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Don't be the kind of crazy person who tries to do every part/sidequest in a Persona or Tales game on your first playthrough. It's never worth it.
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Yeah that's a way to end up just hating the game. It's like reading a walkthrough for a game that's literally "Okay now turn left. Pick up this item. Turn right. Move forward until you can turn right. Open the door." and following it step by excruciating step.
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Apr 19, 2017 19:44
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RareAcumen posted:Don't be the kind of crazy person who tries to do every part/sidequest in a Persona or Tales game on your first playthrough. It's never worth it. I co-oped Tales of Vesperia with my brother and on NG+ he printed out a huge gently caress-off document on all the side quests. We got through like half.
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Apr 19, 2017 19:57
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RBA Starblade posted:I co-oped Tales of Vesperia with my brother and on NG+ he printed out a huge gently caress-off document on all the side quests. We got through like half. I did that on my own and I had fun with it. But the difference is that when I did it it was spread out over like 5 playthroughs of the game and I kept taking my overpowered endgame armor along too. So the replays were very short and lucrative since I never sold weapons because of all the great skills. Despite that, the only game I've ever 100% was some DS Kirby game.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:02
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RareAcumen posted:I did that on my own and I had fun with it. But the difference is that when I did it it was spread out over like 5 playthroughs of the game and I kept taking my overpowered endgame armor along too. So the replays were very short and lucrative since I never sold weapons because of all the great skills. Oh it was a lot of fun and we enjoyed it but there's just so much obscure and random stuff to do.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:11
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Screaming Idiot posted:Anything longer than WoW quest text has Bibs frothing and twitching on the floor, so maybe I oughtta be more understanding. Hard to call people brokebrained when you can't come up with an analogy that doesn't involve world of warcraft
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Apr 19, 2017 21:57
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ArtIsResistance posted:Hard to call people brokebrained when you can't come up with an analogy that doesn't involve world of warcraft Bibs plays WoW too and is equally annoying in that forum.
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Apr 19, 2017 22:27
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Yardbomb posted:Bibs plays WoW too and is equally annoying in that forum. I've seen his posts in the IMM thread. It's safe to assume he's consistently stubborn wherever he posts. The problem is that he's aware everyone hates his opinions and posts away while entire threads fall over themselves trying to own the guy who can't eat a hotdog.
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Apr 19, 2017 22:35
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I'm currently getting into the end game gathering for FF14. To access the higher end materials you of course need higher stats which you get from higher leveled gear. Makes sense right? So the problem: You would think with these higher stats it'd be easier to get the lower leveled stuff right? Haha, no. There is a cap, they cap your gathering rate and your collectability rate. If they didn't, then the formula is so crazy on the high end that you need a shitload of stats to get a single point increase. This item I'm trying to gather has a 95% chance to collect, it had that rate when I was wearing level 58 gear and it still has that rate wearing the 3rd best gathering gear. When it comes to collectability it still accrues at the same rate as it did 40 item levels ago. I don't feel like I'm actually advancing in gathering, I just feel like I can collect a handful of extra items and thats it.
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Apr 19, 2017 22:56
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Action Tortoise posted:The problem is that he's aware everyone hates his opinions and posts away while entire threads fall over themselves trying to own the guy who can't eat a hotdog. Especially when they are doing it for really silly reasons. Why defend the "honor" of Planescape Torment, of all games?  Unrelated, the #1 annoying me about Animal Crossing is that nothing auto-stacks in my inventory. If I'm going around picking every cherry off every tree, having to go into my inventory to make a stack of 9 every other tree is annoying as poo poo.
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Apr 19, 2017 23:11
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MisterBibs posted:Why defend the "honor" of Planescape Torment, of all games? Choke on a wiener, hotdog or otherwise.
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Apr 19, 2017 23:46
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MisterBibs posted:Unrelated, the #1 annoying me about Animal Crossing is that nothing auto-stacks in my inventory. If I'm going around picking every cherry off every tree, having to go into my inventory to make a stack of 9 every other tree is annoying as poo poo. Oh jesus, tell me about it. The easiest way to make bank early on is to shake all the trees daily and catch the bees. Problem is, cash, bugs and beehives don't stack, so you have to make sure you have enough space before you go shaking that next tree, or you're going to get stung.
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Apr 20, 2017 00:17
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Poulpe posted:Persona 5 in general is pretty regressive in that regard, yeah. I havent played 5 but I thought this was a huge problem with P4, or whichever one had the fat girl and the horny middle aged female teacher. People don't just boil down to cruel stereotypes, kids! As Walt Whitman said, they contain multitudes. Anyway here are two of the types of women it's OK to be mean to in Japan I think Persona is aimed at the same age cohort as like YA literature, Hunger Games type of stuff, which in general has a problem with pushing a message really hard but then undermining it by the stereotypical, tropey entertainment that delivers it. I kind of missed the age cutoff on that but I imagine my 14 year old self seeing, for example, Divergent, and i'm like wow I would have learned a terrible lesson from that
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Apr 20, 2017 01:37
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MisterBibs posted:Especially when they are doing it for really silly reasons. Why defend the "honor" of Planescape Torment, of all games? Why continue to post things you know will attract more negative attention? What the gently caress happened with the PC port of Dark Souls? I ran it for the first time since the steamworks update and the resolution is locked to a portion of my screen even though the hud looks perfectly fine.
