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I will say as much as I love Mike they've concentrated on him a little too much. It's not that I don't like his scenes, just it seems like at this point it's more "Better Call Saul and Mike" than anything. And I still like that, just, yeah.. I was really going in expecting much more Jimmy.
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Barreft posted:I will say as much as I love Mike they've concentrated on him a little too much. I think the way they slammed on the brakes between the first and second seasons really shifted the balance. Later seasons were probably going to open up the supporting cast a bit no matter what, because that's what happens with most shows, but once Jimmy was basically stuck treading water for a lot of last season, the momentum for the show increasingly came from Mike and Friends in their own Breaking Bad prequel. Obviously the overwhelmingly positive reaction for the Mike episode in the first season had a lot to do with it too, but keeping Jimmy from progressing to a point where he'd need a fixer like Mike on a more regular basis is a big part of what kept them apart.
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Steve2911 posted:I really can't stand all this "Jimmy becoming Saul" talk. Other than choosing to go by a different name Jimmy is the same character as Saul at a different point in his life. Same, its similar to how some people talk about Walt and Heisenberg as if it's a Jekyll and Hyde thing.
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I have to agree I would like Mike's and Jimmy's stories to intersect a bit more. And with Gus in the picture now, I think we're going to start to see that happen more. Now, Breaking Bad already established that Saul never dealt directly with Gus in a real way--and while you could always retcon that as Saul lying to cover his rear end, I think that would end up ringing false. (For one thing, it always made sense that Gus would never have directly involved Saul in his operations. Saul obviously isn't the kind of guy Gus likes dealing with.) But from his introductory episode in BB we already know Saul ends up getting into some shenanigans with the Juárez Cartel, which would involve him directly in plotlines involving Mike, Nacho, and Gus, even if Gus himself remains at a distance from him. sweetmercifulcrap posted:Same, its similar to how some people talk about Walt and Heisenberg as if it's a Jekyll and Hyde thing. They're obviously not literal split personalities but Heisenberg and Saul are alter-egos of Walt and Jimmy respectively, and it's perfectly natural to talk about them in a literary, Jekyll-and-Hyde way. BCS is entirely about Jimmy "becoming" Saul, in the sense that he gives into his darker impulses and becomes something recognizably distinct from what he started out as. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 05:04
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Shbobdb posted:The "secret menu item" is Christmas except it's not a secret at all. But it makes the locals feel special. Pretty sure it's "Franch" dipping sauce.
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I'm honestly more excited to see the show introduce Lalo than in seeing Gus. A so-far unseen cartel bigwig who Jimmy and Nacho pull one over on, leaving Jimmy looking over his shoulder all the way into the BB era? Gimme that storyline, Vince.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Pretty sure it's "Franch" dipping sauce. It's a beloved regional chain that started in
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:I'm 100% sure Jimmy ordered a breakfast burrito. To be a restaurant in Albuquerque it's practically required by law that you serve breakfast burritos, especially fast food restaurants. He ordered a "Pollos Classic." Given the little background we know about the restaurant (it started out selling Gus' lover's chicken recipe from Chile) that's probably just a piece of fried chicken. One thigh or whatever and a coffee could reasonably cost 3 bucks in 2002. Help Im Alive posted:I think it makes for a more powerful villain if the chicken is bad I think it makes for a more powerful villain if the chicken is good. Like "of course it's good, Mr. Bond. One cannot build an empire upon mediocrity. There is no pursuit I choose in which I do not excel."
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Apr 20, 2017 08:27
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It just seems to me like a place like Albuquerque probably has 3 dozen really great and cheap local mexican/southern breakfast places for every one lovely chicken restaurant so Pollos must be really good.
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:It just seems to me like a place like Albuquerque probably has 3 dozen really great and cheap local mexican/southern breakfast places for every one lovely chicken restaurant so Pollos must be really good. Pollos Hermanos started out as one of those really great and cheap "mexican" (Chilean) places, and from the maps we see in BB five years later they have like 20 or so locations across four states. That's not too many places for the quality to remain high, especially with a perfectionist like Gus at the helm. I think it's good chicken. e: Making a Pollos Hermanos food truck to drive around selling some interpretation of Chilean fried chicken would be an awesome marketing move
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Any word on how long this show is planned to go? They have to work towards an ending eventually. Unless they start doing plot about stuff that was going on in Breaking Bad when Saul was offscreen.
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sticklefifer posted:Any word on how long this show is planned to go? They have to work towards an ending eventually. jesse pinkman knew about saul but it was never explained how or why. maybe we get to meet jesse pinkman in high school and also see a healthy and not drug kingpin walter white. but maybe i'm jumping the shark here
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Apr 20, 2017 11:18
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I doubt it; Aaron Paul hasn't got any younger...
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Apr 20, 2017 11:40
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Gus looked like he's put on weight
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TBeats posted:jesse pinkman knew about saul but it was never explained how or why. I'm pretty sure the connection was through Badger, right? e: maybe I'm getting this the wrong way round sout fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 12:12
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vague memory of Jesse saying his cousin used him
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Aaron Paul is way too old to show up. It would be like when that 40 year old teenager shows up in Fast 7.
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Cojawfee posted:Aaron Paul is way too old to show up. It would be like when that 40 year old teenager shows up in Fast 7. Oh you mean the best part of that film
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Lucas Black simply lived so fast and so furiously that he began to age unnaturally quickly.
