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i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS

Neodoomium posted:

There are five different forwards from the 2002 cup team I would rather have running the team than Ken Holland

Kris Draper will be GM by 2019 so I hope he's one of them.

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Gio
Jun 20, 2005


i am the bird posted:

Barring some crazy outlier season next year, I doubt Holland will get a new contract. I'm going to be the voice of positivity and incredible delusion for RWAS.

next year will probably be an outlier season, allowing ken holland to destroy this team for at least another season.

years ago i was on the "rebuild on the fly" train, thinking the wings draft picks would turn this team into a contender again, but now it's pretty evident that they were just prolonging the inevitable. imagine how hosed this team wouldve been if they had successfully signed suter and parise.

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Six then

Yzerman, Shanahan, Robitaille, Larionov, and Draper

I forgot Fedorov wasn't yet in management and erroneously had him on the list but he certainly could do no worse.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
imagine if this team had actually drafted loving chychrun


imagine a real defensive prospect in the pipeline


imagine

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



They wouldn't have had 7 million dollars to waste on poo poo players so that would have also helped

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS
On the plus side if Detroit takes 40 more years to be really competitive again, then that might be around the same time the Avs do too. Would be nice to have that rivalry again.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


What's the difference between Yzerman to Detroit and Stamkos to Toronto?

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


LumpyGumby posted:

On the plus side if Detroit takes 40 more years to be really competitive again, then that might be around the same time the Avs do too. Would be nice to have that rivalry again.

Roy vs any Detroit goalie inspired my love of goalie fights

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



Even the one where Hasek wanted a piece but tripped on a stick before he could join the club

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

LumpyGumby posted:

On the plus side if Detroit takes 40 more years to be really competitive again, then that might be around the same time the Avs do too. Would be nice to have that rivalry again.

And the Leafs would still be rebuilding.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Teemu Pokemon posted:

Go to cap friendly and look at their roster in 2024 and honestly with a straight face tell me that even if they do choose to finally blow it up and do a proper rebuild, that they'll be anything more than a first round sacrificial lamb by like 2030 the absolute earliest, just as they've been the last few years and doubtful they'd be much better for a few years following barring some incredible luck.

e: I did say, paraphrasing myself, "quite possibly." all it takes is a few bad hires and some lovely draft picks, and that 2030 could be 2040. Not to mention that if that stuff about Chris and the Illitch family are actually true, this could be a full blown reverse Wirtz situation
Where are you pulling these years from? Nothing in the NHL in 2030 is going to be recognizable based on now.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Lol, like civilisation will exist in 3 years, let alone 3 decades.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Schlesische posted:

If Sakic had offloaded his "young stars" at the in-season trade deadline he would have had to have accepted significant underpay.

He was looking for a Sergachev (who... no. Just no.) from the Habs for Duchene. That kind of trade only gets made if you're going up against a really dumb GM on a team desperate to break through. They don't seem to be as prevalent as they did 5 years ago.

I don't think that's much of a stretch. Duchene is 26, signed for two more years at a reasonable cap hit, and is a very good player. Players of that caliber and age rarely become available, and it may be worth mortgaging the future for a handful of potential contenders.

Just as a theoretical, pencil Duchene into Nashville's roster. Formidable on paper, key players at the right ages for opening the window, and their chief divisional rival under their foot. They've even got the cap space.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Zodijackylite posted:

I don't think that's much of a stretch. Duchene is 26, signed for two more years at a reasonable cap hit, and is a very good player. Players of that caliber and age rarely become available, and it may be worth mortgaging the future for a handful of potential contenders.

Just as a theoretical, pencil Duchene into Nashville's roster. Formidable on paper, key players at the right ages for opening the window, and their chief divisional rival under their foot. They've even got the cap space.

My point is, he's not going to get that price at the deadline and definitely not after the Wild and Caps made the seismic splash they made. He's a much better chance after the expansion draft or around the pre-season draft as teams start to look at what they have this year and what they think it'll take to get that far next year.
Assuming they don't think Nolan Patrick/Whoever else is going no1 is going to pull an Auston Matthews.

While I don't think the Habs are going to sell Sergachev at this point in time, I could definitely see them dangling Galchenyuk or Beaulieu's rights.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
Lots of speculation that Tim Murray meets with team owner Terry Pegula today to discuss the state of the team. I hope a lot of people get fired, and that one of those people that gets fired is none other than Dan Bylsma

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Remember when the Sabres rage-hired Bylsma when they found out they couldn't get Babcock? Good times.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/sources-eichel-has-no-desire-sign-extension-if-bylsma-remains-coach

quote:

Inside sources have told me that Eichel has no desire to sign a contract extension this summer if Bylsma remains the coach, so quite a bit hinges on this meeting.

See ya Disco.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Spring Break My Heart posted:

Where are you pulling these years from? Nothing in the NHL in 2030 is going to be recognizable based on now.