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Apr 20, 2017 03:04
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Action Tortoise posted:Why continue to post things you know will attract more negative attention? That's a problem with DSfix, turn off AA and blur in the game's menu.
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Apr 20, 2017 03:32
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Dammit, Persona 5, if you're not going to let me do anything at night, just send me straight to bed!
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Apr 20, 2017 03:51
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:oh man. quoting this for posterity I think I'm just not a big fan of the lyrics, the Japanese version is 100% better. Just started the C/D path and it's really really good, like holy poo poo. I'm hoping the virus thing doesn't mean I have to play as 9S some more because I am very sick of his moveset, but I got punched into the ruins cave while 2B was stumbling about and couldn't get the ladder or anything so wellp. IDK if that's supposed to happen or if I had to make it to the quest marker but I was looking for a good time to break for lunch anyway. Gitro has a new favorite as of 05:00 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 03:56
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Leavemywife posted:Dammit, Persona 5, if you're not going to let me do anything at night, just send me straight to bed! Let's not do this tonight. loving cat  Oxxidation posted:Persona 5 does actually give you nearly enough time to do everything in the first go, but it requires you to exploit mechanics you'd have no idea existed without a guide. The Fortune and Temperance links are crucial for freeing up your schedule and you probably can't complete the dungeons in a timely manner without the goodies from the Death link's SP-boosting accessories. Then there's the fact that nearly half the links boost your stats as well, so if you spent all your time grinding up a particular stat on the side-activities instead then that's wasted points. And over it all, the face of That loving Cat and its demands for excessive slumber looms large. I'm actually doing it now using a walkthrough I found on GameFAQs. I actually think it's quite chill, since I can just sit back and watch the animes without having to worry about whether seeing Waifu 1 instead of Waifu 2 wil mean I runout of time in the future. Also, I'm not sure I'll ever do a 2nd playthrough since most Persona games take 100+ hours to clear. Clearing the dungeons in a single run was initially pretty brutal, since I did the first 2 just with consumables, but now I have the 50k invigorate 3 thing from Dr Death it's actually fairly doable too.
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Apr 20, 2017 09:35
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More of a console thing, but I hate when manufacturers don't put symbols on their buttons/hide the buttons entirely as they are trying to look "Sleek". PS4 could use a label so you can remember which button turns the console off/on and which one releases the disk, as I am sometimes getting them mixed up. The WiiU has nice bold buttons that tell you what they do so basic things are just easier on that console.
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Apr 20, 2017 12:46
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BioEnchanted posted:More of a console thing, but I hate when manufacturers don't put symbols on their buttons/hide the buttons entirely as they are trying to look "Sleek". PS4 could use a label so you can remember which button turns the console off/on and which one releases the disk, as I am sometimes getting them mixed up. The WiiU has nice bold buttons that tell you what they do so basic things are just easier on that console.
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Apr 20, 2017 13:00
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I felt like a complete fool when I had to fire up google to figure out how to turn my PS4 on. I also miss when consoles weren't trying to be pseudo-PCs and you could just loving switch one off
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Apr 20, 2017 13:53
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2house2fly posted:I felt like a complete fool when I had to fire up google to figure out how to turn my PS4 on. I also miss when consoles weren't trying to be pseudo-PCs and you could just loving switch one off You know you can just turn it on with your controller, right?
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Apr 20, 2017 14:28
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Kay Kessler posted:You know you can just turn it on with your controller, right? The ps4's hardware is a piece of poo poo that very often needs to be rebooted or hard shut down or turned on in safe mode and you need to press the power button on the console to do that
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Apr 20, 2017 14:42
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I do know I can turn it on with the controller, but I think when I first got it the controller wasn't charged or needed to be synced up to it or something, and I had to turn it on at the console itself and the instruction manual looked like this
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Apr 20, 2017 15:33
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Calaveron posted:The ps4's hardware is a piece of poo poo that very often needs to be rebooted or hard shut down or turned on in safe mode and you need to press the power button on the console to do that I've had mine for a couple years now and haven't had to do that yet. My anecdotal evidence proves you're wrong  But yeah gonna jump on the side of I couldn't figure out how to turn the fucker on day 1.
