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a cool local conspiracy theory in the boston area going around now is that a serial killer is drowning young men and the police are covering up that the deaths are connected. hmm which age cohort is most likely to get super drunk and fall into a body of water (also i knew one of the guys who died. i'm not the serial killer.) i tried to explain the clustering illusion to coworkers but it didn't take.
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I always love it when anti-vaxxers bring up Autism, because it's not hard to see they don't actually give a poo poo about Autism. Autistic people are just props to them, we're a means for them to spew their ignorant bullshit all over and pretend they're fighting for something. Maybe if they did care, they'd stop spreading a throughly discredited study, or perhaps donate to Autistic charities, or stop making Autism out to be this horrific supernatural scourge they love to pretend it is. But that'd require effort, and basic empathy.
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Groovelord Neato posted:a cool local conspiracy theory in the boston area going around now is that a serial killer is drowning young men and the police are covering up that the deaths are connected. I like the national version of this, which is the supposed "smiley face killer". Same list of victims, young college age men drowning in various easily accessible bodies of water. The big connection is supposed to be that there will be a smiley face drawn nearby where the bodies were found on walls etc... except of course there is because those are really easy to draw so people draw them all the time.
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Groovelord Neato posted:a cool local conspiracy theory in the boston area going around now is that a serial killer is drowning young men and the police are covering up that the deaths are connected. This idea has been around for decades. For a long time it was the smiley-face killer because many of the locations near either where the victim fell in or was recovered had smiley-face graffiti painted somewhere. "Smiley-face graffiti" meaning some kind of stylized face, no matter how different from each other otherwise. In one case it was littered some scratch marks on a rock.
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fishmech posted:I like the national version of this, which is the supposed "smiley face killer". Same list of victims, young college age men drowning in various easily accessible bodies of water. The big connection is supposed to be that there will be a smiley face drawn nearby where the bodies were found on walls etc... except of course there is because those are really easy to draw so people draw them all the time. I remember reading about that. Didn't they go to some pretty ridiculous distances from the body to hunt down a smiley face for a connection at the time?
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Groovelord Neato posted:a cool local conspiracy theory in the boston area going around now is that a serial killer is drowning young men and the police are covering up that the deaths are connected. Sounds very similar to "The Manchester Pusher". An alleged serial killer who goes around pushing young men into the canals in Manchester. He's become a bogey man, despite police insistence that he doesn't exist. http://www.lifedeathprizes.com/real-life-crime/serial-killer-manchester-pusher-58405 The police cover up part might have started out as truth, or at least something someone read about. It's said that Scotland Yard covered up a serial killer who pushed 18 people onto the tracks in the 1970's in London for fear of panicking the public http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-10418291.html. Also, the killers all liked to eat "pizza" and collected heterosexual frogs.
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fishmech posted:Wouldn't call it "better understanding". More that they took a bunch of unrelated and only vaguely related things that used to be tracked separate, then declared all that stuff would now be called "autism spectrum". There happened to be at the same time more people bothering to take their kids to be checked out instead of just muddling through as before, but the "autism" rate jumping is entirely due to the fact that most people getting diagnosed on the "autism spectrum" now flat out did not qualify as having "autism" if you use the rules in place in say, 1987. If I understand the general trends in psychology/psychiatry the last decades right, there's a movement to putting behaviours on a few larger axes instead of having a myriad independent diagnoses. As a complete outsider to the field that sounds like it could plausibly have merit - it's not too far-fetched that different degrees of similar issues could manifest on a scale from "quirk" to "unable to function in society". There are people who have started out on the deeply dysfunctional end of autism and somehow bolted together a more socially functioning personality; I wonder what their opinion of it is. Of course there's also the ongoing calibration of what should qualify as a problem vs what's just normal human variation - but given the choice between "treat too many" and "don't help those that need it" I can see why we tend to the former. What sort of treatment do you get in a US school if you're diagnosed with something on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum, anyway? If it's just a matter of some practical adaptions (like, say, trying to avoid or at least warn about routine disruptions), then meh, that's the sort of thing a sensible school might consider for a kid even without a diagnosis.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:lol no poo poo. infowars is entertainment. the truth is still the truth That's how you end up with Alex Jones avatars.
