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mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Yond Cassius posted:

I thought that was japanesechefsknife.com that you had problems with? "Mr. Itou" only shows up on that site, at least.

whoops, you are absolutely right.

sorry for being an idiot. edited my post. have never used CKTG, so no beefs there.

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signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Hey I just thought this thread might get a kick out of this already-successful kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/228096009/doppio-double-sided-kitchen-knife/description

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


That'd be cool as an enchanted d&d blade.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

signalnoise posted:

Hey I just thought this thread might get a kick out of this already-successful kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/228096009/doppio-double-sided-kitchen-knife/description



That is a tragically awful idea. I can't wait to see the user injury photos.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

That is a tragically awful idea. I can't wait to see the user injury photos.

Someone is going to unthinkingly use it in a pinch grip, probably serrated side up, add a little moisture and I dub thee "Slip 'n' Slice"!

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Worse than the guy ferry stab self garlic crusher knife.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
So a double-edged kitchen knife is a fantastically stupid idea but they at least offer a justification for it. Why's the thing got a blunted tip? Just wanted to make it look like a high-end garden trowel?

And this is nothing compared to the fundamental design stupidity, but the ~*Japanese steel*~ they make such a big deal about is apparently AUS-8, which is a premium steel the way Red Lobster is a premium seafood restaurant.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Worse than the guy ferry stab self garlic crusher knife.

The...what?

Hauki
May 11, 2010





For clarity, the thing on the handle is marketed as a garlic...smasher?

Scott808
Jul 11, 2001

signalnoise posted:

Hey I just thought this thread might get a kick out of this already-successful kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/228096009/doppio-double-sided-kitchen-knife/description



It looks like an upscale hori hori gardening tool.

Now my question is if I buy this Doppio double sided knife, is it good enough that I won't need the 60 Second Salad Maker? Or will the two of them together allow me to make the most amazing salad in just 15 seconds?

Kickstarter seemingly has a shitload of successfully funded lovely knife/knife related things.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004
Does anyone know any good knife stores in Tokyo or Osaka? I'm planning a trip to Japan in August and would love to come home with a decent chef knife.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

I don't think Japan has good knife stores.

Scott808
Jul 11, 2001

rockcity posted:

Does anyone know any good knife stores in Tokyo or Osaka? I'm planning a trip to Japan in August and would love to come home with a decent chef knife.

Sakai, Osaka
Konosuke (幸之祐) Kaneshige Hamono (カネシゲ刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町東4-3-26

Suisin (酔心) Knife System (ナイフシステム)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町西1-1-28

Tadatsuna (忠綱) Nagata Hamono (永田刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町東1-1-4

Ashi Hamono (芦刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区並松町14

Tokyo
Masamoto Tsukiji http://www.tukijimasamoto.co.jp/
Japan, 〒104-0045 Tōkyō-to, Chūō-ku, Tsukiji, 4 Chome−9, 築地4丁目9-9

Sugimoto Hamono https://www.sugimoto-hamono.com/
4 Chome-10-2 Tsukiji, Chuo, Tokyo 104-0045, Japan

Aritsugu Tsukiji http://www.aritsugu.jp/
4 Chome-9-16 Tsukiji, Chūō-ku, Tōkyō-to 104-0045, Japan

Nenohi http://www.nenohi.co.jp/
4 Chome-10-5 Tsukiji, 中央区 Tokyo 104-0045, Japan

Nihonbashi Kiya http://www.kiya-hamono.co.jp/english/

Kappabashi District https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappabashi-dori | http://www.kappabashi.or.jp/

Union Commerce http://www.unioncommerce.co.jp/
2 Chome-22-6 Nishiasakusa, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0035, Japan

Tsubaya http://tsubaya.co.jp/
3 Chome-7-3 Nishiasakusa, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0035, Japan

Kamata http://www.kap-kam.com/
2 Chome-12-6 Matsugaya, 台東区 Tokyo 111-0036, Japan

TDI Knife Shop
1 Chome-9-13 Matsugaya, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0036, Japan

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Scott808 posted:

Sakai, Osaka
Konosuke (幸之祐) Kaneshige Hamono (カネシゲ刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町東4-3-26

Suisin (酔心) Knife System (ナイフシステム)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町西1-1-28

Tadatsuna (忠綱) Nagata Hamono (永田刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区甲斐町東1-1-4

Ashi Hamono (芦刃物)
Address: 大阪府堺市堺区並松町14

Tokyo
Masamoto Tsukiji http://www.tukijimasamoto.co.jp/
Japan, 〒104-0045 Tōkyō-to, Chūō-ku, Tsukiji, 4 Chome−9, 築地4丁目9-9

