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Paracaidas posted:Noticed far more of these on children's and teen shows. Can't imagine why. Just like TV Tropes.
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The saddest thing was looking at an IMDB page for an actor and seeing absolutely zero forum activity about him/her. I think I was looking at Kirstie Allie once and it was empty.
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Apr 20, 2017 09:27
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There was always a lot of "looks so much like X!" posts too. You could look up any lesser known actor you might have seen in a guest role or something, and there's the thread about how hot they are and which more famous actors they looked like.
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Apr 20, 2017 13:12
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Watched the Fargo season premiere before The Leftovers. No regrets. It's off to a fantastic start.
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Apr 20, 2017 13:21
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Remember that writers guild strike partly started because of the Battlestar Galactica webisodes? And how shows like Friday Night Lights and Breaking Bad had to have short seasons? That was 10 years ago.
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Apr 20, 2017 18:05
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Mu Zeta posted:Remember that writers guild strike partly started because of the Battlestar Galactica webisodes? And how shows like Friday Night Lights and Breaking Bad had to have short seasons? That was 10 years ago. It also spawned some fantastic late night creativity because the networks made them go on anyways. That's how you got that weird Conan/Jon Stewart/Colbert rivalry. Also, apparently they hired scab writers for a bunch of daytime soap operas and they burned through several years of ideas and plot lines in a few months.
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Apr 20, 2017 19:42
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Mu Zeta posted:Remember that writers guild strike partly started because of the Battlestar Galactica webisodes? And how shows like Friday Night Lights and Breaking Bad had to have short seasons? That was 10 years ago. It took me a second to remember that not only were the last two seasons of Breaking Bad shortened but the first one as well. It's kind of tragic that the show started off short due to writers fighting for their fair share and then ended short as a way of weaseling out of said union agreements.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:27
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I never understand this poo poo. Why don't they just pay the loving writers a decent amount? How hard could it be? I feel like WGA goes on strike like, once per decade.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:29
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Snak posted:I never understand this poo poo. Well, you see... I want more money, and I don't want to give other people that money, because that means I won't have it.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:36
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Snak posted:Why don't they just pay the loving writers a decent amount? Supply and demand.
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Apr 20, 2017 20:37
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raditts posted:Well, you see... I want more money, and I don't want to give other people that money, because that means I won't have it. Yeah I don't see how this is in any way hard to understand. Publicly held corporations (most of who we're talking about are I believe) have a duty to their shareholders to maximize profits. That means not paying Joe Writerguy a lot of money. Welcome to capitalism, it probably sucks for you!
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Apr 20, 2017 20:58
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I mean, yeah, I get that greed is a thing. I just mean that the SAG has gone on strike like, twice ever in history, and the WGA has gone in strike like, 5 times in 3 decades. I know it probably just boils down to producers feeling like the show can go on without writers but obviously it can't without actors, but come on, figure out an equilibrium.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:04
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If there is a strike, we'll get another Dr Horrible, right?
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Apr 20, 2017 21:07
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Yeah, I imagine it has to do with SAG having more high profile members who are willing to go to bat for the union's needs so it never gets to the fighting stage. If Will Smith is threatening to drop out of your movie if you don't give the extras health insurance, you give the extras health insurance because it will cost you a lot less money. There's probably not that many writers with that kind of leverage or willingness to use it for the greater good.
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GreenNight posted:If there is a strike, we'll get another Dr Horrible, right? Please no
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Well maybe with Peak TV going the way it is, the negative effects of WGA strikes will start to be bigger and there will be a bigger interest in preventing them from happening by not pushing poo poo the to the absolute limit.
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Snak posted:I mean, yeah, I get that greed is a thing. I just mean that the SAG has gone on strike like, twice ever in history, and the WGA has gone in strike like, 5 times in 3 decades. Writers are, by and large, fungible. Actors much less so, as we haven't developed clone slaves yet. So actors have more leverage to get paid well, because yeah if you're some side character on a lovely sitcom or something you don't have much leverage, but you have like Tom Cruise and poo poo in your union. Not saying there aren't standout star writers, but it's not anywhere near the same. e: STAC Goat was a little faster than me, but yeah what he said.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:10
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Iron Crowned posted:Please no Stop having bad opinions IC.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:13
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IRQ posted:Stop having bad opinions IC. Dr Horrible is just that, horrible
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I understand most Joss Whedon hate, but Dr. Horrible is pretty great all around. Like, if it's not your thing, fine, but it's not horrible.
