to almost do a health based attack on Bernie, even though he drove himself to his own rallies in a airport rental car lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_J6gmJYiU
[uses mouth to imitate the doppler effect of passing racecar]

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

Modest Mao posted:

is that book like vetted at all or is it just a fantasy novel

It's a fun read for the insider gossip, but the only member of the campaign that is criticized at length in the book is Mook. It feels like the authors wanted to protect access to future high-level sources (e.g. Podesta gets a fairly decent representation) and since Mook's political future seems to be limited to talking head slots, it was an easy choice to go after him

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

GlyphGryph posted:

Here it is folks, from the new book
it's hard to sell your platform and vision to the american people when it is economically hostile to the vast majority of them

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




wait is this true

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Typo posted:

It was a quandary that would plague her throughout the campaign. After nearly a year on the campaign trail, and hundreds of stops at diners, coffee shops, and high school gymnasiums and just as many roundtables with young professionals and millworkers, Hillary still couldn’t figure out why Americans were so angry or how she could bring the country together. She had tried to learn the lessons of 2008 and had built a campaign that was different, if too similar in some respects, this time around. But fundamental changes in the electorate eluded her grasp. She couldn’t find ways to connect with portions of the primary electorate that were driven to Sanders because he represented an all-out assault on the establishment thinking at the core of her being.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the answer to this thread

what are they mad about, things are great!

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Hillary was thiiiis close to a Romney-style "borrow some money from your parents if you have to."

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Modest Mao posted:

is that book like vetted at all or is it just a fantasy novel

Hillary thinking she would win is the fantasy

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Shear Modulus posted:

wait is this true

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Godzilla07 posted:

It's a fun read for the insider gossip, but the only member of the campaign that is criticized at length in the book is Mook. It feels like the authors wanted to protect access to future high-level sources (e.g. Podesta gets a fairly decent representation) and since Mook's political future seems to be limited to talking head slots, it was an easy choice to go after him

The author said the Hill men had even more damage control this time around which made finding people much harder to interview.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Yeah, it does seem fairly careful to mostly focus on Mook and the Clintons, political dead ends. The other campaign folks seem to get off scot free.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Panzeh posted:

Yeah, it does seem fairly careful to mostly focus on Mook and the Clintons, political dead ends. The other campaign folks seem to get off scot free.

Also sounds like the people who did get interviewed were pretty much focused on throwing Mook under the bus, probably to avoid any responsibility for their part in the running the failed campaign.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Authors of Shattered are in the pocket of Big Venom Snake.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

How alarmed should the democrats be that Trump is swooping in behind the "Big blue wall" and nabbing people that used to be their base?

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/854417489597419521

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/854440380120440832

And he's still doing it. Mock this all you want, but this speaks to the people I grew up in such a way that it crosses political ideology.

These are the people that Hillary shed in favor of trying to get middle class moderate republicans. A group that doesn't even exist.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

there are no jobs in wisconsin

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Uncle Wemus posted:

there are no jobs in wisconsin

Soeaking of wisconsin.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/two-american-families/

If you ever want to see the failures of neoliberalism, nafta, etc? Pro click. dumped their jobs overseas and made them take work for less pay, underemployed. Not only that? It crushed their home lives. One family lost their home, and the parents broke up. The other? Literally in tears and called themselves "failures" because they were broke.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

just a reminder that obama was pushing TPP throughout the entire general election season when it was so unpopular even hillary's weather vane was able to get her to distance herself from it

the drafted democratic party platform was not allowed to disavow the TPP in any capacity

clinton surrrogates in a media gaffe assured others that hillary secretly supported TPP

even when clinton distanced herself from the TPP, her language was mealy mouthed weasel words that would allow herself to say she evolved to later support it again if it had unimportant changes

lol the arrogance of the dems

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Uncle Wemus posted:

there are no jobs in wisconsin

The job mines are empty, and the last job motherlode has been smoldering under the surface for decades, impossible to reach.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

FuzzySkinner posted:

How alarmed should the democrats be that Trump is swooping in behind the "Big blue wall" and nabbing people that used to be their base?

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/854417489597419521

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/854440380120440832

And he's still doing it. Mock this all you want, but this speaks to the people I grew up in such a way that it crosses political ideology.

These are the people that Hillary shed in favor of trying to get middle class moderate republicans. A group that doesn't even exist.
OTOH; probably a lot

OTOH:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/853583417916755968

The basic problem is that Trump has rich businessman friends who are telling him right now at this moment why he shouldn't actually kill free trade and thus continue to gently caress over the rustbelt workers who voted for him

lol the latest executive order is him ordering recommendations to changing the H1B1 program, something which has basically 0 benefits to the swing voter in Wi/Mi/PA no matter how much it gets reformed

I do think if trump does something with protectionism the H1B1 program is probably the one thing he goes for cuz it mostly hurts businessmen who are in the tech industry and those guys mostly don't like him anyway.

It's just that California/Washington where tech workers who would see their wages propped up and can change electoral math in apprecitable numbers live aren't swing states

Typo has issued a correction as of 16:11 on Apr 19, 2017

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Brother Friendship posted:

This book has some good insight on Clinton's 2020 campaign strategy:



that's unfair

necron lords have distinct personalities and motivations now

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
I skipped to the last chapter of the book

interesting tidbit: Trump was gonna concede if he lost, Kellyanne had a deal with the clintonites that the losing side concedes by phone within 15 minutes of AP calling a winner

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