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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

pig slut lisa posted:

Here's an interesting one. In summary:
  • Startup decides to change their URL to something shorter. However, this involves switching from a .com address to a much less common .co address.
  • Startup decides that $10,000 is a reasonable price to pay for their desired URL, and puts in a bid at that price (instead of starting below their target). The bid is immediately accepted with no counteroffer. Great negotiating, fellas!
  • Startup realizes they have to spend an unbudgeted $1,200 on new Google Apps accounts for everyone.
  • Startup fucks up their domain migration (idk how, I'm not a YOSPOS brain, you can read about it here), resulting in a precipitous drop in their search traffic as people can't find the new website.

The full story:





Far from the worst story in this thread, but still a lot of :doh: going on.

Oh man, /r/startups is a goldmine.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

The Lemondrop Dandy posted:

The moral of that story is if you are cheating the feds and other folks/family can prove it, don't piss off those other folks/family!

More lawbreaking is found through pissed-off ex-spouses, ex-lovers, former business partners, and estranged family than you'd think. Especially white collar poo poo like in the story.

Fraud is fascinating.

A family friend's sister is married to a guy who owns a very successful roofing business and doesn't declare all his income. They've been separated for 8 years and he still gives her tens of thousands of dollars every month for exactly that reason.

Seems like it would be cheaper to just not cheat on taxes and/or spouses.

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

Krispy Kareem posted:

A family friend's sister is married to a guy who owns a very successful roofing business and doesn't declare all his income. They've been separated for 8 years and he still gives her tens of thousands of dollars every month for exactly that reason.

Seems like it would be cheaper to just not cheat on taxes and/or spouses.

It's the principle of the thing. :colbert:

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Krispy Kareem posted:

A family friend's sister is married to a guy who owns a very successful roofing business and doesn't declare all his income. They've been separated for 8 years and he still gives her tens of thousands of dollars every month for exactly that reason.

Seems like it would be cheaper to just not cheat on taxes and/or spouses.

I'm guessing she's not declaring this mystery income, so why not blackmail them both for some extra cash?

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

BWM thread in a nutshell

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

Barry posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/668da4/scumbag_aunt_ripped_off_my_grandma_for_years_i/

It's long and I don't feel like spending 10 minutes reformatting the OP so just click the link. Solid BWM on the Aunt's part.

Goddamn this had me heavy breathing by the end.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Youth Decay posted:

BWM thread in a nutshell


More like BFC in a nutshell

Dogcow
Jun 21, 2005

Youth Decay posted:

BWM thread in a nutshell


I wanted to know what "rag money" referred to and it's an old timey version of buttcoiner's "fiat money!!!!!!", though of course that was actually a legit thing in 1875. Googling "rag money" however also resulted in getting an ad for the official BWM thread headwear:



Also a new opportunity for dropship guy :v:

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Barry posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/668da4/scumbag_aunt_ripped_off_my_grandma_for_years_i/

It's long and I don't feel like spending 10 minutes reformatting the OP so just click the link. Solid BWM on the Aunt's part.

You should have NSFWed this, 'cause it's absolutely pornographic :awesome:

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

Dogcow posted:

I wanted to know what "rag money" referred to and it's an old timey version of buttcoiner's "fiat money!!!!!!", though of course that was actually a legit thing in 1875. Googling "rag money" however also resulted in getting an ad for the official BWM thread headwear:



Also a new opportunity for dropship guy :v:

I unironically wear this at work as I lecture my colleagues about personal finance.

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004

theHUNGERian posted:

Hold my beer, buckle up, and swallow whatever is in your mouth.

My landlady picked me because of my horoscope, I poo poo you not. She asked me for my birthday (date, time, location), went to her PC where she entered the data, uttered a few 'ooohhhs' and 'aaaahhhs', and told me she would rent the place to me. She then also explained the reasoning in more detail. Apparently the planets were aligned in a certain way that makes me a character that she is comfortable renting to. I had just finished a BS in physics and I was about to start my MS/PhD work in EE, so it was hard to keep a straight face, but I must have managed.