We probably should be on our 4th lockout by then so anything's possible

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

I wonder if Shero would hire him again in New Jersey given how rear end Hynes has been

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

i like that some people are apparently scandalized by this as if coaches aren't basically expendable and eichel isn't fully justified

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Yeah I've never been impressed with Bylsma since he got to Buffalo. I get that he doesn't have much talent to work with but it's not the 2013-15 Sabres where they had literally an AHL roster. His continued insistence on using Ristolainen as an all-situations 25+ minutes defenseman seems really bad.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Mind_Taker posted:

Yeah I've never been impressed with Bylsma since he got to Buffalo. I get that he doesn't have much talent to work with but it's not the 2013-15 Sabres where they had literally an AHL roster. His continued insistence on using Ristolainen as an all-situations 25+ minutes defenseman seems really bad.

I mean, Buffalo's roster isn't amazing, but they're nowhere near as bad as they play the majority of the time. He misuses players up and down the roster and puts virtually everyone in positions to fail. This is particularly true of the defense; I don't think they have a single defenseman whose performed better under Bylsma than they did before him.

His system blows and he's boring as gently caress. I hate him and I want him to leave forever

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004


drat, that's pretty rough for Disco Dan.

He sure got lucky with his timing for coaching the Pens. I think they probably would have won the Cup with just about anyone but Therrien behind the bench, and in the following years it became pretty quickly obvious that he had no real system other "pray that stretch passes will generate unlimited breakaways and goals", which works well enough during the regular season when you have Crosby, Malkin and Letang, but does not work very well at all in the playoffs.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Why the gently caress would Eichel sign an extension this summer instead of after next when he presumably has another season solidifying himself as a top 20 C?

Empty threat

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Did Ryan Lambert use to post here? I saw "r-lam" pop in archives when I was looking for something

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Did Ryan Lambert use to post here? I saw "r-lam" pop in archives when I was looking for something

He absolutely did! He stopped posting after people got on him about stealing their jokes for his lovely columns

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Man I'm not even mad the Flames are done. Just relieved.

What a stupid series.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


The Wild looked like a playoff team tonight and for 2/3rds of the game the Blues did not. Hopefully they can buckle down and close it out in Game 5.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


But reverse-sweeps are fun!

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


:kheldragar:

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Jonny Nox posted:

Man I'm not even mad the Flames are done. Just relieved.

What a stupid series.

I thought this might happen. Hopefully, we learn the correct lessons from it and nobody with authority panics. I don't think we should re-sign Elliott, though. He slipped into the same bad habits that plagued him at the beginning of the season.

That said, not sure what to do about our goaltending situation. The UFA crop is mostly butts, maybe Steve Mason or Scott Darling? I'm sure both would love to be the unquestioned #1 starter, especially after what that article said the other day about what Neuvirth and Mason thought about platooning. I'd like Chad back though, he helped Calgary back to the playoffs by playing well when Elliott struggled during the season. And it gives Gillies more time to adjust to being a pro goaltender.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 20, 2017

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




El Gallinero Gros posted:

I thought this might happen. Hopefully, we learn the correct lessons from it and nobody with authority panics. I don't think we should re-sign Elliott, though. He slipped into the same bad habits that plagued him at the beginning of the season.

That said, not sure what to do about our goaltending situation. The UFA crop is butts, maybe Steve Mason or Scott Darling? I'm sure both would love to be the unquestioned #1 starter. I'd like Chad back though, he helped Calgary back to the playoffs by playing well when Elliott struggled during the season. And it gives Gillies more time to adjust to being a pro goaltender.

Grab random crap for a goalie again, pick early in 2018, hope for a good piece.

(Actually: Work a deal for something reliable and long term during the off season, probably using the expansion draft as added leverage)

I could take or leave Johnson, tbh.

Loqieu
Feb 27, 2001

Thought the Flames would go further this year seeing how their advanced stats improved as the season went along. Does appear the goaltending did them in though. They ran a great hot steak when Elliot was locked in for the second half of the season, but the playoffs put the breaks on his game.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

dont be mean to me posted:

But reverse-sweeps are fun!

In the modern era there have only been three reverse sweeps in NHL history.

Jeff Carter and Mike Richards were somehow involved in two of them.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


There, proper, proper title.

:dadjoke:

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Koopa Kid posted:

He absolutely did! He stopped posting after people got on him about stealing their jokes for his lovely columns

r-lam was actually a cool and good poster who is actually probably the best writer on puck daddy (though that is a pretty low bar to clear) completely independent of the justified reason you have said that caused him to leave

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Are there any other blogging superstars that ditched us for greener pastures besides r-lam and Chemmy? I bet VJeff could have made it if only he had posted his essays faster.

Also good thread title

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
I miss Chemmy and r-lam.

Shadow Ninja 64
May 21, 2007

"I stood there, wondering why the puck was getting bigger...

and then it hit me."


Shadow Ninja 64 posted:

The Wild looked like a playoff team tonight and for 2/3rds of the game the Blues did not. Hopefully they can buckle down and close it out in Game 5.

I realized far too late that I posted this in the wrong N/V. My bad. Blues really did look bad for much of tonight though!

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Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
I doubt he had an account here I wish the guy who runs the SinBin account trumpeting Vegas would get thin skinned again and whine about what gets posted here about the team.

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