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Joe Mama Poonana posted:I can't wait until scientists find out the "explosion" of autism in specifically the US is due to something taken from the mothers while pregnant. Psychotropic meds that entered the fetus's bloodstream? whatever other commonly used drugs that have been popularized since the 90s? perhaps something else Uhh, you mean like this? This buzzed on 4chan in 2015 when someone claiming to be a forum/imageboard/facebook shill did an expose, and said this is a story that the PR/media company they worked for was trying to bury. edit: Now that I think of it, what are the chances that I, someone who knew the the very story you describe would see your post? It's almost like there is a universal force of synchronicity or coincidence that works as a kind of magnetism on peoples activities. It reminds me of the time I was thinking about buying a Greenhorn Fjallraven light blue jacket and saw on the same day a guy wearing one in the local shop. Also the time I saw the girl falling off the dam scene in Oldboy, only to then watch a Resident Evil youtube which happened to be of Ada falling from the dam after letting go of Leon's hand, exactly like the movie I'd watched. Cardboard Box A posted:The truth is you've been conned by charlatans and instead of admitting your own failure you're doubling down. That's all? How much further down the rabbit hole do I have to go before I get me an Alex Jones avatar? I wouldn't mind if it's the BBC Alex Jones, I get fed up looking at the guy. Deep Thought fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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think of the trillions of little things that you've thought about but that didn't result in some coincidental encounter or observation
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Deep Thought posted:Uhh, you mean like this?
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I first became aware of this, about 10 years ago, the summer my oldest boy Bill Jr. died. You know that carnival that comes to town every year? Well this year it came with a ride called the Mixer. The man said "Keep your head and arms inside the mixer at all times." But Bill Jr., he was a daredevil, just like his old man. He was leaning out saying, "Hey everybody! Look at me, look at me!" POW! He was decapitated. They found his head over by the snowcone concession. A few days after that, I open up the mail and there's a pamphlet in there, from Pueblo, Colorado. And it's addressed to Bill Jr. And it's entitled, "Do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?" Now Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large U.S. city with a big underground homosexual population - Des Moines, Iowa, perfect example. Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart. You can't build on it, you can't grow anything in it. The government says it's due to poor farming. But I know what's really going on, Stuart. I know it's the queers. They're in it with the aliens. They're building landing strips for gay Martians. I swear to God. You know what Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other people, here in the
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QuarkJets posted:think of the trillions of little things that you've thought about but that didn't result in some coincidental encounter or observation Even little things that register mentally can raise the chances of an encounter, that seems like one of the principles behind TV advertising. Jack Gladney posted:A lot of people don't realize what's really goin' on. They view life as a bunch of unconnected incidents and things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. Give you an example, show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, "plate," or "shrimp," or "plate of shrimp" out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness. This quote is pretty apt, but how sure can someone be that aptness isn't coincidental knowledge seeping though a unified cosmic unconsciousness, making it seem like a quote derived entirely from having good taste in cult movies? Deep Thought fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Jungian craziness is so refreshing after endless pages of Jonesian craziness. Thanks, Deep Thought.Deep Thought posted:Even little things that register mentally can raise the chances of an encounter, that seems like one of the principles behind TV advertising. It's just priming, friend. It doesn't make the encounters more likely, it makes you more likely to notice them. "You aren't a perfectly rational outside observer" is one of the key insights most conspiracy theorists lack, probably second in importance only to "there isn't an evil group in charge of things, there's nobody in charge of things."