In the end, it worked out for her, because 10 years later, she is still my landlady.

Same landlady also planned her wedding in such a way that the "Yes I do" would happen a very specific time (down to the exact minute) because of her and her partner's horoscopes.
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004

legendof posted:

BWM: buying a $400 machine to squeeze juice of a proprietary, QR code-locked bag you can only buy through a subscription service you're only eligible for after buying the $400 bag-squeezer. But don't worry, the machine used to be $700 so it's a great deal!

https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/04/this-400-appliance-that-squeezes-juice-out-of-a-bag-appears-unnecessary/
OH poo poo, this is really BWM. Not the dumb loving machine, the company promised investors (which included alphabet) a machine that will cold press fruit and veg. What they delivered was a piece of poo poo machine that squeezes poo poo for you out of a bag of reconstituted juice.

This is a really good scam.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
Remember rent-to-own dogs?


They've filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy.

https://www.inforuptcy.com/filings/nvbke_362954-3-17-bk-50480-wags-lending-llc

BWM: subprime loans for mittens the cat

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

Suspicious Lump posted:

OH poo poo, this is really BWM. Not the dumb loving machine, the company promised investors (which included alphabet) a machine that will cold press fruit and veg. What they delivered was a piece of poo poo machine that squeezes poo poo for you out of a bag of reconstituted juice.

This is a really good scam.

I am rooting for them. Not because their product is good, but because their VC's bought it. I want to go work for them at a high level. They've had 4 rounds where they've convinced people to invest $116MM including Kleiner Perkins (You will recognize logos of some small companies they've put money into: http://www.kpcb.com/companies ) All of this making a vaporware product that is literally a keurig machine if keurig machines took Starbucks DoubleShot cans.

Count me in.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k&ICID=ref_fark

quote:

A three-year-old girl has been left traumatised by the loss of her pony after American fighter jets were seen flying low near his field.

'After that it all happened so quickly, the emergency vet was called and it took five people to get the pony back in the yard, but it was too late, he had twisted his gut and died before the vet could arrive.

The pony probably farted and was scared by the noise. Of course that results in a twisted gut.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
As an indulgence when I get off from call I'm going to treat myself to a unicorn frappucino. That will be my BWM for the day.

Poldarn
Feb 18, 2011

Mr. Fix It posted:

You should have NSFWed this, 'cause it's absolutely pornographic :awesome:

I have a short attention span and don't usually read things that long, but, uh, yeah :awesome:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Youth Decay posted:

BWM thread in a nutshell


Ha Ha yeah don't you dare vote for good policy you drat poors get back to the factories and quit your loving complaining

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


ate all the Oreos posted:

Ha Ha yeah don't you dare vote for good policy you drat poors get back to the factories and quit your loving complaining

And don't run for public office either, you drat layabouts! :argh:

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

ate all the Oreos posted:

Ha Ha yeah don't you dare vote for good policy you drat poors get back to the factories and quit your loving complaining
"The Credit System" is my favorite, assuming that actually refers to the concept of having credit to purchase things with and not some olde-timey euphemisme.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

legendof posted:

BWM: buying a $400 machine to squeeze juice of a proprietary, QR code-locked bag you can only buy through a subscription service you're only eligible for after buying the $400 bag-squeezer. But don't worry, the machine used to be $700 so it's a great deal!

https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/04/this-400-appliance-that-squeezes-juice-out-of-a-bag-appears-unnecessary/

Holy poo poo

quote:

The person also argued that using the $400 juicer is cleaner and easier than squeezing the bags by hand.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
Why even squeeze it.

Just poke a hole in the bag with a straw and have an adult, overpriced capri sun

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Renegret posted:

Why even squeeze it.

Just poke a hole in the bag with a straw and have an adult, overpriced capri sun

Because it's literally a plastic bag with fruit and vegetable bits sealed inside, that is squeezed into juice by the machine.

