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ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Out of curiosity, is the Stein's;Gate movie any good?

It was a weird way to follow the show. Watch it if you're curious, but don't expect much.

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vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up
I've been putting off Legend of the Galactic Heroes for years cause who has time for 100+ episode anime?

I figured out a strategy for it though. Just one episode a day. That's all I have to worry about. All it takes is 22 minutes. About 6 episodes in I'm hooked and marathoned my way up to episode 15.

Now 100+ episodes doesn't seem like enough. I'm sad cause I know once I'm done there's not going to be anything else like it.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

It goes by fast. Even 4 episodes a week on my last rewatch it was over before i knew it

Crimson Chin
Aug 16, 2005

mister happy turtle is a happy turtle
Just finished ERASED. Very good show. Anything else of the same ilk? Looking for some crime/drama/mystery anime that are as similarly tight as ERASED. The 12 episodes were paced really well and the show did not overstay its welcome.

smenj
Oct 10, 2012

Crimson Chin posted:

Just finished ERASED. Very good show. Anything else of the same ilk? Looking for some crime/drama/mystery anime that are as similarly tight as ERASED. The 12 episodes were paced really well and the show did not overstay its welcome.

I'm struggling to think of many shows I've seen that are good and fall into the exact same niche, but there's a few shows, for example, Hyouka and Steins;Gate, which are very good and have great mysteries (though Hyouka has no crime and some very laid-back pacing, and Steins;Gate takes a couple of episodes to really get going). From The New World is a great suspenseful mystery/drama, but is much more horror-focused than something like ERASED. Probably the best thing I can think of is one of Satoshi Kon's films - Perfect Blue. It's a good horror/mystery film, and only around 90 minutes long. Be warned though that it very much deserves its 18 rating, if that happens to matter to you.

There's also Monster, which is right in the niche you're going for but is like ~70 episodes long, and I've only read the manga so I can't speak to the show's pacing. Either way, all the shows I mentioned are good so if they catch your interest they're probably worth trying even if it's not exactly what you were after.

smenj fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 15, 2017

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

smenj posted:

There's also Monster, which is right in the niche you're going for but is like ~70 episodes long, and I've only read the manga so I can't speak to the show's pacing. Either way, all the shows I mentioned are good so if they catch your interest they're probably worth trying even if it's not exactly what you were after.

It's 74 episodes of the best mystery storytelling out there. If you have any interest in a focused mystery thriller, Monster is your best bet.

Beyond that, it's iffy. Steins;Gate sorta fits, as it's a focused story with a unique air of mystery, but it isn't a proper mystery like Erased. I guess you could try Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, but that's heavily horror-centric, especially the first season. Baccano! also kinda works, but a completely different style. It's also a solid rec on its own merit though.

More than that I'm struggling to think of good things to follow up with. I'll make a follow up post if I think of anything.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

mouryo no hako, the perfect insider

if you want to stretch the subject you can try stuff like paranoia agent, hyouka, lain, ghost hound, shinsekai yori etc etc

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

ViggyNash posted:

It's 74 episodes of the best mystery storytelling out there. If you have any interest in a focused mystery thriller, Monster is your best bet.

poo poo, I'd forgotten about Monster. It's a shame we don't see low-key, long-form storytelling like that these days.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

The Skull Man, maybe?

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Sorry, misread the question. Don't suggest The Skull Man, but do suggest Serial Experiments Lain

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

Mushishi, maybe kind of?

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

StandardVC10 posted:

Mushishi, maybe kind of?

I tried to answer this one but I don't consider Evangelion depressing and Madoka is bittersweet at best. :v:

Mushishi is probably a good answer, regardless.

Knorth
Aug 19, 2014

Buglord
Shinsekai yori?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

SaiKano/She the Ultimate Weapon.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

Mawaru Penguindrum lures you in looking happy and carefree, then closes the trap by the mid-series point and takes you on a depressing ride to the bottom.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I mean if we're going the Mawaru Penguindrum route, you might as go with Revolutionary Girl Utena as well. That gets plenty dark plenty of times.

E: Now and Then, Here and There has a fantastical setting but most of its depressing content is from pretty real world, war is hell, child soldiers dying left and right, etc., so I dunno if that would work.

And just becomes it's been on my mind constantly the last couple of weeks, she should also play Nier: Automata if given the chance :buddy:

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Apr 18, 2017

Mentat Radnor
Apr 24, 2008

~Water flowers every day~

ninjewtsu posted:

animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way?

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

Seconding Nate's rec of Now and Then, Here and There.

Also maybe Kino's Journey? It's episodic, but a few of the episodes are pretty soul-crushing.


GorfZaplen posted:

Sorry, misread the question. Don't suggest The Skull Man, but do suggest Serial Experiments Lain

Lain is one of the best 1-cour shows ever made and everyone should watch it. I personally didn't find it depressing though. Mind-bending, creepy, fascinating, yes.

Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Sakurazuka posted:

SaiKano/She the Ultimate Weapon.

For when only the most brutally bittersweet animes will suffice.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Just avoid the garbage rear end ova / sequel series.

If trashy is okay: elfen lied, shiki, fate zero

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

Gakkou Gurashi should be pretty good for that, if you tell them to make sure to finish the first episode.