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sticklefifer posted:Any word on how long this show is planned to go? They have to work towards an ending eventually. I believe AMC also pulled that with Mad Men.
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For those looking for more Bob Odenkirk, I would like to recommend a show he was an executive producer for, Tom goes to the Mayor. It's a show about a guy named Tom who goes to the Mayor with good intentions for which the Major usually took advantage of. Just in case no one has seen it, I would like to talk about two of my favorite episodes. In Boy Meets Mayor, The Mayor needs a PR man, and wouldn't you know it, Tom is that PR man. In order to distract the furor over the Mayor's scandal, Tom, the Mayor and the sickly son of a local sandalmaker, Mr. Sandalman (played by Bob Odenkirk) take to a hot-air balloon and attempt to break a hot-air balloon record previously held by Sandalman.  In Bass Fest, after Tom's adult school field trip reveals cracks in the Richardson Family Dam. Tom goes on a mission to halt the upcoming Jefferton Bass Fest. With The Mayor, bass musician Wizzard( Bob Odenkirk ), Joy and his children standing in the way, Tom launches a protest canoe to warn the town.  I believe you can watch all the episodes for free on the Adult Swim website, http://www.adultswim.com/videos/tom-goes-to-the-mayor. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:They have not said anything about number of seasons. Remember that BB got cut short because AMC was cheaping out. What should have been two final seasons of BB were just one that was split into two. From what I understand, it's the exact opposite. AMC only cared about the bottom line, and forced Weiner and Gilligan to extend their shows beyond what they'd have preferred to do, while adding in a false split in the middle of their seasons. IIRC, Shawn Ryan (The Shield) went to twitter to complain, along with a few others.
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TGttM is good poo poo. I highly appreciate the absolute gleeful absurdity of the plot details, like the balloon race in which every character's motivation is completely inscrutable and ever-changing and there is literally no reason for anything to happen the way it does except that it's funny. How do balloons do "laps"? Why does the Sandleman forget that the race benefits his son and he asked for it in the first place? Why do they throw the kid out when throwing a shoe has a much greater effect on the outcome? It's all just so nonsensical, it's like the exact opposite of a show like BB or BCS. And Odenkirk's dumb accents are hilariously / intentionally inept.
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Data Graham posted:TGttM is good poo poo.
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sticklefifer posted:Any word on how long this show is planned to go? They have to work towards an ending eventually. Jonathan Banks is 70, and nobody else is getting any younger either, so I hope they don't try to stretch it out too long. We're a few years away from the show turning into a parody like Wet Hot American Summer. drat, I just noticed that the worst rating before this season was 1.93, and this season has been 1.81 and 1.48 so far. Guess that Gus Fring ad campaign didn't do as much for people as they'd hoped. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Data Graham posted:The way Don Eladio says pollo tan picoso makes me really wanna try that spicy chicken. Everything Don Eladio said was great, I wanted to drink that tequila so badly after he talked about it
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Listening to the podcast, I was reminded of the scene of that bridge or whatever with the runoffs under it. It looked like a miniature. Pretty cool.
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Cojawfee posted:Listening to the podcast, I was reminded of the scene of that bridge or whatever with the runoffs under it. It looked like a miniature. Pretty cool. I thought they were waaaaay too steep to climb but the he did it and I was like whoa
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Cojawfee posted:Aaron Paul is way too old to show up. It would be like when that 40 year old teenager shows up in Fast 7. We know Mike doesn't look younger than he did 10 years ago on Breaking Bad. We just have to suspend disbelief for it. We could do that for Aaron if it made sense for him to show up. Unfortunately, it doesn't. He never met Saul or Mike before BB.
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some guy on the bus posted:We know Mike doesn't look younger than he did 10 years ago on Breaking Bad. We just have to suspend disbelief for it. We could do that for Aaron if it made sense for him to show up. Unfortunately, it doesn't. He never met Saul or Mike before BB. I'm sure he got stoned and bought some chicken at some point
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I think a "Listen bitch, I want the breakfast combo. I don't care it's after 10, I want the drat breakfast burritos" or something in the background would be a sufficient. So we could get a "OH poo poo IT'S JESSE!" moment but they don't have to try the deaging that didn't work for Jimmy.
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Cojawfee posted:I think a "Listen bitch, I want the breakfast combo. I don't care it's after 10, I want the drat breakfast burritos" or something in the background would be a sufficient. So we could get a "OH poo poo IT'S JESSE!" moment but they don't have to try the deaging that didn't work for Jimmy. Only if Will Arnett also gets to be in the scene.
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I am totally fine with never seeing Jesse Pinkman or Walter White in this series.
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FogHelmut posted:I am totally fine with never seeing Jesse Pinkman or Walter White in this series. Same. Despite its problems, this is a good show and shouldn't need to rely on fan service from a better show every five seconds.
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FogHelmut posted:I am totally fine with never seeing Jesse Pinkman or Walter White in this series. I think you're just a bigot against people with colours in their surname, you surname racist you.
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What if Jimmy goes to jail and meets Kuby and/or Huell
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What if Ted becomes one of Kim's clients after Kim strikes up a friendship with Skyler? Junior can be heard asking about breakfast in the background. Edit: Maybe the case Kim could help Ted with would be a slip and fall? Nice foreshadowing! Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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FogHelmut posted:I am totally fine with never seeing Jesse Pinkman or Walter White in this series. I mean there might have been a period inbetween BCS and Breaking Bad where Walt was a...ketamine? kingpin we don't know
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