So you're paying $8 or $10 a pop for a bag of fruits and vegetables shipped to you from California that makes one single serving of juice

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

ate all the Oreos posted:

Because it's literally a plastic bag with fruit and vegetable bits sealed inside, that is squeezed into juice by the machine.

So you're paying $8 or $10 a pop for a bag of fruits and vegetables shipped to you from California that makes one single serving of juice

And each serving costs as much as going to a fancy juice place and getting a juice made from real fresh fruit.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006

ate all the Oreos posted:

Because it's literally a plastic bag with fruit and vegetable bits sealed inside, that is squeezed into juice by the machine.

So you're paying $8 or $10 a pop for a bag of fruits and vegetables shipped to you from California that makes one single serving of juice

These are people accustomed to shopping at whole foods where that is actually a discount.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
The fact that Whole Food stays in business is a perfect illustration of why Econ 101 doesn't apply in the real world.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

FrozenVent posted:

The fact that Whole Food stays in business is a perfect illustration of why Econ 101 doesn't apply in the real world.

And yet I was just reading in either WSJ or Barron's that activist investors are looking to buy into Whole Foods.

Apparently, despite charging a shitload for everything they're BWM and having a hard time sustaining profits.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

ate all the Oreos posted:

Because it's literally a plastic bag with fruit and vegetable bits sealed inside, that is squeezed into juice by the machine.

Or so they claim.

If you can squeeze it like that by hand then it's just a bag of juice.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!
I think someone needs to do the needful and buy a $400 machine and a $10 bag to cut it open and put this to rest.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

you first

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

FrozenVent posted:

The fact that Whole Food stays in business is a perfect illustration of why Econ 101 doesn't apply in the real world.

They actually had a big study disproving modern economics recently based on a similar methodology.

quote:

Study: Edible Arrangements Disproves Central Tenets Of Capitalism

WALLINGFORD, CT—Upending more than two centuries of free-market theory, leading economists across the globe announced Thursday that the fundamental principles of capitalism had been "irrefutably disproved" by the continued existence of the designer fruit-basket company Edible Arrangements.

According to experts, the Connecticut-based franchise, which arranges skewered pieces of fruit into displays vaguely resembling floral bouquets, has defied all modern economic models, expanding continuously for the past decade despite its complete lack of any discernible consumer appeal.

"In theory, the market should have done away with Edible Arrangements long ago," said American Economic Association president Orley Ashenfelter, who added that one of the crucial assumptions of capitalism is the idea that businesses producing undesired goods or services will fail. "That's how it's supposed to work. Yet somehow, despite offering no product of any worth whatsoever, this company not only makes payroll every week, but also generates strong profits."

"It's mind-boggling," Ashenfelter continued. "I honestly have never even heard the name Edible Arrangements mentioned in conversation before. Seriously, has anyone?"

Upon examining the so-called Edible Arrangements paradox, economists worldwide have abandoned many of the ideas that have dominated economic thought since the time of Adam Smith, arguing that the forces of supply and demand are powerless to explain the company's 45-piece line of officially licensed NASCAR-themed fruit bouquets.

"To understand this enigma, we must discard the naïve notion that free-market prices reflect what consumers are willing to pay," Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz said. "Otherwise, how else are we to rationalize the phenomenon of a human being willingly spending 84 bucks on 18 green apple wedges and a Mylar balloon?"

An unofficial survey conducted by Stiglitz found that not one of the AEA's 18,000 members had ever purchased or received an Edible Arrangement or knew of anyone who had, indicating that the franchise was operating in "some advanced realm of economics" in which the so-called profit motive no longer applied.

Even many of the nation's staunchest neoliberal economists, who have long advocated laissez-faire policies, acknowledged that the ideas of F.A. Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman cannot account for how Edible Arrangements operates from more than 1,000 locations in 13 countries, including Hong Kong, Italy, India, and Kuwait.