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I like a fair bit of Whedon stuff. He just has really obvious crutches and habits that show up in everything he does and that eventually hurts your work. Plus a really rabid fanbase. Dr. Horrible's something different, and compact so even though it completely repeats all of his crutches and habits it does it in a package that's quick and different enough not to really bug you.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:25
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Snak posted:I mean, yeah, I get that greed is a thing. I just mean that the SAG has gone on strike like, twice ever in history, and the WGA has gone in strike like, 5 times in 3 decades. Wasn't a big part of it that studios were keeping money from things like streaming and digital downloads and not paying the residuals on those? And they completely refused to negotiate on paying out the writers for these new modes of media consumption and stuck with "No, you get paid from TV airings, DVD sales, and nothing else"
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pentyne posted:Wasn't a big part of it that studios were keeping money from things like streaming and digital downloads and not paying the residuals on those? And they completely refused to negotiate on paying out the writers for these new modes of media consumption and stuck with "No, you get paid from TV airings, DVD sales, and nothing else" As I recall, yeah.
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Apr 20, 2017 21:31
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Peak TV is part of the reason for the WGA strike threat. Writers are used to being employed for 20+ episodes at a time every year. Now shows like Fargo do 10 episodes every 2-3 years. Writers still get paid per episode so it's a big pay cut compared to actors who are still getting paid well.
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Harlan Ellison's hilarious rant on this is one of my favorites. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuLr9HG2ASs "I'd sell my soul but only at the highest rates." "...send me the goddamn DVD right now or I'm gonna come down to your office and I'm gonna burn it to the ground, how about that?" -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Apr 20, 2017 |
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Apr 20, 2017 23:29
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Harlan Ellison is a lovely awful man.
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Iron Crowned posted:Please no Felicia Day is perfectly fine in the new MST3k and she was pretty good in Supernatural as the one woman to meet the Winchesters on multiple occasions and not die because since her character was a lesbian they didn't have to kill her off to appease the creepy fangirls. Lurdiak posted:Harlan Ellison is a lovely awful man. I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream is one of my favorite things ever but I will never get sick of stories of Ellison being dunked on for being such a terrible person. Even the ones that never actually happened: quote:This reminds me of my absolutely favorite Harlan Ellison story. People in the field are afraid to tell it out loud, but I will do so. Harlan and I are such good friends that I know he won’t kill me, especially when I tell you that I’m sure the story is quite fictional. Of course, he may maim me a bit.
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I wonder how many shows are going to be affected by the strike. I'd imagine most of the shows currently running are near enough to their finales that they've been written if not already shot. This could really effect next season though if it goes on long. Especially any new shows which often need even more prep time to be ready.
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I loved MST3K as a kid so I'll probably check out the Netflix version eventually for the hell of it. It makes me wonder, is there a place to watch the old ones? I see one season on Netflix and a bunch of YouTube but a bunch more deleted. I assume since it was on like a dozen channels, was cancelled and revived a bunch, and features other movies that it's an impossible rights maze?
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Guy Mann posted:Felicia Day is perfectly fine in the new MST3k and she was pretty good in Supernatural as the one woman to meet the Winchesters on multiple occasions and not die because since her character was a lesbian they didn't have to kill her off to appease the creepy fangirls. Haven't watched Supernatural in a while, have ya?
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X-Files season 11 is a go http://www.darkhorizons.com/the-x-files-s11-is-a-go-with-10-eps/
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Also Dark Matter of all shows is getting an aftershow called After Dark hosted by, that's right, not Chris Hardwick! Zoie Palmer (android) will be hosting.
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GreenNight posted:Also Dark Matter of all shows is getting an aftershow called After Dark hosted by, that's right, not Chris Hardwick! Zoie Palmer (android) will be hosting. I like the show, but that is just bizarre.
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While watching The Lost Boys on AMC yesterday I saw that Chris Hardwick now has a show merely called "Talking." So now he has an aftershow for a show that doesn't exist, which is a show that probably nobody asked for except Chris Hardwick.GreenNight posted:X-Files season 11 is a go But why tho.
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Syfy International is making it, so who knows if it will even air in the US. I think it's way more popular in Europe.
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raditts posted:While watching The Lost Boys on AMC yesterday I saw that Chris Hardwick now has a show merely called "Talking." So now he has an aftershow for a show that doesn't exist, which is a show that probably nobody asked for except Chris Hardwick. I really like Chris Hardwick. I've listened to his podcast for years, read his articles in Wired. He's genuinely a cool guy. But Jesus Christ the guy that hosts the Talking X shows is insufferable. Maybe the new show will be something more like the Nerdist podcast....Nah, doubt it
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GreenNight posted:Also Dark Matter of all shows is getting an aftershow called After Dark hosted by, that's right, not Chris Hardwick! Zoie Palmer (android) will be hosting. Zoie Palmer is the best part of Dark Matter and this aftershow will likely be better than Dark Matter.
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Medullah posted:I really like Chris Hardwick. I've listened to his podcast for years, read his articles in Wired. He's genuinely a cool guy. @Midnight is also now about Chris Hardwick's wife stories, and sometimes jokes.
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Aphrodite posted:@Midnight is also now about Chris Hardwick's wife stories, and sometimes jokes. Ugh that's disappointing. I'll admit I stopped watching @Midnight when CC pulled their dick move and dropped out of Hulu+. Which is a shame because I love stand up comedy and that show used to be a must watch.
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