Sugimoto Hamono https://www.sugimoto-hamono.com/
4 Chome-10-2 Tsukiji, Chuo, Tokyo 104-0045, Japan

Aritsugu Tsukiji http://www.aritsugu.jp/
4 Chome-9-16 Tsukiji, Chūō-ku, Tōkyō-to 104-0045, Japan

Nenohi http://www.nenohi.co.jp/
4 Chome-10-5 Tsukiji, 中央区 Tokyo 104-0045, Japan

Nihonbashi Kiya http://www.kiya-hamono.co.jp/english/

Kappabashi District https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappabashi-dori | http://www.kappabashi.or.jp/

Union Commerce http://www.unioncommerce.co.jp/
2 Chome-22-6 Nishiasakusa, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0035, Japan

Tsubaya http://tsubaya.co.jp/
3 Chome-7-3 Nishiasakusa, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0035, Japan

Kamata http://www.kap-kam.com/
2 Chome-12-6 Matsugaya, 台東区 Tokyo 111-0036, Japan

TDI Knife Shop
1 Chome-9-13 Matsugaya, Taitō-ku, Tōkyō-to 111-0036, Japan

drat. Thanks, this is perfect.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
so i have finally decided to go ahead and get a nice gyuto, 210 or so and want to know what's a good choice that has a good amount of belly on it for rock chopping?

i saw a YT video that compared the tojiro dp to the Masamoto vg and said the Masamoto had a much better belly for rocking cutting

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



BraveUlysses posted:

so i have finally decided to go ahead and get a nice gyuto, 210 or so and want to know what's a good choice that has a good amount of belly on it for rock chopping?

i saw a YT video that compared the tojiro dp to the Masamoto vg and said the Masamoto had a much better belly for rocking cutting

I love my togiharu Damascus. Brutally sharp, beautiful (though I've hosed the finish from bad sharpening), and holds an edge extremely well.

CHUCK WAS TAKEN
Aug 1, 2004
this kid has heart
I wish my knife roll were full of wusthofs instead of vg-10 anime bullshit, because it really sucks to break out the water stones when youre drunk in between 14 hour shifts

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

CHUCK WAS TAKEN posted:

I wish my knife roll were full of wusthofs instead of vg-10 anime bullshit, because it really sucks to break out the water stones when youre drunk in between 14 hour shifts
Then just use an oil stone. The knives aren't going to care.

whatupdet
Aug 13, 2004

I'm sorry John, I don't remember
I've got a bunch of salmon to filet for my first time, should I use my chef's knife or a different one?

Hauki
May 11, 2010


probably wanna use a boner

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Chef's knife will work fine.

Thoht
Aug 3, 2006

Yeah, just make sure it's good and sharp.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Hauki posted:

probably wanna use a boner

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
What's the difference between a slicer and a carver, can I do stuff with one that I can't do with the other? I read a little about it Googling, but I still don't have a good handle on it; I rarely need to slice things off the bone, but if a slicer isn't significantly better at slicing than a carving knife, maybe I should just get a carver. At any rate, I used my chef's knife to slice a brisket a couple weeks ago and it was not a great experience, so I'm looking to add something more suitable to the collection. Interested in specific recommendations as well. Budget-wise, I don't want to buy a $400+ knife, but if $100-150 will get me a better knife than $35-50, so be it.

EDIT: After some more research this seems like a silly question. I'm going to get a slicer.

guppy fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Apr 24, 2017

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

http://steamykitchen.com/43828-kamikoto-knives-review-1295-giveaway.html

quote:

According to the company via an email exchange, Kamikoto knives generally range between :siren:HRC53+/-2:siren:

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

I'm surprised they didn't just lie about their trash knives being made of cheap pot steel. :laffo:

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I'm surprised they didn't just lie about their trash knives being made of cheap pot steel. :laffo:
Or they're just stamping them out of the same 304 stainless used in most cookware. Those numbers are about what you'd expect if you filed the handle of your average stainless fry pan into a shiv.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
:siren: kamikoto master bladesmith spotted, mid forge :siren:


Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat


Got gifted five knives by a friend, who says they were gifted to her from a sushi chef. Help me out with what I can salvage here

#1 appears to be a 6.5 inch deba. It is 8mm at the spine and is single beveled. Lots of rust. Worth saving I assume? Japanese inscription chiseled in.

#2 is a 7 inch straight knife that has seen a bit of sharpening over the years. Half tang. Toss? Caddie brand.

#3 appears to be a 10 inch Henckels Four Star that has seen massive sharpening down to 9 inches. On the fence about this.