"Clearly the invisible hand has led us astray when it allows for the continued existence of a store that manufactures 'Sympathy Blossoms' of chocolate-dipped orange slices for funerals and wakes," said N. Gregory Mankiw, a former economic adviser to George W. Bush. "And when people are buying 3,000 'Orange You Gonna Feel Better Soon?' bouquets a day, the idea of consumers as 'rational actors' goes out the window pretty fast."

Harboring doubts that such a business could generate $200 million in annual revenue, the Department of Commerce last year launched an investigation into whether Edible Arrangements served as a front for some sort of illicit trade. Internal reports reveal agents uncovered nothing illegal, and were instead "absolutely stunned" to find real, functioning storefronts with paid employees, computers for tracking actual orders, and stockrooms packed with honeydew melon balls and pineapple slices cut into the shape of butterflies.

"It defies all logic," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said of the company's gift bouquets. "These things are like six pounds of cantaloupe—who could possibly eat that much? And they're already cut up, so you have to eat them quick or throw the whole thing out. For Christ's sake, Americans don't even eat fruit."

In spite of lingering bewilderment at the company's success, economists have reportedly pledged to work together to develop a new and more encompassing theory of global markets

"Right now, we just have to accept the fact that Edible Arrangements exists and is, somehow, a part of our current economic reality," said Ashenfelter, while perusing the company's online store. "Besides, my mom's birthday is coming up and, now that I'm seeing these, I think she might really like this one with the teddy bear on it."

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Dick Nipples posted:

And yet I was just reading in either WSJ or Barron's that activist investors are looking to buy into Whole Foods.

Apparently, despite charging a shitload for everything they're BWM and having a hard time sustaining profits.

I thought I read somewhere that they're trying to cut prices.

Which makes sense. Sprouts is muscling in on their territory so they need to find some way to keep people coming into the door. I was kind of surprised at how inexpensive most of the stuff was at Sprouts. You still had higher margin and luxury items, but you could walk out of there for a reasonable amount. At Whole Foods everything is expensive.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They actually had a big study disproving modern economics recently based on a similar methodology.

"Study: Edible Arrangements Disproves Central Tenets Of Capitalism" sounds like a lovely Onion article.

"Why would anyone buy loving fruit on a stick for someone else" claimed one researcher. "I mean who wants fruit for a present??" At press time, the researchers were still attempting to find someone to eat the hard green melon pieces that might be honeydew.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

ate all the Oreos posted:

"Study: Edible Arrangements Disproves Central Tenets Of Capitalism" sounds like a lovely Onion article.

"Why would anyone buy loving fruit on a stick for someone else" claimed one researcher. "I mean who wants fruit for a present??" At press time, the researchers were still attempting to find someone to eat the hard green melon pieces that might be honeydew.

:thejoke:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Oh. It literally is a lovely onion article.

Well at least I'm getting good at catching them in the wild.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


It didn't end with "at press time" that threw me off :argh:

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

ate all the Oreos posted:

"Study: Edible Arrangements Disproves Central Tenets Of Capitalism" sounds like a lovely Onion article.

"Why would anyone buy loving fruit on a stick for someone else" claimed one researcher. "I mean who wants fruit for a present??" At press time, the researchers were still attempting to find someone to eat the hard green melon pieces that might be honeydew.

Ha ha nice catch.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
e: NEVERMIND I SHOULD REFRESH THE PAGE SOMETIMES HUH

Coca Koala
Nov 28, 2005

ongoing nowhere
College Slice

ate all the Oreos posted:

"Study: Edible Arrangements Disproves Central Tenets Of Capitalism" sounds like a lovely Onion article.

Listen you're joking but when I was just out of college and living with some friends, one of my housemate's moms would send us Edible Arrangements for random-rear end holidays and they loving rocked because we were all very poor and where the hell else was I going to get my fix of pineapple?

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therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

Renegret posted:

Or so they claim.

If you can squeeze it like that by hand then it's just a bag of juice.

Look we have a great product that people are going to want. Stop being such a juice bag about it!

therobit fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Apr 20, 2017

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