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get that OUT of my face posted:exactly, so why did these idiots do that? No bad tactics, only bad targets
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get that OUT of my face posted:exactly, so why did these idiots do that? Because they're pieces of poo poo
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The more nuanced answer is that they're socially sheltered and got swept up in the cargo cult version of direct action that says being a piece of poo poo is progressive and effective, and college is the only place where you can get enough of this variety of naive shithead together to exist as a group. From what I've seen, after college they either quickly burn out from the constant toxicity and competitive social structure, they shrink into being a twitter bot with 3 followers, or they get the dubious honor of being a punching bag like arthur chu.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, make a a mistake, get thrown out and ostracized. I like instersectionality alot. the issue is these people arn't practicing it. its just the zealot bullshit so they can feel awsome. the alt right does the same poo poo. Intersectionality means that you must keep cutting your platform into ever smaller bits, which do not interact with each other and are individually too small to affect anything at all, now sit down, shut the gently caress up and listen.
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Intersectionality is a series of people telling other people to educate themselves about what intersectionality is while the impoverished gay black trans woman starves in the street without anyone noticing because she was never invited to the conversation
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"It's not my job to educate you!" shouted the person who just entered the conversation uninvited in order to tell strangers what to think.
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And if we go further back in time, we can look at the "spoons" exhibit and also learn about the classic dongle incident.
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mysterious frankie posted:"It's not my job to educate you!" shouted the person who just entered the conversation uninvited in order to tell strangers what to think. That clown Suey Park pulled that poo poo when given the opportunity to explain the point she was making in an interview after the guy said he wasn't minimalising her opinions or saying she didn't have a right to them but that her saying all of this after misunderstanding satire made it a stupid opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNK-e6nnFGY&t=290s She kicked up a stink in response to a tweet from @StephenColbert(which, while verified, wasn't his personal account or one controlled by the show, so it might have been a network run thing?) during the Redskins stuff that was in the news a couple of years.  She also said, when asked what she wanted to achieve with #cancelcolbert, that it was a loaded question and seemed like she was on the defensive from the start. This segment came out of the whole stink which was pretty good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBPgXjkfBXM
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lohli posted:That clown Suey Park pulled that poo poo when given the opportunity to explain the point she was making in an interview after the guy said he wasn't minimalising her opinions or saying she didn't have a right to them but that her saying all of this after misunderstanding satire made it a stupid opinion. That nonsense has got to stop. It implicitly is your job to educate people if you enter into discussions with them under the guise of expertise and have arguments for why they should change their conduct that are stronger than "Because you're making me feel bad." Also don't talk to Josh Zepp. He ironically calls himself "An elite". What's wrong with that Australian boy that he thinks it's good to call himself an elite?
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Guy Goodbody posted:No bad tactics, only bad targets ah movie bob. he is such a sad fucker. lohli posted:That clown Suey Park pulled that poo poo when given the opportunity to explain the point she was making in an interview after the guy said he wasn't minimalising her opinions or saying she didn't have a right to them but that her saying all of this after misunderstanding satire made it a stupid opinion. mysterious frankie posted:That nonsense has got to stop. It implicitly is your job to educate people if you enter into discussions with them under the guise of expertise and have arguments for why they should change their conduct that are stronger than "Because you're making me feel bad." this too. they dont care about educating people. its about Feeling good and superior and assuaging guilt they feel for poo poo thats out of their control or that their ancestor did. the thing is i agree with their core ideals, its just full of weird right wing rheotric styles now and weird zealot poo poo. steinrokkan posted:Intersectionality means that you must keep cutting your platform into ever smaller bits, which do not interact with each other and are individually too small to affect anything at all, now sit down, shut the gently caress up and listen. true. i just mean i like social justice i just want to combine it with genuin economic justice. these people think they can just bully people into being "progressive" or if they rewrite langugage and go full newspeak with all media with only their ideals we would be a utopia. they honest to god want the society from demolition man.
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SJWs are hiding something by an largequote:People who show anger over moral issues not directly affecting them may actually be emoting in an effort to quell their own guilt, be it consciously or unconsciously, according to a new study. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Study-Expressing-moral-outrage-is-largely-just-10969478.php
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Byolante posted:SJWs are hiding something by an large sounds about right.
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Byolante posted:SJWs are hiding something by an large What is Projection?
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:What is Projection? Projection-jection, what's your objection? Intersecting gays and races and causes...
