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Cacafuego posted:Also, had my first 'go around' last night on approach into CLT. I read about it after and it's apparently no big deal, but I was scared for a second there when we pitched up and hit the throttle. Generally, go arounds are preferable to hitting whatever caused it. 
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Only time I really got freaked out was when we took off, leveled off almost immediately and made 2 left turns to enter the downwind pattern to return to the field. I started to see the flashing lights right when we passed the runway threshold and the pilot said we were returning hot and heavy. Go arounds just always happen when I have a connection to make and it makes me a different kind of nervous.
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Apr 19, 2017 03:26
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Tyro posted:AA changed their boarding process last month, there are like 9 or 10 groups now, you should be good. Wait, an airline actually admitted that "priority" or "group 1" boarding is actually like the 5th set that gets to board?
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Apr 19, 2017 04:06
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Thoguh posted:Wait, an airline actually admitted that "priority" or "group 1" boarding is actually like the 5th set that gets to board? Well gold is fairly low status but yeah Group 1: First class and US military, business class on a 2-class international aircraft Group 2: AAdvantage Executive Platinum and Oneworld Emerald, business class on a 3-class international aircraft Group 3: AAdvantage Platinum Pro, AAdvantage Platinum and Oneworld Sapphire Group 4: AAdvantage Gold and Oneworld Ruby, Alaska Airlines MVP members, AirPass, Citi/AAdvantage Executive cardmembers and passengers who purchased priority boarding. UPDATE: Now includes premium economy Group 5: Main Cabin Extra and eligible AAdvantage credit cardmembers Group 6: [General economy boarding. Former Group 2] Group 7: [General economy boarding. Former Group 3] Group 8: [General economy boarding. Former Group 4] Group 9: Basic Economy (when launched) There's a graphic on it in this article: https://thepointsguy.com/2017/01/aa-new-boarding-groups/
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Apr 19, 2017 04:12
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Thoguh posted:Wait, an airline actually admitted that "priority" or "group 1" boarding is actually like the 5th set that gets to board? I mean, when three of your four statuses are different types of platinum, I think it makes sense to rank everyone numerically instead of listing off different metals and precious gems for the first 4 groups.
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Apr 19, 2017 04:18
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creationist believer posted:I mean, when three of your four statuses are different types of platinum, I think it makes sense to rank everyone numerically instead of listing off different metals and precious gems for the first 4 groups. It's helped a little with the crowd of people who swarm the gate when they had group 2 printed on their boarding pass not realizing there were five unnumbered groups before hand. Except at CLT which still seems to have big issues with people swarming the gate and shutting down the hallway there.
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Apr 19, 2017 05:35
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Thomamelas posted:It's helped a little with the crowd of people who swarm the gate when they had group 2 printed on their boarding pass not realizing there were five unnumbered groups before hand. Except at CLT which still seems to have big issues with people swarming the gate and shutting down the hallway there. This is because, like much of the rest of CLT, the place was not designed for the growth it has experienced in the last ten years. I use Terminal A (the original) almost exclusively as a UA flyer and the design is not much different but the gate density sure is. Interested to see what they do with the new A extension they're building over the next two years.
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I'm Group 6 tomorrow. I hate AA. I've never been surprised by a go-around. Usually you can tell when things are going a little bit wrong (or I fly in to the same airport far too many times). Most airport terminals are just not designed for the number of seats available on current aircraft. The 737-800 and A320 are 160-175 passenger aircraft and are by far the most common types in use today at major airports. Throw in some 757s and A321s as well in the ~200 seat class. Thirty years ago, there were mostly 737-200s and DC-9-30s (105 passengers), DC-9-50s (120 passengers), 727-200s (135 passengers), and early MD-80 variants at about 150 seats. Plus, load factors are way up. If I look at the gatehouses even in a relatively new built terminal like Logan terminal A, they're designed with seating for 100-150. People are naturally going to take up a bunch of space
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Most airport terminals are just not designed for the number of seats available on current aircraft. The 737-800 and A320 are 160-175 passenger aircraft and are by far the most common types in use today at major airports. Throw in some 757s and A321s as well in the ~200 seat class. Thirty years ago, there were mostly 737-200s and DC-9-30s (105 passengers), DC-9-50s (120 passengers), 727-200s (135 passengers), and early MD-80 variants at about 150 seats. Plus, load factors are way up. If I look at the gatehouses even in a relatively new built terminal like Logan terminal A, they're designed with seating for 100-150. People are naturally going to take up a bunch of space It's even worse when you get stuck at the end of a terminal, because there always seems to be like 4-6 gates where there should only be 2. The only airport that immediately comes to mind that does an OK job of this is DTW. In the middle where you usually see the 747s and 777s heading for Asia there are a lot of available seats and open spaces around the fountains and other shops. Some of the garage side gates in A terminal are a little cramped, but usually those are MD-88/MD-90/717 gates.