I'll also second Penguindrum as a show that manages to both be super dark/depressing, yet bizarrely cheerful and upbeat at the same time.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Oh duh Fate/Zero is probably a slam dunk, if she like Madoka.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
same but instead of Fate / Zero, Psycho-Pass

also seconding Shin Sekai Yori

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

AnoHito posted:

Gakkou Gurashi should be pretty good for that, if you tell them to make sure to finish the first episode.

I'll also second Penguindrum as a show that manages to both be super dark/depressing, yet bizarrely cheerful and upbeat at the same time.

No, by the midpoint of the show it just starts peeling back layers that taint anything and everything happy or pleasant you've seen up until then with some horrifying new facet you were not made aware of until then. Once it starts, there is no getting off that ride until it comes to a complete stop at the bottom.

Pavlov
Oct 21, 2012

I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

Nate RFB posted:

E: Now and Then, Here and There has a fantastical setting but most of its depressing content is from pretty real world, war is hell, child soldiers dying left and right, etc., so I dunno if that would work.

Also all the rape. Probably should mention that too.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Space Runaway Ideon

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

"From the New World" fits the bill.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Honestly SaiKano is one of those shows I thought was really good when I first watched it in high school, but in retrospect was just tragedy porn. It was sort of like the tragedy version of a horror movie that relies on jump scares. I'm not sure if any of the other people recommending it also watched it many years ago like me (I imagine some might have, given when it came out), but I would take that into account.

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

DamnGlitch posted:

If trashy is okay: elfen lied, shiki, fate zero

WOWOWOAH.

Lets not do something so rash as putting Shiki and Fate/Zero in the same garbage heap as Elfen Lied now. Both are absolutely solid recs for the OP and incredible shows in their own right.

I think the best recommendations would be Texhnolyze, Serial Experiments Lain, From The New World and Casshern Sins. Depressing existentialism galore.

Haibane Renmei also kind of fits in there, but it's a very calm, lighthearted show for the most part. It forms a pseduo-trilogy with Texhnolyze and Serial Experiments Lain so it's worth watching for that reason if nothing.

Ytlaya posted:

Honestly SaiKano is one of those shows I thought was really good when I first watched it in high school, but in retrospect was just tragedy porn. It was sort of like the tragedy version of a horror movie that relies on jump scares. I'm not sure if any of the other people recommending it also watched it many years ago like me (I imagine some might have, given when it came out), but I would take that into account.

How would you compare it to Shiki? As far as a classic tragedy goes, imo Shiki is one of the best I've seen.

ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Apr 19, 2017

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
i'm gonna put fate/zero in the same heap as elfen lied :twisted:

ViggyNash
Oct 9, 2012

The Colonel posted:

i'm gonna put fate/zero in the same heap as elfen lied :twisted:

Come at me bastard, I got anti-mage guns and a sick black trenchcoat. :c00lbert:

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
Grave of the Fireflies.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

^^^ I may catch some flak for this, but I'm also not a huge fan of Grave of the Fireflies for some of the same reasons I don't really like SaiKano. It's definitely executed very well, though, and at least it's referring to a real event so there's some educational value in teaching people how terrible war can be for civilians. But I feel like it also does the "tragedy version of jump scares" thing. It isn't really hard to make an audience feel sad if you create some nice characters (especially if they're children) and then have them die tragic deaths.

ViggyNash posted:

How would you compare it to Shiki? As far as a classic tragedy goes, imo Shiki is one of the best I've seen.

I liked Shiki more. Shiki had some serious pacing issues and kinda trashy elements, but its core plot and some of the characters were pretty interesting. SaiKano is a bunch of depressing poo poo happening constantly. Like, it's a tragedy in the same way a story about a guy whose family are all killed in a car wreck is a tragedy; it's really sad but not in an interesting way.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 19, 2017

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

Ytlaya posted:

Honestly SaiKano is one of those shows I thought was really good when I first watched it in high school, but in retrospect was just tragedy porn. It was sort of like the tragedy version of a horror movie that relies on jump scares. I'm not sure if any of the other people recommending it also watched it many years ago like me (I imagine some might have, given when it came out), but I would take that into account.

I felt the same way. I first watched it in college and decided to get the DVDs when I saw them on sale years later. The rewatch was definitely not as good, but it still punched me in the gut.

The OVA mini series is just the same story told with different characters. I know it was trying to pull the whole parallel with the original story angle, but kind of falls flat since we never really see or hear of the OG weapon girl in the original series.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Post was made in order of decreasing trashiness, FWIW.

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

Seconding Casshern Sins, and he'll, putting Skull Man back on the table

The Colonel
Jun 8, 2013


I commute by bike!
i just realized nobody mentioned Kaiba

Kaiba is one of the best shows ever made and also the most depressing thing yuasa has ever directed

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

The Colonel posted:

i'm gonna put fate/zero in the same heap as elfen lied :twisted:

The being good heap yes

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009

ninjewtsu posted:

asking for a friend: what are some good animes that are depressing, but in a fantastical kind of way? like, she likes neon genesis evangelion and madoka magicka, but not something as "real" as gundam thunderbolt? if that makes sense? she also really likes terror in resonance, if that helps.

i'm drawing a blank for recommendations so i thought that maybe the fine anime experts here at Something Awful might be more knowledgeable than i

a 12 episode anime would be ideal

Now and Then, Here and There

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GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

If a Gundam show is too real for them, the child soldier war crimes show might not be the best selection

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