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pentyne posted:Juicing as an obsession is such a urban white people dieting fad. They want to tout the merits of juicing as some cure-all when without consuming the skin and pulp you're losing out on a huge amount of the nutritional value of the produce. The only juicing site/blog I ever saw that made me think "hey maybe this isn't a bad idea" was someone who took all the leftover pulp and used it as a cooking ingredient in soups, omelettes, baking etc. because otherwise you are throwing away 90% of the edible material. Just put the whole fruit into a blender and make a smoothie 
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actionjackson posted:Just put the whole fruit into a blender and make a smoothie too many toxins
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boner confessor posted:too many toxins I would say that the next startup should be some kind of bullshit device that removes nebulous, undefined "toxins" from foods, but surely someone has already done it.
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Commissar Kayla posted:I would say that the next startup should be some kind of bullshit device that removes nebulous, undefined "toxins" from foods, but surely someone has already done it. thats like the entire homeopathic / naturalist health industry also those crazy $3,000 ionic water filters
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actionjackson posted:Just put the whole fruit into a blender and make a smoothie But then you have to clean a blender, that's way too much work.
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boner confessor posted:thats like the entire homeopathic / naturalist health industry I'd pay for an ironic water filter. Not $3,000, though.
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pentyne posted:Juicing as an obsession is such a urban white people dieting fad. They want to tout the merits of juicing as some cure-all when without consuming the skin and pulp you're losing out on a huge amount of the nutritional value of the produce. The only juicing site/blog I ever saw that made me think "hey maybe this isn't a bad idea" was someone who took all the leftover pulp and used it as a cooking ingredient in soups, omelettes, baking etc. because otherwise you are throwing away 90% of the edible material. Definitely the only niche for the product according to that article: quote:Kippy Williams, owner of Kippy’s Organic Non-Dairy Ice Cream Shop in Los Angeles and Toyko, said she purchased her Juicero late last year for $1,200. (Juicero charges businesses a premium, she said.) Williams, a self-proclaimed health-food evangelist, said she’d like to see the company sell packs by themselves to people who can’t afford the device. “It would be great if they offered people the opportunity to buy the packs and press them by hand,” she said. “I want juice for every man, woman and child.”  I remember when this device was being discussed in this thread months ago, and I know it's common knowledge that venture capitalists are loving idiots just like the rest of us and are bored enough with life to toss money at anything, but man his entire justification for why this device is awesome was "anyone can measure juice, but how can you measure ki? How can you measure energy?" Like he got $120 million just from that. 
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Would be interested to know what the rough investor breakdown is between "we're dupes" and "there are a lot of affluent juicing dupes out there".
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The only good thing about Juicero is that it would bring juicing culture to more rich idiots and hopefully they would pull a Steve Jobs.
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boner confessor posted:thats like the entire homeopathic / naturalist health industry Okay, true, but has someone rebranded it missing an vowel yet? Ntrl+, the app where you plug in your symptoms, and our proprietary formula that is not at all a random generator tells you what is wrong with you and then gives you ALL NATURAL recommendations. The app itself can be free. Make money from supplement companies by charging to discreetly improve their chances of coming up in the random generator of supplements. "You said you feel tired. You may have [thyroid/chakra/testosterone/mysterious energy] imbalances and a buildup of toxins. You should treat this with [herbs/vitamin macrodosing/ionic water filter/yoga/homeopathic nightshade]." (Also, goddammit, I forgot about the stupid ionic water filters.)
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Paracaidas posted:Venture Vulture Capitalist, after ACHA posted: Actually it's more like "we'll take over 100% of your income in health insurance premiums and then we dump you if you actually get sick."
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Antti posted:Actually it's more like "we'll take over 100% of your income in health insurance premiums and then we dump you if you actually get sick." Seriously. 5% of lifetime earnings would be a steal in comparison. For the average family making 50k per year working for 47 years will make $2.35 million. 5% of that is $117500 which is much less than a lot of cancer treatments. Current average premium per year for a family that has employer coverage is about $4700 or $235k over the same frame. Include the employer portion of it and the insurance itself would cost $814,134.
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Raldikuk posted:Seriously. 5% of lifetime earnings would be a steal in comparison. For the average family making 50k per year working for 47 years will make $2.35 million. 5% of that is $117500 which is much less than a lot of cancer treatments. Current average premium per year for a family that has employer coverage is about $4700 or $235k over the same frame. Include the employer portion of it and the insurance itself would cost $814,134.
