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RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Schremp Howard posted:

I doubt he had an account here I wish the guy who runs the SinBin account trumpeting Vegas would get thin skinned again and whine about what gets posted here about the team.

Would you say he was he a thorn in your side?

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Wippersnapper
Nov 1, 2003

Stealing your favourite hockey teams
...in spirit.
Good news CAS - Nikita Tryamkin is headed back to the KHL because it is impossible to have good things.

On the plus side I guess that means Gudbransson... has a place... :smith:

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

Suspicious posted:

I miss Chemmy and r-lam.

ya they were good posters even if r-lam sometimes lifted stuff from our posts for his first hockey website

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I thought this might happen. Hopefully, we learn the correct lessons from it and nobody with authority panics. I don't think we should re-sign Elliott, though. He slipped into the same bad habits that plagued him at the beginning of the season.

That said, not sure what to do about our goaltending situation. The UFA crop is mostly butts, maybe Steve Mason or Scott Darling? I'm sure both would love to be the unquestioned #1 starter, especially after what that article said the other day about what Neuvirth and Mason thought about platooning. I'd like Chad back though, he helped Calgary back to the playoffs by playing well when Elliott struggled during the season. And it gives Gillies more time to adjust to being a pro goaltender.

Mason would be worth a team rolling the dice on, I think he can still play well, he just kind of had a lovely situation this season in Philly (goaltender with a bad experience in Philly, what a surprise).

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Wippersnapper posted:

Good news CAS - Nikita Tryamkin is headed back to the KHL because it is impossible to have good things.

On the plus side I guess that means Gudbransson... has a place... :smith:

:smithicide:

He was interviewed and said it was because of his erratic ice time and the fact that he was sat for the first ten games of the season for no reason. Way to go Benning, Linden and Willie. Why do I support this team?

ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Apr 20, 2017

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Yeah someone can absolutely still get good use out of Mason. He was great for us when he was the clear cut #1. Then we went to the platoon system and oh god no :gonk:

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Teemu Pokemon posted:

r-lam was actually a cool and good poster who is actually probably the best writer on puck daddy (though that is a pretty low bar to clear) completely independent of the justified reason you have said that caused him to leave

If r-lam is the best writer by stealing jokes from goons, does that mean goons are actually the best hockey writers around?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yes, and goons are the best coaches too. And referees.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



Ryan Lambert may have okay hockey opinions but he is a terrible writer. His tweets are usually snarky and good but his columns are really painful to read.

Loqieu
Feb 27, 2001

R-lam is alright if you're fine with incessantly snarky writing by a person who can't enjoy anything. Sometimes I wonder if he actually likes watching hockey, or if it's just an excuse to complain.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



Disco Dan took another man down with him

https://twitter.com/SabresPR/status/855061977097547777

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Pegulas are really bad at running teams hahaha.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Oh drat, I didn't know Murray was on the chopping block too :stare:

E: where the hell does that leave Buffalo at this point?

Captain Internet
Apr 20, 2005

:love: HOTLANTA :love:
IS WHERE YOUR HEART IS

DJExile posted:

Oh drat, I didn't know Murray was on the chopping block too :stare:

E: where the hell does that leave Buffalo at this point?

Jack Eichel.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



DJExile posted:

E: where the hell does that leave Buffalo at this point?

Dean Lombardi and Daryl Sutter are going to grind the Sabres into paste.

stab
Feb 12, 2003

To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high

Mind_Taker posted:

Dean Lombardi and Daryl Sutter are going to grind the Sabres into paste.

you laugh, but that's actually the most logical and reasonable option for Buffalo

Loqieu
Feb 27, 2001

Eichel will be the first player-coach-gm.

fits
Jan 1, 2008

Love Always,
The Captain

i dont think so, tim

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Loqieu posted:

R-lam is alright if you're fine with incessantly snarky writing by a person who can't enjoy anything.


Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

does that mean goons are actually the best hockey writers around?

sounds about right

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



https://twitter.com/TravisSBN/status/855066386959396864

welp good luck with all of that, buffalo

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."
Man, didn't expect Murray would get the axe too. 3 years seems like a really short leash for a GM.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Thufir posted:

Man, didn't expect Murray would get the axe too. 3 years seems like a really short leash for a GM.

Especially one that is clearly rebuilding his team. He's made some bold moves and there have been missteps along the way, but I genuinely don't see what he's done to get fired here. Did Pegula really think the team would be a world beater two years after deliberately tanking a season? If anything Murray should be applauded for making them a playoff maybe in such a short timeframe.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Maybe the Sabres have an inside track on Lombardi?

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
ahaha buffalo is a joke

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

I guess Eichel was the one that got Murray's pee pee slapped in the end.

A Typical Goon posted:

Maybe the Sabres have an inside track on Lombardi?

I don't think a defence first, low event style is going to do the Sabres any favours.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

ThinkTank posted:

I don't think a defence first, low event style is going to do the Sabres any favours.

