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DragQueenofAngmar posted:why Kinda wondering about that myself. Like, I really like to gently caress but I don't know if a kid needs to know that or be told?
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Charles Get-Out posted:This is what I'm feeling. While I kind of understand his desire to care for his brother, both of his parents are around and it sounds like his GF actually needs the help. Either way, he's def stuck up his parents rear end too much. I was on his side up until I saw that comment and now I kind of think the dude is a creep. I think Tiny Deer hit the nail on the head when she says this guy has A Type, and I think his jealousy has less to do with there being another man helping her out, and more to do with her not being completely and utterly dependent on him. His weird relationship with his parents and the gaslighting are a big  to me.It's great that he's taking care of his brother but he should probably be in a relationship with somebody who is not going to depend on him to be able to make it through their day to day life. I get the feeling that probably doesn't do it for him, though. A Wizard of Goatse posted:i feel like there ought to be a reasonable middle between these two but I'm not sure I've ever actually seen it  Panfilo posted:I don't think it unreasonable someone talks to their parents every day;my wife talks to her parents very often and visits them multiple times a week. They're also awesome inlaws that have been very helpful and supportive so it's cool that they are close. the issue isn't just that he talks to them every day, it's that he talks to them every day and lies to her about it it's really questionable behavior. it'd be one thing if he was just like "Yeah, I'm sorry babe, I gotta help with my bro" but he's making her question her reality which is potentially abusive behavior. The frequency of contact with his parents is also indicative of co-dependence, which is also another checkmark in the "potential abuser" list imo Mirthless fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 17:14
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:why Makes the other person feel attractive and wanted in a public way? Its no hundred doves and bended knee on our rome vacation but its a relationship reinforcer. Usually not so blunt as "gonna gulp that dick, kiddo" but, hey.
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I only make love to my wife when my infant child and the beetles are in the room with us. Beetles are inherently atrocious lover and i won't let my inescapably caucasoid lovechild grow up not knowing how to slang dick like a short order cook at a gently caress buffet.
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Barudak posted:Makes the other person feel attractive and wanted in a public way? Its no hundred doves and bended knee on our rome vacation but its a relationship reinforcer. Usually not so blunt as "gonna gulp that dick, kiddo" but, hey. do this around peers then, instead of minors, and your child, who has asked you to not talk about your sex life around them seriously, why is that so much to ask? she's obviously already aware they're into each other
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Mirthless posted:
Where do you draw the line? Like is it cool for them to talk about how great the mom is at sucking cock and guzzling cum in front of their daughter?
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it's oversharing but it's a better example than bitterly sniping at each other because they can't keep their simmering contempt to themselves anymore
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Captain Yossarian posted:Kinda wondering about that myself. Like, I really like to gently caress but I don't know if a kid needs to know that or be told?
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Who What Now posted:Where do you draw the line? Like is it cool for them to talk about how great the mom is at sucking cock and guzzling cum in front of their daughter? i think we have established at this point that a 14 y/o is not a reliable narrator to begin with and even their exaggerated account didn't go that far
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Mirthless posted:I was on his side up until I saw that comment and now I kind of think the dude is a creep. I think Tiny Deer hit the nail on the head when she says this guy has A Type, and I think his jealousy has less to do with there being another man helping her out, and more to do with her not being completely and utterly dependent on him. His weird relationship with his parents and the gaslighting are a big Yeouch this is prob right on the money. I guess the bright side is that if she  s him, his brother has his parents and she still has her ex to care for them
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Mirthless posted:i think we have established at this point that a 14 y/o is not a reliable narrator to begin with and even their exaggerated account didn't go that far Talking about smashing puss isn't all that different than talking about sucking dick.