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Apr 19, 2017 14:44
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I don't know, if you show up when all those international flights are going out in the late afternoon for the early Europe departures and the Asian departures, that central section of A is loving terrible. Edit: plus, McNamara was a greefield terminal building completed in 2002, so it should by all rights be a better design than most legacy airport facilities.
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Apr 19, 2017 15:29
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I've said it before, but thank god they changed the rule after 9/11 to not allow mom and pop into the secure side of the airport. I know it sucks for a bunch of airports, but think of how much worse all that would be with those extra bazillion people wandering around.
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Thomamelas posted:It's helped a little with the crowd of people who swarm the gate when they had group 2 printed on their boarding pass not realizing there were five unnumbered groups before hand. Except at CLT which still seems to have big issues with people swarming the gate and shutting down the hallway there. This is why I prefer Southwest's method of boarding. It's by far the most orderly and doesn't end up with a giant cluster gently caress of people crowding each other out at the gate. I wish every airline did it like that.
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Apr 19, 2017 17:52
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Water Resistant posted:This is why I prefer Southwest's method of boarding. It's by far the most orderly and doesn't end up with a giant cluster gently caress of people crowding each other out at the gate. I wish every airline did it like that. no assigned seats can suck a thousand loving dicks
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:no assigned seats can suck a thousand loving dicks
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:no assigned seats can suck a thousand loving dicks Getting on a Southwest flight is like being so much cattle loading into the feedlot. Ugh. Southwest is for people who get to fly once a year.
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Apr 19, 2017 19:38
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Southwest is great if you're flying Business Select and/or have A-List status. Otherwise yes it sucks a bajillion dicks.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:05
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We have to get VP approval to fly Southwest. Also Frontier, Allegiant, JetBlue, or Spirit. Not that anyone flying on business travel would ever choose to. Oddly, no restrictions on budget airlines for overseas segments like EasyJet or Ryanair. On the downside, we got a memo the other week that we can no longer expense business class on flights under 18 hours. Which is pretty much anywhere. Goober Peas fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Apr 19, 2017 20:46
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:no assigned seats can suck a thousand loving dicks
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Goober Peas posted:On the downside, we got a memo the other week that we can no longer expense business class on flights under 18 hours. Which is pretty much anywhere. Is there a nonstop flight that is longer than 18 hours? I know there's a Quantas flight that's does Dallas to Sydney in 17ish hours. Or are they saying that flights like LAX to BOM, which is 21+ hours, would count? Also KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:no assigned seats can suck a thousand loving dicks
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Apr 19, 2017 21:04
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Water Resistant posted:This is why I prefer Southwest's method of boarding. It's by far the most orderly and doesn't end up with a giant cluster gently caress of people crowding each other out at the gate. I wish every airline did it like that. I'll keep pushing through at the gate to remove yet another way for an airline to dehumanize me.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:10
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Goober Peas posted:We have to get VP approval to fly Southwest. Also Frontier, Allegiant, JetBlue, or Spirit. Not that anyone flying on business travel would ever choose to. I would happily fly Jetblue over southwest, frontier, spirit. idk why they get casually tossed aside as a subpar airline.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:41
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kimcicle posted:Is there a nonstop flight that is longer than 18 hours? I know there's a Quantas flight that's does Dallas to Sydney in 17ish hours. Wikipedia says the longest is Auckland to Doha, at 17h 40m. I'm surprised there's enough people flying that route to make it worth their while.