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Jack Gladney posted:I first became aware of this, about 10 years ago, the summer my oldest boy Trailer park
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Computer viking posted:What sort of treatment do you get in a US school if you're diagnosed with something on the high-functioning end of the autism spectrum, anyway? If it's just a matter of some practical adaptions (like, say, trying to avoid or at least warn about routine disruptions), then meh, that's the sort of thing a sensible school might consider for a kid even without a diagnosis. US schools are managed at the local level, so the actual treatment and support you get is going to vary wildly based on the politics/funding/insanity of the individual district. There are some federal and state level requirements, but its still reliant on local groups to implement them. I assume in places like Detroit that can't even maintain functional buildings you get nothing. Here (Boston) any child with a diagnosis will get an IEP (individualized education plan) which outlines what sort of services and accommodations a student receives. It's developed by the school, specialists, and parents and gets reviewed every year. Basically it makes it clear what sort of things the student needs to thrive and how they will receive them so everyone knows what is going on. I believe that students also get support for diagnosis/treatment, so if you are a family that couldn't generally afford the proper treatment or support for a child with, say, autism, you get those services through the school network of specialists, which is a pretty big deal because it means that kids won't get blocked from receiving assistance just because their family can't afford to see enough specialists to get a diagnoses.
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Computer viking posted:If I understand the general trends in psychology/psychiatry the last decades right, there's a movement to putting behaviours on a few larger axes instead of having a myriad independent diagnoses. As a complete outsider to the field that sounds like it could plausibly have merit - it's not too far-fetched that different degrees of similar issues could manifest on a scale from "quirk" to "unable to function in society". There are people who have started out on the deeply dysfunctional end of autism and somehow bolted together a more socially functioning personality; I wonder what their opinion of it is. Yeah to be clear, it's not bad on its own that they decided they were going to try to start tracking these things on spectrums of possibly related diagnoses. It's just bad because doing so also means the hysterical idiot contingent can hoot and holler about how there's now an epidemic so it must have been caused by whatever random thing they hate. Maybe the way to head the latter part off at the pass would have been to come up with a whole new name for the spectrum they created.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i knew one of the guys who died. i'm not the serial killer. pretty sure that's what the killer would say
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Cardboard Box A posted:The truth is you've been conned by charlatans and instead of admitting your own failure you're doubling down. the real charlatans are the legacy corporate media who are toeing the deep state party line and youre being conned by them
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the real charlatans are the legacy corporate media who are toeing the deep state party line and youre being conned by them Please tell us who the deep state is in your own words.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the real charlatans are the legacy corporate media who are toeing the deep state party line and youre being conned by them Your word salad could use more dressing.
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Whats with the growing number of maniacs, mostly young people, defending "flat earth theory" on the internet? What the gently caress is going on? Some guy I know recently turned flat-earther and was just now posting videos PROVING that the ISS is a fake. And Ive been seeing hundreds of facebook pages and groups of all places and languages about this lunacy Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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What do flat earthers say about the easily observable universe through telescopes and even binoculars that show how everything moves and that just about everything else out there is a sphere and everything moves in orbital patterns? Or do they just not say anything? Or even how do they explain the existence of something as fundamental as a horizon? It seems like such an easy thing to disprove. I don't get it.
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GutBomb posted:What do flat earthers say about the easily observable universe through telescopes and even binoculars that show how everything moves and that just about everything else out there is a sphere and everything moves in orbital patterns? Or do they just not say anything? They have bullshit-math/pseudo-scientific explanations for this kind of stuff: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Ships+appear+to+sink+as+they+recede+past+the+horizon And what they cant explain (like the ISS), they just deny
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Elias_Maluco posted:Whats with the growing number of maniacs, mostly young people, defending "flat earth theory" on the internet? A bunch of people thought it would be funny or make a philosophical point to start pretending the earth is flat, and come up with "proof" that looks legit on a first glance though falls apart if you really dig into it. A bunch more idiots, who weren't in on the joke, saw this happen and thought the people were serious and the Earth must actually be flat - after all look at all this proof! And then those idiots tell more idiots about it and it starts hauling in the regular conspiracy theory crowd, who believe dumb crap all the time anyway.