Isn't that what they were trying to play under Bylsma?

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



I'm not sure Murray deserved to be fired but I'm also not sure why he gave Ristolainen that insane contract. Ristolainen stinks and maybe Murray doesn't know how to build a defense.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Mind_Taker posted:

I'm not sure Murray deserved to be fired but I'm also not sure why he gave Ristolainen that insane contract. Ristolainen stinks and maybe Murray doesn't know how to build a defense.

What? $5.4M seems quite reasonable for a 45 point defenceman. I get that his possession stats aren't great, but c'mon.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



The Sabres spent to the cap last year and have horrible defence and goaltending. Basically all of their big contracts are bad, and their free agent signings all immediately regressed the instant they put on the jersey. The only saving grace for the Sabres is that they've been bad enough to draft high.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Thufir posted:

Man, didn't expect Murray would get the axe too. 3 years seems like a really short leash for a GM.

It's because the Pegulas are really bad nosy owners.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Koopa Kid posted:

The Sabres spent to the cap last year and have horrible defence and goaltending. Basically all of their big contracts are bad, and their free agent signings all immediately regressed the instant they put on the jersey. The only saving grace for the Sabres is that they've been bad enough to draft high.

Their goaltending was excellent for Buffalo this year.

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012

Koopa Kid posted:

The Sabres spent to the cap last year and have horrible defence and goaltending. Basically all of their big contracts are bad, and their free agent signings all immediately regressed the instant they put on the jersey. The only saving grace for the Sabres is that they've been bad enough to draft high.
They had one of the best collective save percentages in the league.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



ThinkTank posted:

What? $5.4M seems quite reasonable for a 45 point defenceman.

His offensive impact is mostly on the PP. He is absolutely brutal at even strength in terms of possession (worst on the team when adjusting for score and zone starts) and he doesn't really score a lot given his large number of minutes (90th out of 133 qualified defensemen in points/60 at 5v5, or about the same as players like Jordie Benn or Marc Methot).

I'm not really sure what they see in him to think he's a #1 defenseman, other than he seems like a fine PP QB.

Mind_Taker fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 20, 2017

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Their goaltending was excellent for Buffalo this year.

Sorry I just assumed because they were so terrible

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Mind_Taker posted:

His offensive impact is mostly on the PP. He is absolutely brutal at even strength in terms of possession and defense and he doesn't really score a lot given his large number of minutes.

I'm not really sure what they see in him to think he's a #1 defenseman.

He's not a Norris Trophy type, but there's nothing wrong with a good PPQB getting paid. There are a hell of a lot of much crappier players getting paid a bunch more. His career reminds me of Alex Edler so far. He was great offensively to start, but a real wreck in his own end. Eventually he morphed into a pure defensive guy and he's now pretty much invaluable to the Canucks back end. Edler was never a 'build your franchise around him' type, but he worked his way up the lineup to be a very respectable top pairing defenceman. I figure something similar happens to Ristolainen, and if not he's still a very good powerplay guy and that's not nothing.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Mind_Taker posted:

His offensive impact is mostly on the PP. He is absolutely brutal at even strength in terms of possession (worst on the team when adjusting for score and zone starts) and he doesn't really score a lot given his large number of minutes (90th out of 133 qualified defensemen in points/60 at 5v5).

I'm not really sure what they see in him to think he's a #1 defenseman, other than he seems like a fine PP QB.

I mean he's 22, it's reasonable to expect that he'll learn to play D eventually. He's basically just a more extreme Morgan Rielly and their contacts aren't that different.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

If he didn't play 26 minutes a night with the toughest zone stsrts on the team he'd probably be a bit better!

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

xzzy posted:

Yes, and goons are the best coaches too. And referees.

Definitely the last part

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
Maybe Pegula wanted Disco gone earlier or even now and Murray stood by him too long. Sheri suffered the same fate when he didn't can Bylsma after the philly series.

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Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



ThinkTank posted:

He's not a Norris Trophy type, but there's nothing wrong with a good PPQB getting paid. There are a hell of a lot of much crappier players getting paid a bunch more. His career reminds me of Alex Edler so far. He was great offensively to start, but a real wreck in his own end. Eventually he morphed into a pure defensive guy and he's now pretty much invaluable to the Canucks back end. Edler was never a 'build your franchise around him' type, but he worked his way up the lineup to be a very respectable top pairing defenceman. I figure something similar happens to Ristolainen, and if not he's still a very good powerplay guy and that's not nothing.

Being a good PP QB is not nothing, but it can't be everything either for that contract. He's a complete wreck at everything else and makes his teammates worse at even strength.

Maybe it turns around for him under a new coach, but committing to him for that long and for that much seems like a overreaction to the PK Subban contract situation in Montreal rather than making an accurate evaluation of the player and making a good gamble.

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