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Mandalay posted:I would happily fly Jetblue over southwest, frontier, spirit. idk why they get casually tossed aside as a subpar airline. We probably don't get a kickback from them  I know Delta, United, and AA give one if we have $X of corporate spend.
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Apr 19, 2017 21:47
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Goober Peas posted:We probably don't get a kickback from them And yes if you were to book a flight that has cumulative segments of 18 hours to one destination, you get business on the company dime. Because that's easier than telling the handful of jerks abusing the system to cut it out or find another job 
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Goober Peas posted:And yes if you were to book a flight that has cumulative segments of 18 hours to one destination, you get business on the company dime. I wish my company would let me book business every time they make me go to Mumbai. 
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Apr 19, 2017 21:53
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kimcicle posted:I wish my company would let me book business every time they make me go to Mumbai. We have an operation in Hyderabad. It's a pain in the rear end to get proper documentation to do any work there, a pain in the rear end to get there, a pain in the rear end once you're there, a pain in the rear end to leave. Flying business is just about the only non-negative to having to go. If you get an assignment there, it's 30 days minimum due to the amount of red tape. Brazil is probably the next most complicated country for us to work in and it's a cakewalk by comparison.
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Apr 19, 2017 22:42
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18 hour long trips suck big time and business just barely compensates for like, 70% of the suck imo.
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As someone who doesn't sleep on coach for more than 45 minutes before waking up in pain I 100% disagree.
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kimcicle posted:Is there a nonstop flight that is longer than 18 hours? I know there's a Quantas flight that's does Dallas to Sydney in 17ish hours. If they count it like the US Government does then it is 18 hours from when you enter your first airport to when you leave your last airport. Though even for the government the limit is like half of that.
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We don't even get to book business class anymore. Under any circumstances. It used to be allowed for international flights with any segment over 8 hours, now under those circumstances we're only allowed to upgrade to premium economy.
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Noctone posted:We don't even get to book business class anymore. Under any circumstances. It used to be allowed for international flights with any segment over 8 hours, now under those circumstances we're only allowed to upgrade to premium economy. Do you at least get to book a real premium economy product and not what the US airlines consider premium economy?
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Beats me. International trips are rare as is for us, and I haven't done one since the new policy went into effect. I would assume it would be like United's Economy Plus or equivalent.
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Thoguh posted:Do you at least get to book a real premium economy product and not what the US airlines consider premium economy? We can book/expense Comfort + seats on Delta (I fly almost exclusively Delta). It depends on the plane whether I do so or not -- if it's an MD8x or MD9x I go for the rear exit row with the jumpseat - where there's a full 15 inches of knee room. I've noticed in Q1 each year Delta charges us for those seats too, but the rest of the year there's no charge. It must have something to do with our corporate contract and reaching a certain threshold. I've also noticed that if I travel with non-frequent fliers in Q1 they are typically Zone 2 boarding, but in Q2-4 they're always Zone 1. Starting about Q2 is when Delta starts offering me paid/points upgrades to First Class. For what it's worth, just my experience as a 30% annual traveler for a Fortune 100 company.
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Lol you fuckers get premium economy? I just had a 14 hour flight in coach for work and had to pay with my own money to get the extra legroom seats.
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I'm not super tall and am used to flying on all sorts of airlands as much as I love Cathay. Going to HKG - NRT round trip for 130 USD so no complaints there. On Vanilla Air. Yeah it's poo poo CC, but who cares
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Sorry for no subtitles but here's a new video from United https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-1qKfG6Yg
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ohgodwhat posted:Lol you fuckers get premium economy? I just had a 14 hour flight in coach for work and had to pay with my own money to get the extra legroom seats. that's cool your job doesn't respect you
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caberham posted:I'm not super tall and am used to flying on all sorts of airlands as much as I love Cathay. Cathay is dying and will get bought by Air China because of millions of people like you who are choosing price over product.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:I'm Group 6 tomorrow. I hate AA. One of the segments I fly most commonly will occasionally have a CRJ-200. 
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