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violent sex idiot posted:i know, we are talking about logan couture the guy whos entire mouth is currently a bowl of soup Maybe the NHL is waiting for pictures of his mouth to show up on t-shirts?
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RC Cola posted:I hope Crosby hits every Jackets player in the dick next game and scores three hattricks and doesn't get any penaltys Don't doxx my fantasy
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glynnenstein posted:unmarketable I have a hard time buying this argument because the NHL has done precisely dick to market individual players as compared to teams.
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https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNHL/status/854674916502908928 Big Dick Rick
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violent sex idiot posted:i know, we are talking about logan couture the guy whos entire mouth is currently a bowl of soup Emelin was called out by Thornton and Ryan Malone at distinct points for not being able to take a beating, while Emelin has a metal plate in his head that could re-shatter his orbital bone if he gets into a fight. The self-policing of players they love so much kind of gets weird there when you get into the "well the guy won't get his skull caved in for a hit that was borderline and/or dirty what a pussy" territory where nobody knows how to deal with it. Punching a dude in the teeth is the only way to keep hockey mans from murdering each other, that's why you can't have visors, apparently.
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i mean the nhl could fill the void left by the disappearance of enforcers with appropriate penalty calls, fines, and suspensions too, but i can understand why people might not consider that as an option given the nhl's historic competence with these things
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2017 NHL off-season: watch them ruin things more
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RC Cola posted:I hope Crosby hits every Jackets player in the dick next game and scores three hattricks and doesn't get any penaltys So the ANA/CGY crew is moving to the East?
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Thufir posted:I mean stickwork is unfortunate but probably still preferable to CTE in the long term. Pornographic Memory posted:i mean the nhl could fill the void left by the disappearance of enforcers with appropriate penalty calls, fines, and suspensions too, but i can understand why people might not consider that as an option given the nhl's historic competence with these things This is what I was suggesting, not bringing back skull-smashing.  Spearing is dangerous and it's a major penalty because of that. 95% of these are super obvious, on replay, but might be hard to catch for a ref on-ice. Make it a 1-game suspension. "Because it's the Cup."
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ThinkTank posted:Connor got rowdy last night. It seemed like this game for him was a year's worth of frustration from nothing done against him getting called all coming out at once now that he can return it without taking a penalty himself. Zodijackylite posted:This is what I was suggesting, not bringing back skull-smashing. There's a lot of dangerous poo poo that happens on ice, is seen, and doesn't get called. When Johnny hockey's finger got broken, Gulutzan said it wasn't a unicorn. it was the "regular hockey play", one of 11+ on him that game, of a two handed chop to the hands. It wouldn't surprise me if "take a pay cut or we'll let goons chop your fingers off" is a Bettman negotiating tactic, because it seems in the regular season it was open season on anybody who could skate well.
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He never meant to hit him, that's McDavid's version of "Write an angry letter and don't send it".
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There's a lot of stick work that looks close enough to a "hockey play" when guys are stick checking or battling for position, but nutshots are almost always not even close to being mistakable for good hockey plays. Getting his in the hands/wrists/ribs in front of the net battling for position? Could be a "hockey play" Getting stabbed with the tip of a stick in the groin away from the play? Nope.
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Crazy idea: call lots of penalties. It'll increase scoring and if teams want a competitive edge, they can stop doing stupid poo poo that causes them to take penalties. E: bonus: when teams stop doing dumb poo poo, scoring will also probably go up! E2: lol, Jk. Just make the nets bigger or rounded or something. Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Apr 19, 2017 |
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Powershift posted:It seemed like this game for him was a year's worth of frustration from nothing done against him getting called all coming out at once now that he can return it without taking a penalty himself. Actually it seemed like he was told to take out a vulnerable Couture. Couture was getting all sorts of bullshit right up in what's left of his grill.
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JoelJoel posted:Crazy idea: call lots of penalties. It'll increase scoring and if teams want a competitive edge, they can stop doing stupid poo poo that causes them to take penalties. but but but but the refs can't decide the game!!!!
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Jehde posted:Actually it seemed like he was told to take out a vulnerable Couture. Couture was getting all sorts of bullshit right up in what's left of his grill. Yeah, The Oilers sent their disposable goon, Connor Mcdavid, out to injure a guy.
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Apr 19, 2017 17:51
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Emelin maybe back in for game 5? yes please
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People are talking about Paul Stastny coming back tonight, but I'd prefer to hold him out until Game 5 if they lose. If they win, then great, his ankle has another week or so to heal without getting physically abused.
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JoelJoel posted:Crazy idea: call lots of penalties. It'll increase scoring and if teams want a competitive edge, they can stop doing stupid poo poo that causes them to take penalties. Doesn't even need to be a lot more. I knocked together some numbers a while back that showed that, with one more power play per team per game and a similar league-wide conversion rate, scoring would likely go up to roughly where it was 10 years ago.
