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So did Atlus make Mishima's social link level up every time you hang out because he's just that desperate for attention, or because they knew how unpleasant it was to hang out with him and that people would definitely pick the most insulting options possible and have a hard time ranking up an actually-pretty-useful confidant? Or both?
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It's because of the mementos requirements most likely
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Apr 18, 2017 18:11
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Mishima's Social Link always levels up because Atlus had to balance the greatness of the Sun Social Link somehow. (I assume it's because they didn't want you to have to both do requests and grind relationship points.)
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Apr 18, 2017 18:11
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Captain Baal posted:I like Fog more than Battle for Everyone's Souls, come at me I'll allow this post Conquistador Wheelbarrow Harrow posted:So did Atlus make Mishima's social link level up every time you hang out because he's just that desperate for attention, or because they knew how unpleasant it was to hang out with him and that people would definitely pick the most insulting options possible and have a hard time ranking up an actually-pretty-useful confidant? imagine if they made it so you had to spend more time with Mishima than you already do 
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Apr 18, 2017 18:15
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Mishima is my friend and I didn't make fun of him even a single time. 
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Apr 18, 2017 18:16
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Mishima is my friend and I didn't make fun of him even a single time. Same... except the one time I succumb to weakness and picked the is the M for Mishima? and I wish she would step on me options. I'm sorry Mishima, please forgive this joker
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Apr 18, 2017 18:17
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Compared to most Mementos mini-bosses, the ones for Kawakami's SLink, the parents blackmailing her into sex work positively poo poo money. I took it on after Palace 3 and they were dropping 50k per confusion shakedown.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:17
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If I don't get all 10s with my contacts the first playthrough but max out my 5 stats, can maxing out all my contacts be pretty easily doable on a new game+? I haven't played a persona game in over a decade and I just finished the 3rd palace, and after looking at a walkthrough, I forgot these games require you to plan your day meticulously 
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Apr 18, 2017 18:17
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Tir McDohl posted:Quick question, just a yes or no please (feel free to add buffer in the spoiler text). I feel my bond with Sojiro has grown, I feel closer to Sojiro.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:18
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I never really worked out how Mishima's link worked; I certainly didn't alternate mementos visits and rank-ups. Does he just unlock rank ups based on the number of requests you've done, regardless of whether they came from him? edit: Vanilla Mint Ice posted:Same... except the one time I succumb to weakness and picked the is the M for Mishima? and I wish she would step on me options. I'm sorry Mishima, please forgive this joker 
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Apr 18, 2017 18:19
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Spoilers for pre-fifth Palace stuff: man, this is making me feel real bad for inevitably perma-benching Morgana as soon as Makoto learns Mediarama.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:20
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Related to above pre-fifth Palace stuff I benched Morgana the instant I got Yusuke, and never looked back.  NRVNQSR posted:I never really worked out how Mishima's link worked; I certainly didn't alternate mementos visits and rank-ups. Does he just unlock rank ups based on the number of requests you've done, regardless of whether they came from him? I think it's either a number of them, or just specific ones. It's not super clear, though I wouldn't be surprised if you needed all of them including the Confidant ones to get him to 10 because Growth 3 on everyone is nuts good. Lotus Aura fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Apr 18, 2017 18:20
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Dragonatrix posted:I think it's either a number of them, or just specific ones. It's not super clear, though I wouldn't be surprised if you needed all of them including the Confidant ones to get him to 10 because Growth 3 on everyone is nuts good. You definitely don't need all of them; I maxed his link with three or so requests unfilled, including the last one he gave me.
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tenderjerk posted:If I don't get all 10s with my contacts the first playthrough but max out my 5 stats, can maxing out all my contacts be pretty easily doable on a new game+? I haven't played a persona game in over a decade and I just finished the 3rd palace, and after looking at a walkthrough, I forgot these games require you to plan your day meticulously Absolutely. When you don't have to worry about doing stat gain activities you gain a metric shitload of freetime to spend on social links. A NG+ file should be able to max out all the links with room to spare.