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fishmech posted:A bunch of people thought it would be funny or make a philosophical point to start pretending the earth is flat, and come up with "proof" that looks legit on a first glance though falls apart if you really dig into it. First time I saw these new flat-earthers, that's what I got out of it, that it was some kind of joke and/or though experiment. Now I really dont know if it ever was. Do you have any sources about the people who started this madness?
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fishmech posted:Yeah to be clear, it's not bad on its own that they decided they were going to try to start tracking these things on spectrums of possibly related diagnoses. It's just bad because doing so also means the hysterical idiot contingent can hoot and holler about how there's now an epidemic so it must have been caused by whatever random thing they hate. Maybe the way to head the latter part off at the pass would have been to come up with a whole new name for the spectrum they created. This would not have any impact. Lets say they named the new spectrum "Garbllefargers", you would hear rants from Alex Jones saying "20 years ago Garblefargers did not exist, and now its a pandemic spreading like wildfire through our youth. It all started when the government *insert conspiracy nonsense here*.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the real charlatans are the legacy corporate media who are toeing the deep state party line and youre being conned by them
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:the real charlatans are the legacy corporate media who are toeing the deep state party line and youre being conned by them
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fishmech posted:Yeah to be clear, it's not bad on its own that they decided they were going to try to start tracking these things on spectrums of possibly related diagnoses. Yes. To elucidate a little more, as a clinician and researcher into some diagnostic categories, we tend to think of diagnoses as a space of a multi-dimensional multi-axial space full of symptoms, signs and behaviors. Hm, that might not have actually made things more clear. I'll see if I can explicate more clearly with some examples after work.
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In a not quite suprising combination of the catpiss thread and this thread, I found out this weekend that one of the members of my D&D group is a Rodney King truther. As in, he was the only one in the car to get "restrained" and it was totally justified because he did a "crocodile death roll" to keep from getting cuffed and those cops totally got a bad rap. All I could respond to him was "did you see the video? they were beating the poo poo out of him". His response was "i was THERE, and those were acceptable restraint tactics!!!".
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Does he play a Fighter who considers bludgeoning dudes in the face with blunt objects "restraint?" Don't answer that, I just got a new idea for my own character. His name is Sir Ellay Peadee, and he's a grapple fighter who uses a mace or hammer.
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:the catpiss thread What JUST MAKING CHILI posted:"crocodile death roll" What Edit: I mean I can figure out what crocodile death roll MEANS but still what? Like is this a thing? Are white people capable of doing it too?
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Halloween Jack posted:Smoke dog, I'm very very interested to know what you think of Marina Abramovic. shes just the go to person in Washington right now for politicians who want to feel special and spooky and reject christian values to go and practice pretend occult rituals with.
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Great Metal Jesus posted:What THOSE people can do them. They also typically do them under the reefer madness. In all seriousness, the catpiss thread describes rpg stories from people who have had the unfortunate circumstances to play with less than hygenic people who are not often good pet owners.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:shes just the go to person in Washington right now for politicians who want to feel special and spooky and reject christian values to go and practice pretend occult rituals with. I just want to tell you, in earnest, that what you think are rituals and ceremonies are not. What the real occultist like myself do, no one has ever written or spoken of in public or on the internet. You would not believe if you saw firsthand what we do in the shadows. (It's really boring)
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Dirk the Average posted:THOSE people can do them. They also typically do them under the reefer madness. Is there a link to this catpiss thread?
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WrenP-Complete posted:Is there a link to this catpiss thread? Phone posting, but it's in the traditional games subforum of games. Cat piss is in the title.
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WrenP-Complete posted:Is there a link to this catpiss thread? A good read: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3460258
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