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Levitate posted:Emelin maybe back in for game 5? yes please https://twitter.com/ArponBasu/status/854737468733751297 He'll be in 
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St. Dogbert posted:Doesn't even need to be a lot more. I knocked together some numbers a while back that showed that, with one more power play per team per game and a similar league-wide conversion rate, scoring would likely go up to roughly where it was 10 years ago. It's not just powerplays. Its allowing quick small forwards to make plays instead of being grabbed and held mid deke. Defensemen would have to change they way they play if they can't just grab the guy who can out skate them. Calling obstruction when it happens would increase scoring, and make the entertaining players more entertaining.
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gg rags
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Aw man, I don't wanna face the rags in round 2.
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Powershift posted:It's not just powerplays. Its allowing quick small forwards to make plays instead of being grabbed and held mid deke. Defensemen would have to change they way they play if they can't just grab the guy who can out skate them. P much this. Increasing the number of penalties called isnt the end goal, simply a means of forcing teams to adjust how they play so the game can speed up and allow good players and display their talent. Clutch and grab is poo poo and makes for poo poo hockey.
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Is Mark Streit hurt? Or is he healthy scratched? Also, where is Carl Hagelin? 
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yellowcar posted:gg rags RIP Carey Price, Kreider now has the excuse he needed
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Levitate posted:RIP Carey Price, Kreider now has the excuse he needed maybe he should find an excuse to actually play hockey a bit because he's been absolutely invisible thus far
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myron cope posted:Is Mark Streit hurt? Or is he healthy scratched? Healthy scratch, which I don't get at all. Like why trade for him if you're gonna do this. Especially when your D corps is the walking drat wounded. He's been scratched all 4 games, too.
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a false posted:maybe he should find an excuse to actually play hockey a bit because he's been absolutely invisible thus far  He did some things last night but yeah he needs to start scoring goals
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Healthy scratch, which I don't get at all. Like why trade for him if you're gonna do this. Especially when your D corps is the walking drat wounded. He's been scratched all 4 games, too. I don't really think he could be worse than Maatta (or Daley for that matter) so I dunno! But for what it's worth I don't think many teams would be too comfortable having a career AHLer even as their 7th defenseman in the playoffs, which is the alternative to not having traded for Streit (or another defenseman).
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Pornographic Memory posted:I don't really think he could be worse than Maatta (or Daley for that matter) so I dunno! But for what it's worth I don't think many teams would be too comfortable having a career AHLer even as their 7th defenseman in the playoffs, which is the alternative to not having traded for Streit (or another defenseman). Yeah I thought part of the rationale for getting Hainsey and Streit was to have a surplus of middle/bottom tier depth on D. Obviously that's not ideal, but there was no realistic way for the Pens to bolster their top tier D, esp with Shatty going to WSH. So if you know you're going to have to rely on a bunch of mediocre defensemen, at least having a lot of them that you can rotate in and out means that you're not going to have to rely on a bunch of mediocre, exhausted defensemen. I don't necessarily think Streit will be a huge upgrade on the D line, but at least he's well rested. I think Maatta in particular needs another night off to allow his legs to transform back from stone into flesh. I'm not sure what's up with Hagelin, no real status update as far as I'm aware. Latest I heard is that he's not practicing with the team today, along with the other injured players, which is not a great sign. I think best case scenario would be that he gets ready for the 2nd round, but then again if he was that close to being ready then I'd have to expect he'd at least be skating with the team. He would be a huge upgrade on our offensive depth rn, I really hope he get back into the lineup
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leon draisaitl gets a hearing for the nutshot yesterday
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Yeah I don't get the pens scratching Streit. He's perfectly fine as a lower pairing guy and it's not as if Pittsburgh has a surplus of NHL-level defensemen right now.
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DJExile posted:Yeah I don't get the pens scratching Streit. He's perfectly fine as a lower pairing guy and it's not as if Pittsburgh has a surplus of NHL-level defensemen right now. Not sure he's better than any of the guys playing. I don't get the Maatta hate up in here either. I didn't see last night's game so maybe he was a dumpster fire but overall he's been one of our steadier defenders this series. Prior to last night's game he was only on the ice for like one goal against iirc.
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Ginette Reno posted:Not sure he's better than any of the guys playing.
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DJExile posted:Whatever happened with Maatta anyway? Wasn't he pretty highly touted when he came into pittsburgh a couple years ago? Did he get hurt or something and just couldn't come back from it? He's had some injuries and surgery to remove a potential cancer. I remember him being slow as hell even in his rookie year but he seems slower now even than he was back then. Still he usually makes up for it by being smart and having a good pass/gap. But yeah it's definitely noticeable when he fucks up because his lack of foot speed can doom him.
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