#4 is a 6 inch Japanese petty. Very rusted. Japanese inscription stamped into blade.

#5 is a 10.25 Japanese slicer. I would like to save this, but the handle has lots of damage. How hard would something like this be to fix?

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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Steve Yun posted:



Got gifted five knives by a friend, who says they were gifted to her from a sushi chef. Help me out with what I can salvage here

#1 appears to be a 6.5 inch deba. It is 8mm at the spine and is single beveled. Lots of rust. Worth saving I assume? Japanese inscription chiseled in.

#2 is a 7 inch straight knife that has seen a bit of sharpening over the years. Half tang. Toss? Caddie brand.

#3 appears to be a 10 inch Henckels Four Star that has seen massive sharpening down to 9 inches. On the fence about this.

#4 is a 6 inch Japanese petty. Very rusted. Japanese inscription stamped into blade.

#5 is a 10.25 Japanese slicer. I would like to save this, but the handle has lots of damage. How hard would something like this be to fix?


The last one is pretty easy, japanese knives are meant to be re-handled, here is a place that will put on a new handle starting at $55: https://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/pages/knife-rehandling-service

The rusted ones might be salvageable, it really depends on how deep the rust goes.

Thoht
Aug 3, 2006

Should be pretty easy to go at the rusted ones with a rust eraser or other abrasive to see how deep the rust is. And yeah, I would re-handle the slicer. I definitely wouldn't bother with the Henckels. You're gonna have to grind the poo poo out of the bolster to get it down to where it's useable and it's not even that good of a knife. The caddie knife looks like it might be nice for filleting. The petty looks like it's mostly just heavily patinaed with some scattered rusting. Hard to tell from just the photo, honestly, but I'd keep it if I liked how it felt in-hand and the rust didn't dig in too deep.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Q1: What do you guys think about the blade profile on the long slicer? It seems to have a bit of a belly, maybe from the heel being ground down. Keep as is, ask a sharpener to adjust anything?

Q2: I went at the rusted knives with a rust eraser, the red is all out, but there are black patches that aren't rubbing out. Should I leave them or sand deeper?

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 11, 2017

Thoht
Aug 3, 2006

I wouldn't worry about the black spots unless it really bothers you cosmetically.

The profile on the slicer's definitely a bit wacky at the heel end but I don't think it's too big of a deal since it's a slicer. You're pretty much only doing draw cuts with a knife like that and you have a lot of blade length to work with. It's not like a chef knife or gyuto where it's making a lot of contact with the board.

mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
I can't get over the Henckels. Like really, was this dude sharpening this poo poo every week on a belt sander or axe grinder or something? assuming the bolster is the frame of reference for where the heel of the knife originally was, jesus christ 0_0;;

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

I picked up a Victorinox paring knife. It's good and sharp and all that. It's just so light weight. No heft at all. I can't get used to it.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

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mindphlux posted:

I can't get over the Henckels. Like really, was this dude sharpening this poo poo every week on a belt sander or axe grinder or something? assuming the bolster is the frame of reference for where the heel of the knife originally was, jesus christ 0_0;;

I wouldn't be surprised if it was sharpened daily, some japanese chefs are trained that way, a sushi chef in particular would be pretty analretentive about keeping their knives very sharp, and to be fair a japanese knife with harder steel and the japanese style design can be sharpened to hell and back before it really starts having problems.

SHVPS4DETH
Mar 19, 2009

seen so much i'm going blind
and i'm brain-dead virtually





Ramrod XTreme

FogHelmut posted:

I picked up a Victorinox paring knife. It's good and sharp and all that. It's just so light weight. No heft at all. I can't get used to it.

i love mine so much that i found them on clearance at sur le table for $3/ea and i bought 3. i love the inobtrusive handle and hot drat is it sharp

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I wouldn't be surprised if it was sharpened daily, some japanese chefs are trained that way, a sushi chef in particular would be pretty analretentive about keeping their knives very sharp, and to be fair a japanese knife with harder steel and the japanese style design can be sharpened to hell and back before it really starts having problems.

Do you really think a Japanese chef, whether a sushi chef or not, would be using a heavy, soft gaijin blade like a Henckels? I'm quite dubious.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


The Midniter posted:

Do you really think a Japanese chef, whether a sushi chef or not, would be using a heavy, soft gaijin blade like a Henckels? I'm quite dubious.

to hack at frozen poo poo? Sure, I can't imagine why someone would keep a knife that far past the bolster otherwise.

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AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

The Midniter posted:

Do you really think a Japanese chef, whether a sushi chef or not, would be using a heavy, soft gaijin blade like a Henckels? I'm quite dubious.

Yes.

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