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Byolante posted:SJWs are hiding something by an large That's important, because there's a Reason.com article linked there, that tries to take it to the weird conclusion that all altruism is guilt-induced (it's a libertarian site), which isn't supported, nor likely. Essentially they just showed projection exists, which is probably relevant to a lot of people this thread looks at. But it's difficult to say what is 'real' (empathy motivated) or 'fake' (self-serving) outrage, without really being able to go through someone's head, and see the reasons why. You can't even do that for yourself reliably. Maybe the problem is relying on anger in the first place, or relying on anger alone, to motivate change. It seems powerful, but it's unreliable.
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Control Volume posted:Intersectionality is a series of people telling other people to educate themselves about what intersectionality is while the impoverished gay black trans woman starves in the street without anyone noticing because she was never invited to the conversation goddamn this sums it up. lohli posted:That clown Suey Park pulled that poo poo when given the opportunity to explain the point she was making in an interview after the guy said he wasn't minimalising her opinions or saying she didn't have a right to them but that her saying all of this after misunderstanding satire made it a stupid opinion. The problem I notice is that a lot of these people do in fact come from upper class, 1 percent backgrounds. It feels like often times they can't grasp what it's like to be poor or those sorts of things.
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FuzzySkinner posted:goddamn this sums it up. this. but also alot of them come from conservative or right wing christian house holds. so they abandon the politics hard but keep the cutural memes.
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rudatron posted:Note that the original study demonstrated an increase in anger towards an involved third party caused by guilt, not that anger at injustice is 'largely' a result of maintaining a moral identity. lol yeah I just read this mind-blowing study that claims anything other than the pursuit of relentless self-satisfaction is actually just the pursuit of relentless self-satisfaction in disguise? maybe ayn rand was right...* (*: NOTE the person who thinks this is DEFINITELY not a psychotic right wing lunatic, but is instead mocking SJWs out of a genuine moral outrage on behalf of the poor blacks or whoever, which is different from the moral outrage SJWs express for the poor blacks or whoever, because it is pure and real)
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The Dems better not still be obsessing over this poo poo in November 2018, the BOMBSHELL Russia scandal has been imminent every day for months now. It's seriously dumber than Benghazi at this point. https://twitter.com/hspaulds/status/854503399102001152
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MaxxBot posted:The Dems better not still be obsessing over this poo poo in November 2018, the BOMBSHELL Russia scandal has been imminent every day for months now. It's seriously dumber than Benghazi at this point. Meanwhile Trump is signing laws behind the "blue wall" promising to "Hire American, Buy American" and trying to strengthen his base there, possibly even expand it. goddamn. What a stupid bunch of motherfuckers.
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if trump actually pissing off russia vis-a-vis syria doesn't stop the democratic and media elite from playing up a nonexistent connection between the two, nothing will ossoff is doing better than expected in that special election because the dems paid attention to it and didn't use the russia poo poo as much on the campaign. imagine if they did that for James Thompson or will actually do it for Jon Quist in Montana (probably not as they're both more populist)
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MaxxBot posted:The Dems better not still be obsessing over this poo poo in November 2018, the BOMBSHELL Russia scandal has been imminent every day for months now. It's seriously dumber than Benghazi at this point. lol
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MikeCrotch posted:I'm pretty sure Louise Mensch loves Trump? She's a former Tory right wing troll so I don't think she's a Hillary fan. I think she's just flinging poo poo at everyone for attention. You need to get caught up, she's a hero to Hillary cultists now for denouncing Trump as a Russian spy She also thinks everyone else is a Russian spy and is obviously loving crazy but for now's not the time for being selective about one's champions I guess
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Office Surprise Store posted:it's really insanely cool how loving mccarthyism has become a leading platform for the left History repeats.
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Office Surprise Store posted:it's really insanely cool how loving mccarthyism has become a leading platform for the left Your first mistake was thinking the Democrats are left wing
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https://twitter.com/problematic/status/854423259504287744 So this is certainly a thing now. But really guys. I don't understand how Trump won. It's a mystery.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/problematic/status/854423259504287744 Without any further context I am going to guess that the guy needing to cut his dreads was not a fashion model but somebody in the food service industry, therefore needing to cut them for reasons other than he is black, namely hygine?