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Raldikuk posted:Seriously. 5% of lifetime earnings would be a steal in comparison. For the average family making 50k per year working for 47 years will make $2.35 million. 5% of that is $117500 which is much less than a lot of cancer treatments. Current average premium per year for a family that has employer coverage is about $4700 or $235k over the same frame. Include the employer portion of it and the insurance itself would cost $814,134. Wage growth against premium growth would muddle this. And there'd be adverse selection as well.
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I think that 5% of the lifetime earnings of most people is actually less than the cost of cancer treatment. edit: Which is why a bunch of these contracts would be bundled up and divided into tranches and sold to other investors. I am a genius.
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These juice hustler guys are dumb as hell, they should be lying about how important it is to slow-pour and aerate juice
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Ytlaya posted:edit: Which is why a bunch of these contracts would be bundled up and divided into tranches and sold to other investors. I am a genius. So they're not loanly
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I'm surprised no one has tried that already.
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exmarx posted:These juice hustler guys are dumb as hell, they should be lying about how important it is to slow-pour and aerate juice gotta enrich the juice with nutritious ions and free-radicals from the air we breathe
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Apr 20, 2017 09:15
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To be fair, there are research departments that might like this for the teaspoons.
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https://www.amazon.com/Quirky-Minder-Wink-Enabled-Smart/dp/B00GN92KQ4
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https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-DCH-S160-mydlink-Wi-Fi-Sensor/dp/B00PVDUYPM
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That seems actually useful if way overpriced.
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shrike82 posted:That seems actually useful if way overpriced. Yeah, I'd love to know right away if my basement started flooding.
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Let me guess, you're a renter?
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a foolish pianist posted:Yeah, I'd love to know right away if my basement started flooding.
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This is the best internet of things thing I've seen. Think I will buy one for my mom's birthday as their basement floods sometimes.
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nm posted:This is the best internet of things thing I've seen. Think I will buy one for my mom's birthday as their basement floods sometimes. I might get one too, it actually sounds useful beyond a normal local water alarm
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Neo Rasa posted:venture capitalists are loving idiots just like the rest of us and are bored enough with life to toss money at anything 
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Subjunctive is a loving idiot like the rest of us and only throws his clients' money at things he believes will return a profit.
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Subjunctive do you want to fund my innovative product that will disrupt the juicero model? They are called j-loves. They are juicing gloves.
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No. But it might not be the worst pitch I've heard.
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A VC invests in about 2% of the companies who pitch her. So at some point someone saw the Juicero deck and said "this is one of the two best deals I'm going to see this year". Hypothesis: the VCs investing in Juicero have horrible, terrible dealflow. Like real bad.
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pangstrom posted:Subjunctive do you want to fund my innovative product that will disrupt the juicero model? They are called j-loves. They are juicing gloves. Wifi enabled juicing gloves that will post how much you juiced today to social media
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juiced with left hand: 0 juiced with right hand: 9000
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Juicero CEO makes Medium post. This is too gorgeously interrelated to quote. Read the whole drat thing. e: I realized I've been assuming. Subjunctive, do you prefer male, female, or other pronouns?
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I'm no VC obviously but I could imagine being fooled. I mean a lot of affluent people are precious about juice and their time (the cleaning!) and the margins would be high, founder with experience in the industry, etc.
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Subjunctive posted:A VC invests in about 2% of the companies who pitch her. So at some point someone saw the Juicero deck and said "this is one of the two best deals I'm going to see this year". Hypothesis: the VCs investing in Juicero have horrible, terrible dealflow. Like real bad. quote:Juicero’s Series A and B investors included Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, GV (formerly Google Ventures)
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Juicero CEO makes Medium post. This is too gorgeously interrelated to quote. Read the whole drat thing. Squeezing a bag of chopped vegetables by hand is a "hack", oh my god this is precious
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Subjunctive posted:A VC invests in about 2% of the companies who pitch her. So at some point someone saw the Juicero deck and said "this is one of the two best deals I'm going to see this year". Hypothesis: the VCs investing in Juicero have horrible, terrible dealflow. Like real bad. I mean I could see this being a thing at hotels/nice banks/ other institutions that need something to entertain rich clients while they mill about the lobby. So long as you can keep a pitch from focused on the juice bag subscription and not just how stupid the actual product is I can see the appeal.
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