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Tiny Deer posted:Nah he's unemployed and lives off her money. I think the parents probably see asking their son to be a caretaker as his "job" (since he's an "artist"), like his part of sharing the load. But his gf needs him too, and she especially needs him now because the months directly after becoming handicapped are extremely hard for people. They see their lives fall apart. There's a lot of Disney Feeling about disability, and people live with this cutesy vision. Actually, it really does ruin your life, and people will avoid you as long as you live. If you are handicapped in any way that can be hidden, you absolutely hide it.
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Mirthless posted:I was on his side up until I saw that comment and now I kind of think the dude is a creep. I think Tiny Deer hit the nail on the head when she says this guy has A Type, and I think his jealousy has less to do with there being another man helping her out, and more to do with her not being completely and utterly dependent on him. His weird relationship with his parents and the gaslighting are a big "Artists" and "sensitive types" are always on the lookout for this kind of situation, and it's... a complicated phenomenon. We know the upshots of caring for others, in principle, so I don't see a need to elaborate on why caring for other people is good. But there is a kind of person who is a "caretaker" so they can be a martyr, or more importantly as a way to dismiss all criticism of themselves (including legitimate criticism about needing to get one's own life together). Often, women do this (guilty as charged), but yeah, it's complicated.
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Pick posted:I think the parents probably see asking their son to be a caretaker as his "job" (since he's an "artist"), like his part of sharing the load. But his gf needs him too, and she especially needs him now because the months directly after becoming handicapped are extremely hard for people. They see their lives fall apart. There's a lot of Disney Feeling about disability, and people live with this cutesy vision. Actually, it really does ruin your life, and people will avoid you as long as you live. If you are handicapped in any way that can be hidden, you absolutely hide it. She doesnt mention that her epilepsy is a recent development, unless I missed it.
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Like if someone broke into their house and murdered the brother, they'd all be sad, and then they truly would all have better lives. People talk about the joy of parenthood all the time and of course as an unfeeling robot, I do not understand this, but do you really get the same joy when you're not actually raising a child, just watching him get larger? Is a 30-year old infant anything but a black hole of happiness for everyone around them? This is in obvious contrast with his girlfriend who needs help but is a fully-realized person with emotions and desires and dreams and all that. I smell a goon project - this is my hot dog man.
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Who What Now posted:She doesnt mention that her epilepsy is a recent development, unless I missed it. Comments.
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I'ma go on record and say that being severely handicapped loving sucks and that if your partner isn't there for you it's a huge letdown
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Like if someone broke into their house and murdered the brother, they'd all be sad, and then they truly would all have better lives. People talk about the joy of parenthood all the time and of course as an unfeeling robot, I do not understand this, but do you really get the same joy when you're not actually raising a child, just watching him get larger? Is a 30-year old infant anything but a black hole of happiness for everyone around them? it would be better for everyone involved, including the disabled brother, if he was put in a home where professionals would take care of him
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:it would be better for everyone involved, including the disabled brother, if he was put in a home where professionals would take care of him Or at the very least had professional home care
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Who What Now posted:Talking about smashing puss isn't all that different than talking about sucking dick. okay, here's the relevant part of the post: quote:now this wouldnt even be that huge of an issue but it becomes really annoying when we are out in public like in Tesco (uk walmart) they just start going it at and it makes me feel like the whole place is watching us in disgust gross, my parents kiss and touch each other in public quote:another thing is when we are out in a group they sometimes make super inappropiate comments like "i cant wait for (dads name) to destroy me tonight" and "im totally destroying ((mums name)) tonight" and she just responds with "cant wait" in front of 10 people and they just both laugh about it like its totally fine gross, when we're out with other adults my parents discuss their sex life with other adults also gross: they have sex in the house when I am in another part of the house quote:when i tried to sit them down my father just said that my mum is just too damm hot and he cant resist her and my mother gave me a similar answer and they just brushed it off and totally disregarded what i just said gross, when i tell my parents to stop loving each other they tell me they can't help it, they just love each other too much
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Who What Now posted:Where do you draw the line? Like is it cool for them to talk about how great the mom is at sucking cock and guzzling cum in front of their daughter? that's probably past the point of being appropriate, but I also will put "parents overshare sex life in stable happy marriage" at like the bottom of the priority list of things that will actually gently caress up a kid so this is pretty much just hilarious to me.