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Apr 18, 2017 18:23
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I spent most of the Hawaii trip picking every option that was like, "Mishima, my dude, we're in Hawaii. Put down the goddamn phone. We can't do anything about those requests right now anyway. Just shut up about the Phan-Site god drat" Well, that, and watching sunsets with Best Girl Makoto
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Harrow posted:Spoilers for pre-fifth Palace stuff: man, this is making me feel real bad for inevitably perma-benching Morgana as soon as Makoto learns Mediarama. Makoto doesn't learn the Recarm spells just the dia/media ones.
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Dragonatrix posted:I benched Morgana the instant I got Yusuke, and never looked back. You do not need anywhere near all of them to max him out. Hell he gives you at least two after he stops being available to rank up, and I'm 99% sure none of the confidant locks are included in his gating.
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tenderjerk posted:If I don't get all 10s with my contacts the first playthrough but max out my 5 stats, can maxing out all my contacts be pretty easily doable on a new game+? I haven't played a persona game in over a decade and I just finished the 3rd palace, and after looking at a walkthrough, I forgot these games require you to plan your day meticulously Very easily. You spend a lot of time maxing your social stats and freeing that up gives you a ton of extra time to rank up confidants. Plus, you'll blow right past all the stat locks for confidants like Priestess, Empress, Hermit, Star, etc. For what it's worth, the 100% walkthrough on GameFAQs is, by its writer's own admission, not as efficient as it could be, and he still has the entire last month to just read books and play video games. If you don't really care about those and know the most efficient ways to increase your social stats, you'll probably max more confidants than you think you will in one playthrough. Neddy Seagoon posted:Makoto doesn't learn the Recarm spells just the dia/media ones. Yeah, I could see using Morgana sometimes if a fight is just going absolutely terribly for me, but otherwise I'm happy to use Revival Beads or have Joker revive people (since it's not like I can keep fighting if he goes down) instead. Harrow fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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tenderjerk posted:If I don't get all 10s with my contacts the first playthrough but max out my 5 stats, can maxing out all my contacts be pretty easily doable on a new game+? I haven't played a persona game in over a decade and I just finished the 3rd palace, and after looking at a walkthrough, I forgot these games require you to plan your day meticulously Extremely doable, especially if you have the Fortune affinity divination. Basically what I'm doing in NG+ is: Rank up if possible ELSE Raise affinity with Fortune then rank up if possible ELSE Go to Mementos/Fish/Read/Watch DVD/Train
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Makoto doesn't learn the Recarm spells just the dia/media ones. People use Recarm and not one of the billion revive items you accumulate over the course of the game?
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I hope that, if they do end up doing an enhanced version of persona 5 some day, that I will be able to (Big Spoiler) Actually convince Akechi and get him back, because the way his S Link works is already weird Wellll... There's no way that's happening. You don't just shrug off the poo poo he did. The best you could hope for is getting him to turn himself in.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Makoto doesn't learn the Recarm spells just the dia/media ones. And those are easily made up for with the poo poo you can buy from Takemi.
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Harrow posted:Well, that, and watching sunsets with Best Girl Makoto That's a strange way to spell Kawakami. realtalk: on NG+, it's gonna be a hard choice between Makoto and Hifumi for me. Beep boop.
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You don't need Recarm and it's definitely not worth benching Makoto for Morgana for when you can just have Joker slap Recarm on one of his 899992 junk persona. Morgana's not a trash member though like vanilla P4 Naoto or anything. He's not got Concentrate like Ann or Heat Up/Gun Skills like Haru or Ryuji's everything though so it's hard to find a niche for him.
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I used Ryuji/Yusuke/Makoto the whole game and I didn't have any issues.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:You don't need Recarm and it's definitely not worth benching Makoto for Morgana for when you can just have Joker slap Recarm on one of his 899992 junk persona. Or just do what I did and use both of them  (Team We-Have-Too-Much-Healing rarely died, but boss fighting might have been slower than it needed to be.)
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Mishima is my friend and I didn't make fun of him even a single time. oh my god your avatar
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Sea Sponge Run posted:I hope that, if they do end up doing an enhanced version of persona 5 some day, that I will be able to (Big Spoiler) Actually convince Akechi and get him back, because the way his S Link works is already weird God I hope not. Dude is a total monster and I'm glad he ultimately doesn't get redemption. He made horrific choices and 'saving' him would cheapen his whole character So of course it will happen and I'm going to be pissed when it does.
