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mormonpartyboat posted:wall-e naively assumed only stuff could be garbage Yeah, humans would never want to get off that ship and build a new planet
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:alex jones is the greatest human thats right
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Coolguye posted:even if you ignore all deaths under 4 years old the average person is still living longer and having more productive years than they were in 1950. in 1950 cancer was a death sentence and there was no way to see it coming, nowadays there's entire classes of tumors that are considered 'garden variety' because we have a good handle on them. also, hip replacements and other poo poo keep people out of rocking chairs for years more. http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds Life expectancy in the US is falling.
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wall-e but its a google crawler on one of the last operating computer nodes, digging through our posts long after we're dead, seeking the perfectly optimized search
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every day as i sit in traffic on route 1 headed north on the way to work, i wonder if i'll see the missile that will obliterate everything around me in nuclear hellfire
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trump speaking at snap-on https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/854415988984557569
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Hamelekim posted:Countless silicon valley people are putting money into life extension. They all want to live forever ruling over a technological utopia for themselves, and screw everyone else. i can't wait for all the SV people to get cancer from trying those life extension treatments before they're proven save only to eat vegan in an attempt to cure it and die early
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canada sucks Stop swooning over Justin Trudeau. The man is a disaster for the planet
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deathbysnusnu posted:Curing "aging" would probably increase life expectancy to some extent, but everything that eventually kills you also tends to kill people even in their 40s. Even with maximum risk factor reduction, people still die from the usual's because they're probabilistic things that quickly turn catastrophic. For instance, most fatal heart attacks don't start as large plaques, they're a tearing of small plaques even children can have that leads to a massive intrinsic clotting cascade that kills you. Every day on earth is a day your left main coronary can decide to get a booboo and end you. The average lifespan with indefinite lifespans is around 5000 years. So most people would like 5000 years before some accident, murder, suicide, etc... That's a pretty good chunk of time, and who knows what happens in 5000 years.
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Flavius Belisarius posted:*some chili ends up in my chest hair, dripping off my nipple as I grin and chew with my mouth open* Give him his kids back. Hell, give him everybody's kids.
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Citizen Tayne posted:That's a good gain but saying "IMMORTALITY IS ALMOST HERE, SEE?" is dumb. Oh I definitely don't disagree there
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mormonpartyboat posted:wall-e but its a google crawler on one of the last operating computer nodes, digging through our posts long after we're dead, seeking the perfectly optimized search "smooth nudes"
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Citizen Tayne posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds Cyber goons in 2867 will be arguing about how increased life expectancy isn't a fair measure of progress because most people live to 40 but the statistic is dragged upward by neo-silicon valley's immortals living to their 900's.
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Hamelekim posted:Countless silicon valley people are putting money into life extension. They all want to live forever ruling over a technological utopia for themselves, and screw everyone else. By this logic it's also possible to get flying unicorns if you pump enough money into it.
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mannerup posted:trump speaking at snap-on https://twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/854414636778745857
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Gringostar posted:i can't wait for all the SV people to get cancer from trying those life extension treatments before they're proven save only to eat vegan in an attempt to cure it and die early Or maybe it'll turn them into literal vampires who burst into flame with UV exposure
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Citizen Tayne posted:The internet has been around in research form since the sixties. The World Wide Web is a document exchange protocol. It is an evolution of previous ideas and didn't spring into existence out of nowhere in 1991. so what, in your opinion, isn't a refinement? what's an entire original thing that didnt spring out of existing ideas?
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so what's trump's actual EO about 'buy american' because he can't literally make people do that
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Iron Crowned posted:Or maybe it'll turn them into literal vampires who burst into flame with UV exposure this is also acceptable
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Citizen Tayne posted:You were discussing communications technology so that's what I used. and precisely the same thing is true of aging related research, dude. the time trajectory is pretty similar, matter of fact. people living longer actually goes directly to the heart of making life better, as well. we literally just had a derail in this thread yesterday over how education is good but it's so specialized nowadays that it's really difficult to get perspective on something. slowing the aging process down so a 100 year old looks like a modern-day 50 year old would provide ample time to get educated to the point where we could actually make some serious and informed differences. it's ridiculous to expect someone go out and learn stuff until they are 35 nowadays when they can expect to start breaking down at 55. if they won't break down until 100 then staying in school until you're 35 just learning like crazy becomes practical. deathbysnusnu posted:Curing "aging" would probably increase life expectancy to some extent, but everything that eventually kills you also tends to kill people even in their 40s. Even with maximum risk factor reduction, people still die from the usual's because they're probabilistic things that quickly turn catastrophic. For instance, most fatal heart attacks don't start as large plaques, they're a tearing of small plaques even children can have that leads to a massive intrinsic clotting cascade that kills you. Every day on earth is a day your left main coronary can decide to get a booboo and end you. certainly, catastrophic events will still happen, and you're correct that no matter how many dice you roll, they can eventually all come up as 1 and you're out of luck. but it's much more likely you'll roll snake eyes than it is to roll straight 1s from a yahtzee can.
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mormonpartyboat posted:wall-e but its a google crawler on one of the last operating computer nodes, digging through our posts long after we're dead, seeking the perfectly optimized search also nothing else happens and he doesnt find love or humans and the computer eventually segfaults trying to do an update of realplayer and hangs on the "DO YOU WANT TO BOOT TO SAFE MODE" screen until the power finally cuts
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Citizen Tayne posted:By this logic it's also possible to get flying unicorns if you pump enough money into it. Incorrect. This is science, and aging is pretty well understood. It's a matter of spending the money to do the research to figure out the solution to the problems, it's not chasing unicorns. It just takes money and time.
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the internet has existed since humans entered into the symbolic and recognized one another as discrete beings. everything else has just been refinement of these communication protocols. we are basically cave man qed
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Citizen Tayne posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds Only in the last quarter iirc, but for the first time in like 20 years. White mortality has also skyrocketed due to drug addictions
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ymgve posted:so what, in your opinion, isn't a refinement? what's an entire original thing that didnt spring out of existing ideas? cheese
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Gringostar posted:this is also acceptable I'll be inventing a wood's glass light cannon just for that 
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sexpig by night posted:so what's trump's actual EO about 'buy american' because he can't literally make people do that I think it's about having the US Government give preference to US vendors/manufacturers in the procurement process.
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spending money on NASA in thought only its the thought that counts right 
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change my name posted:cheese we have been eating food since our inception. cheese is just a refinement of the class of things known as food. i am a smart person.
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mormonpartyboat posted:wall-e naively assumed only stuff could be garbage 
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Citizen Tayne posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds "for the first time in decades", and it explicitly notes the opioid epidemic as one of the primary causes - a man-made problem, not a naturalistic one. quote:The epidemic of prescription opioid painkillers and heroin abuse is probably fueling the increase in unintentional injuries, Arun Hendi, a demographer at Duke University, wrote in an email. The rise in drug abuse and suicide could be due to economic factors causing despair. it stuns me that people will take what is pretty astoundingly good trends and dig deep to find the gloom in it sometimes.
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Hamelekim posted:Incorrect. It's not very well understood
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alsoCitizen Tayne posted:We have the tools now to massively reduce automobile fatalities, but instead we point at Uber and say "the robot cars will make everything real safe!" because that takes no effort on our part what the gently caress are you talking about, what are these tools that will automatically make everything safer are you talking about everyone buying newer cars because lol, that has nothing to do with "effort" and everything to do with "new cars are expensive and wages are loving nonexistent"
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mannerup posted:trump speaking at snap-on trump still waiting on that check from angela merkel
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