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Mirthless posted:
this is the hosed up one dude. there is no reason not to restrain yourself when you have your 14 year old tagging along with you
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Mirthless posted:okay, here's the relevant part of the post: Yeah, they talk about how the dad is going to destroy that pussy later. Thats way over the line of inapropriateness to say to your underage daughter. Or your adult daughter, for that matter.
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Who What Now posted:She doesnt mention that her epilepsy is a recent development, unless I missed it. Not in the OP. In the comments she elaborates that she had epilepsy prior but recently it worsened severely. She used to be able to function more or less independently and now she can't even make her kid a grilled cheese sandwich without a seizure buddy. She's just really frustrated with this guy and I can't blame her, she must be very scared about her future and she's not wrong to be scared. As for this guy, she used to need him juuust enough to make him wanted, but now she needs him and there aren't enough hours in the day to look after her and his family. He's probably scrambling hard and lying because he feels guilty about how overextended he is. He doesn't sound like a sinister rear end in a top hat, he sounds like someone who cares a lot and can't step back to realize he can't do literally everything people ask of him. He's going to pick his family, in the end. He's not even wrong to do that. It's just...really brutal.
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Telling your kid you're gonna smash his mom super hard seems borne of some weird jealousy or something from the father to me.Who What Now posted:Yeah, they talk about how the dad is going to destroy that pussy later. Thats way over the line of inapropriateness to say to your underage daughter. Or your adult daughter, for that matter. Yeah that's weird.
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COMRADES posted:Telling your kid you're gonna smash his mom super hard seems borne of some weird jealousy from the father to me. Like 'you may be younger and on your way up while I'm older and on the way down but I still get my dick wet in your mom' idk. I think the simpler answer is she gives an over the top reaction and he is doing it to get a rise out of her. again, in the grand scheme of "things that will harm a child" this is below like "missed all my track meets"
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:this is the hosed up one dude. there is no reason not to restrain yourself when you have your 14 year old tagging along with you Who What Now posted:Yeah, they talk about how the dad is going to destroy that pussy later. Thats way over the line of inapropriateness to say to your underage daughter. Or your adult daughter, for that matter. yeah you guys are assuming they're just all standing around with her nearby and just start talking about loving I get the feeling this is more like a "we went out to somebody's barbecue and I walked into the kitchen and they were talking about loving!" WoodrowSkillson posted:I think the simpler answer is she gives an over the top reaction and he is doing it to get a rise out of her. again, in the grand scheme of "things that will harm a child" this is below like "missed all my track meets" yeah, or it's this, which is equally likely it sounds to me like she would be just as offended and grossed out if they never talked about it around her or used much more coded euphemisms
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Gloryhold It! posted:Or at the very least had professional home care would that even matter? the OP could be exaggerating but she described the brother as mentally an infant, not even aware of his surroundings in a meaningful way. it doesn't really sound like he even has the capacity to miss his family
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I think the simpler answer is she gives an over the top reaction and he is doing it to get a rise out of her. again, in the grand scheme of "things that will harm a child" this is below like "missed all my track meets" It probably won't gently caress her up for life, no, but its still weird and gross. There's ways to tease your kid without detailing how you're gonna rail their mom later.
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Who What Now posted:She doesnt mention that her epilepsy is a recent development, unless I missed it. It's been lifelong, but has apparently gotten worse. quote:Probably am in denial. I'm starting therapy soon because while I've always had epilepsy I have never in my life not been functional until a few months ago. Used to be I'd have a seizure a few times a day, now if I'm off medicine I'm in status epilepticus until I'm on a massive dose again. And a massive dose just gives me daily seizures and stops the status. I am struggling a lot and suffering and I need therapy. And look, even if this guy didn't have the Caregiver Complex, you'd think it would be important to be especially present for your partner in what probably the most emotionally difficult point of her life as she comes to terms with the fact that her life as she knew it is probably over. Surely Mom and Dad can hire some help, or maybe postpone their vacation?