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I've been using Morgana for the last couple of boss fights because he has Mediarama and Makoto doesn't, and Joker has better things to do than spam heal. For dungeon crawling I like Ryuji/Yusuke/Makoto, except in Palace 4, where the large number of ice and wind weaknesses meant I went Morgana/Yusuke/Makoto instead to save some of Joker's SP. Now that I have Haru I'll probably replace Yusuke with her, though, and then once Makoto has Mediarama it's probably going to be Ryuji/Makoto/Haru for most things.
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I don't like Mishima and I'm glad the game let me poo poo on him without hurting my link.
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Night Blade posted:Wellll... I'm still trying to figure out... If Akechi really did just kill rear end in a top hat adults like he implied while he was going crazy? On one hand if he did, the adults are so lovely in this game that I can't even blame him. On the other hand, I don't think that subway driver, or all the people on the subway, deserved what they got so probably not. On the other other hand the lovely adult ratio is so high in this game maybe they did I pity Mishima. There is little sadder than once a man realizes he's just an NPC in another person's story. Not even important enough to star in his own life's story. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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Ok, now I've sort of figured out how the fortune link works and I've shaved so much time off my schedule it's not even funny. The Affinity reading doesn't guarantee a rank up, but two almost always does. You have to go back multiple nights to do it but it's a good way to focus on other links in the meantime you know will already rank up, then lay the ground work so you don't have to waste a visit on someone during a non-rank up time. I still haven't gotten much use out of the stat one since I don't think you can get more than +3 and so many activities already give that. Money reading is baller for dungeon crawling.
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Levantine posted:Ok, now I've sort of figured out how the fortune link works and I've shaved so much time off my schedule it's not even funny. The Affinity reading doesn't guarantee a rank up, but two almost always does. You have to go back multiple nights to do it but it's a good way to focus on other links in the meantime you know will already rank up, then lay the ground work so you don't have to waste a visit on someone during a non-rank up time. You can get more than 3 points per stat, the interface just frustratingly doesn't show it. A bunch of books give more by default.
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The stat one probably just adds +1 to substat gain, while the notes aren't an accurate 1:1 representation; as others have pointed out itt each note actually represents more than one "point" of gains. So like it may take 50 points of gains to get from rank 4 to 5 of Guts, and every time you do a Guts-related activity you see 1-3 notes, but those notes represent 1-2, 3-5, and 6+ points respectively, or something. It helps, it's just not as big as the amount of affinity from the affinity reading, and it's harder to see the result.
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ChrisBTY posted:I'm still trying to figure out... Palace 7 spoilers I remember that cutscene as him trying to claim he only killed bad people, and the party calling him out on it with exactly the examples you gave. But my memory's a little hazy, I think my brain was still 50% rat at the time.
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Is it just me, or do all the characters suffer horrible face deformities whenever they use Persona skills while wearing the free DLC outfits?
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Out of all the Confidants, I think Fortune is criminally underappreciated. Her abilities are an extreme timesaver, way more than it initially lets on.
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Incoming Persona gushing post: The only problem with Persona 5 is that I'm gonna have a hard time replaying Persona 3 or 4 ever again after this. Even beyond the much smoother gameplay, slick presentation, and finally not-random dungeons, I like the cast so goddamn much. Every social link character is compelling and every party member is awesome, even the mascot character. And the jokes actually land this time! (On the bright side, this does mean that when I do get the urge to replay a Persona game, it'll probably be 2, and I haven't actually played Innocent Sin yet.) Granted I'm not done yet, but I'm not really foreseeing a total quality cliff-dive in the last couple of months, so I feel pretty confident in saying that I was mega-hyped for this game and I am in no way disappointed by anything at all about it. God drat I love Persona.
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NRVNQSR posted:Palace 7 spoilers I remember that cutscene as him trying to claim he only killed bad people, and the party calling him out on it with exactly the examples you gave. But my memory's a little hazy, I think my brain was still 50% rat at the time. My thought is He didn't necessarily lie, he just thinks all adults are bad because he's loving crazy and has probably seen precious little to prove him wrong. And am I the only one confused that Cthulhu wasn't one of his personas? It would make sense and the library made that book available once you recruited him (which in no way made him suspicious as hell) ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 18, 2017 |
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