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Byolante posted:SJWs are hiding something by an large hmmmmm what does that say about this thread
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Byolante posted:Without any further context I am going to guess that the guy needing to cut his dreads was not a fashion model but somebody in the food service industry, therefore needing to cut them for reasons other than he is black, namely hygine? I don't think that's unreasonable either. Like If I rocked a mullet to the same sort of job, and was allowed? Then yeah, that policy would be lovely and racist. But it it's a thing across the board? Yeah, that happens at jobs. Sometimes they have a certain code. The problem with this is culture, fashion, music and what have you are such a bizarre thing in regards to ownership. I mean by definition, us whites should have been offended when Snoop Dogg and Puff Daddy were rocking Ralph Lauren back in the day. But really...no one cared. (and why the gently caress should we? it's a free country. wear whatever the gently caress you want). It just seems to be a lot of poo poo rich people talk about. I mean poor people don't give a poo poo for the most part. They're far too worried about putting food on the tables then arguing about this sort of crap. I'm just confused as to why this whole "woke' movement is such a major fad now, and why it's not gone away.
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FuzzySkinner posted:I don't think that's unreasonable either. Like If I rocked a mullet to the same sort of job, and was allowed? Then yeah, that policy would be lovely and racist. some cynics have said its like psudo replacement for a hardline religion to lib and lefties since alot of them tend to be on the agnostic/atheist/antithiest side to deal with various guilt. some are doing it for money or to feel special, others are weird zealots or wannabe elitists. i think a decent amount a decent people who get caught up and then feel trapped . they want to be good and progressive and non racist but the people considered are truly "sinless" shrinks everyday and alot of these people hate each other and try to either gently caress each other over or out victim each other.
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http://www.thestranger.com/features...tifies-as-black interesting. its a genuine activist trying to understand the end result of this bullshit. also some bob poo poo.   bob is pissed that people are calling Clinton a poo poo candidate and also jerking himself off to how elite he is. his poo poo reads like dumber version of andrew ryans monologues(a game he will never play because EVIL FPS) but dumber and more faux liberalism Dapper_Swindler has issued a correction as of 04:02 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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There are a subset of people who just love pointless authoritarianism and I will never understand it. Like with the fundie Christians most are happy just practicing their religion, but a lot also insist on having the political realm totally endorse every aspect of their religion. Then you have another subset who aren't happy with those two things and absolutely must go out of their way to make the lives of individual gays and atheists as miserable as humanly possible to satisfy their bizarre authoritarian urges, those people are scum. The mega-woke people like that girl who was physically assaulting some 100lbs white dude for having dreads would be the flipside of that third group.
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MaxxBot posted:There are a subset of people who just love pointless authoritarianism and I will never understand it. Like with the fundie Christians most are happy just practicing their religion, but a lot also insist on having the political realm totally endorse every aspect of their religion. Then you have another subset who aren't happy with those two things and absolutely must go out of their way to make the lives of individual gays and atheists as miserable as humanly possible to satisfy their bizarre authoritarian urges, those people are scum. The mega-woke people like that girl who was physically assaulting some 100lbs white dude for having dreads would be the flipside of that third group. I still keep thinking of what Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman and others have said in regards to their being two subsets of the "left" (as would be the right). There's the "libertarian" left, of which I imagine most people would shrug their shoulders at a great deal of stuff, and then there's the "authoritarian/conservative" left which we see a lot of today. If we're doing this on a micro level? Perhaps the attitudes of people like Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton on various forms of media in the past might be accurate in that regard. Both of whom kinda stood hand in hand with fundies to prevent heavy metal albums and violent video games from being "things" because of "THE CHILDREN!"
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Dapper_Swindler posted:http://www.thestranger.com/features...tifies-as-black https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEJPNiMCiPA This is all that needs to be posted. It is just incredibly thick headed and obtuse though. Bob seems to be like some sort of pseudo member of the aristocracy and doesn't understand how the electoral college works. HRC could have easily...easily been POTUS had she actually even tried to campaign in the "Blue wall" states that she thought were a sure thing. My other thought is...to just flat out assume "sexism" for the Trump side is also idiotic. I've chatted with conservatives, trump supporters and what have you (ie, my own father, others) about figures like Sarah Palin, KellyAnne Conway, Condi Rice, Margaret Thatcher, Nikki Haley and Ann Coulter. All of which are women, all of which were met with high praise, and implications that they would support them had they ran for public office. Hell I've even seen praise for Ivanka Trump and her politics are actually pretty "left" leaning IIRC. I think the country is ready for a female president, hell it might actually be from the right. I just don't think that people in this country liked Hillary for how she acted personally.
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I saw a theory that much of the apathy about Hillary being a woman, especially from younger women, was because many of them didn't believe being a woman candidate was a significant hurdle or a major achievement in and of itself. Ironically the success of feminism may have undercut Hillary's appeals to feminism.
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