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Who What Now posted:It probably won't gently caress her up for life, no, but its still weird and gross. There's ways to tease your kid without detailing how you're gonna rail their mom later. sure, but that's not this dude's style, and here we are with the chance to laugh at this teen stuck in a living hell of parents that like get down
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Tiny Deer posted:Not in the OP. In the comments she elaborates that she had epilepsy prior but recently it worsened severely. She used to be able to function more or less independently and now she can't even make her kid a grilled cheese sandwich without a seizure buddy. It is wrong to do that imo. He can never help his brother. He can help his partner, and a child.
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Who What Now posted:It probably won't gently caress her up for life, no, but its still weird and gross. There's ways to tease your kid without detailing how you're gonna rail their mom later. lol but that's not what's happening, even her account doesn't say that: quote:another thing is when we are out in a group they sometimes make super inappropiate comments like "i cant wait for (dads name) to destroy me tonight" and "im totally destroying ((mums name)) tonight" and she just responds with "cant wait" in front of 10 people and they just both laugh about it like its totally fine she is eavesdropping on adult conversations and getting mad at her dad and mom making sex jokes with a group of their adult friends here's the language they use when they address her directly: quote:when i tried to sit them down my father just said that my mum is just too damm hot and he cant resist her and my mother gave me a similar answer and they just brushed it off and totally disregarded what i just said Mirthless fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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COMRADES posted:Telling your kid you're gonna smash his mom super hard seems borne of some weird jealousy or something from the father to me. Nah, it helps discourage teenagers from having sex since during Sexy times will keep reminding them about their dad wanting to smash the mom (with his penis)
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Pick posted:It is wrong to do that imo. He can never help his brother. He can help his partner, and a child. This is actually a pretty great point. Emotionally, though, it sounds like his parents have gotten him really invested in his brother so they can foist him off on their other child when they want to gently caress off to Europe for a while. poo poo situation all round imo.
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:would that even matter? the OP could be exaggerating but she described the brother as mentally an infant, not even aware of his surroundings in a meaningful way. it doesn't really sound like he even has the capacity to miss his family It'd be better than what they have, and I'm guessing that the parents wouldn't be keen on shoving him into a home. It's a poo poo situation all around
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Who What Now posted:It probably won't gently caress her up for life, no, but its still weird and gross. There's ways to tease your kid without detailing how you're gonna rail their mom later. Making inappropriate sexual comments in front of your child is technically (TECHNICALLY MEANS I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW YOUR DAD TALKED ABOUT loving YOUR MOM'S EARHOLE IN BDSM ORGIES AND IT DIDN'T MAKE YOU hosed UP SO IT'S FINE FOR EVERYONE) a form of abuse. It's involving your child in your sex life. Like it's extremely mild and in the absence of anything else it's just inappropriate, but don't talk about how you gently caress with your kids. Don't tell them how you love to gently caress. 'I love your mom and find her attractive" is worlds from 'your mom is too drat hot for me to consider your feelings, young teen just beginning to discover her own sexuality and going through deep uncertainty about how to navigate it'. At the very best it's plain rude and disrespectful. Shut up about that how hot you are for each other until the kid is out of earshot. It makes her uncomfortable and she told you that. Cut it out.
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Tiny Deer posted:Making inappropriate sexual comments in front of your child is technically (TECHNICALLY MEANS I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW YOUR DAD TALKED ABOUT loving YOUR MOM'S EARHOLE IN BDSM ORGIES AND IT DIDN'T MAKE YOU hosed UP SO IT'S FINE FOR EVERYONE) a form of abuse. It's involving your child in your sex life. yep
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Mirthless posted:lol but that's not what's happening, even her account doesn't say that: Why are they making sex jokes in front of kids? That's weird and gross.
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