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DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Oh jeez, I totally forgot about the cancer thing.

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cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



He had to do chemo follow-up for that, too. He also fell backwards into an open bench door and apparently had a hard time recovering from that in terms of his skating.

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
Cancer, two surgeries on the same shoulder. hot-brained by Orpik, hand surgery this year... he just hasn't been able to stay healthy to really work on his strength. He has good hockey sense, but I'm hoping he can have a safe rest of the year.

E: I forgot about that open door fall too, that was scary. He can't catch a break.

.Spec
Oct 4, 2001

And don't forget the mumps!

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Staying healthy isn't going to help his slow skating speed, he's pretty hosed in that regard.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Powershift posted:

It's not just powerplays. Its allowing quick small forwards to make plays instead of being grabbed and held mid deke. Defensemen would have to change they way they play if they can't just grab the guy who can out skate them.

Calling obstruction when it happens would increase scoring, and make the entertaining players more entertaining.

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Levitate posted:

Staying healthy isn't going to help his slow skating speed, he's pretty hosed in that regard.

He'd probably fit better in the West or on a slower more deliberate team like the Caps.

He still performs fine. It's not always pretty. But his possession numbers are fine and he doesn't do anything glaringly bad usually. The thing that concerns me more than the slow foot speed is his offensive ability seems to have completely dried up. He used to be good for 30 or so points, but now he's like a pure defensive dman who can pass. Kinda like Brian Dumoulin I guess except he can't skate :v:

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

:stonklol: Holy poo poo.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck :vince:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

:sbahj:

The RECAPITATOR
May 12, 2006

Cursed to like terrible teams.
so.... what's the story?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The RECAPITATOR posted:

so.... what's the story?

Some football dude hung himself in prison

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
A dirty play "below the belt"

Jovial Cow
Sep 7, 2006

inherently good

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

Savage

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

:vince: :vince: :vince:






Seriously holy poo poo

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

Ginette Reno posted:

He'd probably fit better in the West or on a slower more deliberate team like the Caps.

He still performs fine. It's not always pretty. But his possession numbers are fine and he doesn't do anything glaringly bad usually. The thing that concerns me more than the slow foot speed is his offensive ability seems to have completely dried up. He used to be good for 30 or so points, but now he's like a pure defensive dman who can pass. Kinda like Brian Dumoulin I guess except he can't skate :v:

Yah I think it's more that after he was drafted and made the team as an 18 year old, everyone (well, Pens fans anyways) had visions of him continuing to improve and being this excellent blueliner for them. That's probably not going to happen...being a solid reliable guy isn't a bad thing but there's probably some unfulfilled promise there now.

Brady Skjei's better than him anyways :colbert:

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

:drat:

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
It's that kind of horribly dark and tasteless joke that makes my :10bux: worth the investment.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1fUwKMdAI

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

Bruuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh :vince:

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

:stonk:

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

not bad

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009


Not great either. Didn't deserve a page full of empty quotes.

:corsair:

Ergo Propter Hog
Jul 21, 2014



Zodijackylite posted:

Hockey could use more dekes, but a football player's got the sickest dangle of the month.

got drat

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

xzzy posted:

Not great either. Didn't deserve a page full of empty quotes.

:corsair:

:fuckoff:

Zodijackylite posted:

A dirty play "below the belt"

:stonklol: pretty solid follow up too

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

xzzy posted:

Not great either. Didn't deserve a page full of empty quotes.

:corsair:

i mean as far as intentionally offensive humor (which i typically do not enjoy) goes it was pretty good and also i guess when the butt of the joke is a guy who was unequivocally a very bad person it's ok to make a joke like that about them although i do feel bad in a way for aaron hernandez because he clearly was hosed in the head and probably due to his athletic talent was actively encouraged in his sociopathic behavior and actively dissuaded from getting any help ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Levitate posted:

Yah I think it's more that after he was drafted and made the team as an 18 year old, everyone (well, Pens fans anyways) had visions of him continuing to improve and being this excellent blueliner for them. That's probably not going to happen...being a solid reliable guy isn't a bad thing but there's probably some unfulfilled promise there now.

Brady Skjei's better than him anyways :colbert:

I mean he's still a top 4ish dman I think who is reliable defensively. It's not like he's a bum. But yeah we envisioned like a 40 point two-way guy which sadly it doesn't look like he's going to be that.

At least he's not Pouliot.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

GBS one was solid too.

"Aaron Hernandez out indefinitely with neck injury".

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Bit of a stretch.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Aphrodite posted:

GBS one was solid too.

"Aaron Hernandez out indefinitely with neck injury".

meanwhile in hockey world he'd have an "upper body injury"

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Two game suspension.

He has a history.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Ginette Reno posted:

He's had some injuries and surgery to remove a potential cancer. I remember him being slow as hell even in his rookie year but he seems slower now even than he was back then.

Still he usually makes up for it by being smart and having a good pass/gap. But yeah it's definitely noticeable when he fucks up because his lack of foot speed can doom him.

I don't know, I don't remember ever thinking Maatta was slow his rookie year, but maybe that's selective memory. I think he's gotten noticeably slower, and if anything I think his decision making, gap control, etc. are also at best stagnant (not improving) and IMO I think they're actually declining. Especially over the past year or so, he just seems to make increasingly poor decisions with the puck, leading to more turnovers (and not in a "well, he has the puck so much so it's actually a good thing he has a lot of turnovers!" kind of way) that he can't recover from because he's so slow. Injuries have definitely contributed, but I also wonder if he's got a bit of a confidence issue.

If you look at his stats from the past 2 years, he puts up pretty comparable CF%rel as Daley and Cole, which is slightly negative, with Cole having slightly less favorable zone starts than Maatta or Daley. However, most of Maatta's ice time has been with Letang over the past couple years, and as you could probably guess his WOWY's suggest that Letang is the one driving possession when they're together.

Basically his stats are getting worse, he's looking worse via the eye test, and even though he's young there just aren't really the hints of improvement that you'd hope to see for his long-term outlook. He's not so bad that we need to dump him ASAP or anything, and given how young he is and how talented he looked in his rookie year, there's still reason to have some hope, but the clock is definitely ticking.

For short term outlook in the playoffs, I just think we have enough depth in Streit that it'd be worth resting Maatta a game here and there so that he's not battling fatigue on top of his already tortoise-like speed, but I don't necessarily think Streit is a huge upgrade or anything.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


GDT up: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3817694

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Lmao Oilers nutshot dude only got a fine

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Jake Dotchin, most valuable dick in the league.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


shyduck posted:

Lmao Oilers nutshot dude only got a fine

It was his first offense ever in the NHL, and first since 2013 in anything.

He's not like marchand or crosby with a history.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Powershift posted:

It was his first offense ever in the NHL, and first since 2013 in anything.

He's not like marchand or crosby with a history.

Come on, including crosby as having a history is a joke.

Officially, he's clean.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Is Maatta's problem just that he hasn't played a huge stretch of games at a time in quite some time now? He came back, what, 2 weeks ago? I don't know that Streit isn't better than him right now, but I also don't know if sitting him will help him get back into form either. I think trying Streit could be an option, but maybe not for a few more games of not seeing improvement for Maatta.

It being the playoffs complicates things tho. He may not have the time needed to work things out.

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


iospace posted:

Come on, including crosby as having a history is a joke.

Officially, he's clean.

Officially, OJ didn't do it.

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