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Apr 20, 2017 15:36
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Leavemywife posted:Dammit, Persona 5, if you're not going to let me do anything at night, just send me straight to bed! A week from now when the protagonist gets killed from a lucky Mudo and you get shunted to the Game Over screen you'll be kicking yourself for not saving every time you're in LeBlanc. That's what that time is for. Calaveron posted:The ps4's hardware is a piece of poo poo that very often needs to be rebooted or hard shut down or turned on in safe mode and you need to press the power button on the console to do that lol are you cramming pennies in the disk drive or what, I've never even heard of anything like this
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Apr 20, 2017 15:51
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I only get confused when I need to eject the disc, but then I just sort of poke it all over the place until it comes out 
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Apr 20, 2017 15:59
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Gerblyn posted:I only get confused [...] but then I just sort of poke it all over the place until it comes out 
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Apr 20, 2017 16:04
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food court bailiff posted:A week from now when the protagonist gets killed from a lucky Mudo and you get shunted to the Game Over screen you'll be kicking yourself for not saving every time you're in LeBlanc. That's what that time is for. That's what I take those times as. It's the "shits gonna happen and it might take hours. Strap in and save now."
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Apr 20, 2017 16:20
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2house2fly posted:I felt like a complete fool when I had to fire up google to figure out how to turn my PS4 on. I also miss when consoles weren't trying to be pseudo-PCs and you could just loving switch one off
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Apr 20, 2017 16:27
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Calaveron posted:The ps4's hardware is a piece of poo poo that very often needs to be rebooted or hard shut down or turned on in safe mode and you need to press the power button on the console to do that food court bailiff posted:lol are you cramming pennies in the disk drive or what, I've never even heard of anything like this My PS4 is a refurbished second-hand one, I have either hard drive issues that require fixing in Safe Mode or the console just randomly spitting out the disc without me touching it pretty frequently  I have no idea why
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Apr 20, 2017 16:29
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I'm never actually sure whether I've powered my Wii U off or if it's just gone to sleep, but I'm very stupid
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Apr 20, 2017 16:30
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The difficulty in Nier: Automata is completely wonky, and flat out not fun on any level. Normal i could probably play without looking at the screen, Hard is an exercise in frustration. Hard just ups the enemy damage by two, sometimes feels like even 3 times. Which means hits that barely annoy you on Normal will take off two thirds of your health on Hard. I just had a bossfight where, on Hard, I was chugging health potions after ever hit, sometimes having to use them between the hits of his grab attack to stay alive. On Normal mode, my "heal yourself for 10% of damage dealt" upgrade meant that I needed no items in the whole fight at all. There's also the issue of lock-on - hard-mode takes it away from you. Which renders your ranged weapons practically useless, as you can't aim, dodge, stab and shoot multiple enemies at once like you can in Normal. Swarms of flying enemies are near impossible on Hard because 90% of your shoots are gonna go wild.
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Apr 20, 2017 16:35
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TOO MANY GOBLINS posted:My PS4 is a refurbished second-hand one, I have either hard drive issues that require fixing in Safe Mode or the console just randomly spitting out the disc without me touching it pretty frequently Throw a cheap big HDD in there to fix the hard drive problems, I have no idea what would make it spit out the disc though. I'm not far in P5, just finished the second Palace, but by god I hate all the characters so far. There's the brash idiot, the mopey sexpot, and the aloof douchebag, all led by the most annoying cat in existence. E: I feel like I should go into detail on why Morgana sucks when Teddie was great. As annoying as Teddie was, he was in the characters' corner from the start. He is nearly as lost and confused as they are in the TV world, and is completely oblivious to the ways of the real world. Morgana, on the other hand, is absolutely goddamn convinced that he knows everything about the Metaverse (despite never successfully stealing a Treasure before) and sure as poo poo doesn't let you forget it. Add to that the never-ending condescension during battles ("Skull, you're pathetic." "Panther, you've got to watch them!" Shut up, you loving cat, your damage output is awful) and it's just a really grating experience overall. It's gotten very slightly better as the game has progressed a bit but seriously, someone that small and eminently puntable should not run their drat mouth so much. Rockman Reserve has a new favorite as of 17:00 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 16:42
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The difficulty in Nier: Automata is completely wonky, and flat out not fun on any level. Normal i could probably play without looking at the screen, Hard is an exercise in frustration.
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Apr 20, 2017 16:54
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Removing lock on is such a weird design decision since it makes Nines' route annoying, but lock on can get wonky with which enemy you intended to target anyway.
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Apr 20, 2017 17:14
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BioEnchanted posted:More of a console thing, but I hate when manufacturers don't put symbols on their buttons/hide the buttons entirely as they are trying to look "Sleek". PS4 could use a label so you can remember which button turns the console off/on and which one releases the disk, as I am sometimes getting them mixed up. The WiiU has nice bold buttons that tell you what they do so basic things are just easier on that console. The really lovely part is they're not even buttons, just tiny areas on the console that you touch.
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Apr 20, 2017 17:45
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You don't get anything from playing on Hard so I'm surprised how many people are doing it regardless.
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Apr 20, 2017 18:00
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RareAcumen posted:You don't get anything from playing on Hard so I'm surprised how many people are doing it regardless. The point of difficulty levels is finding a level of challenge that fits your skill/patience. If normal is too easy but hard wrecks you it can be very unsatisfying either way.
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RareAcumen posted:You don't get anything from playing on Hard so I'm surprised how many people are doing it regardless. It's not too hard, just balanced weirdly. Normal is far too easy. So Hard it is.
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Apr 20, 2017 18:22
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