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Just buy shortly after a masters set drops. It's pretty predictable at this point.
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Smashing Link posted:Exactly. It's great to expand the format but the prices always rebound. What do you think happens to the prices if masters set don't come out? If you believe anything close to what they are now loving slap yourself. Taking 5 seconds out of your day and looking at the price history of staples and total prices of decks now compared to before. IT should give you a clear picture. Sickening fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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Sickening posted:What do you think happens to the prices if masters set don't come out? If you believe anything close to what they are now loving slap yourself. Long-term prices will go down if the format stagnates and dies because of a lack of players. Short-term prices may decrease but if Wizards does their job ten years from now MM2027 will still command a premium because "prices are still too high".
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Smashing Link posted:Long-term prices will go down if the format stagnates and dies because of a lack of players. Short-term prices may decrease but if Wizards does their job ten years from now MM2027 will still command a premium because "prices are still too high". Does this describe the modern format in any way? Think about that for a little while.
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Sickening posted:Does this describe the modern format in any way? Think about that for a little while. Back to my original point -- abolishing the reserve list means nothing if they don't print a certain volume of cards. Modern Masters sets have put a dent in prices of some staples but it is still an expensive format to get into and I don't see Wizards having any incentive to change that as long as they keep trying to make Standard work.
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Smashing Link posted:Back to my original point -- abolishing the reserve list means nothing if they don't print a certain volume of cards. Modern Masters sets have put a dent in prices of some staples but it is still an expensive format to get into and I don't see Wizards having any incentive to change that as long as they keep trying to make Standard work. Well at least you moved the goalposts. Yes, I agree that its still an expensive format to get into but your original point of modern masters doing nothing for affordability was really dumb.
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I apologize, I don't keep a close eye on prices and have most of the staples already so I may have underestimated the reduction in prices.
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Star Man posted:I have met a single person in my nine years of the game that would be angry if the reserved list was eliminated. This same person complained that Tarmogoyf is overprinted. There is not many if any of those grognards left. They sold out of their collections years ago
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I'm very excited to open reprints of iconic cards from Magic's history such as fulminator mage and mishra's bauble this winter.
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Apr 21, 2017 04:23
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uninverted posted:I'm very excited to open reprints of iconic cards from Magic's history such as fulminator mage and mishra's bauble this winter. Don't worry, they'll reprint Urza's Bauble instead
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Apr 21, 2017 04:26
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Elyv posted:Don't worry, they'll reprint Urza's Bauble instead It'll have new, completely on the nose art too. Falling out of Urza's pocket onto someone's face or something.
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Apr 21, 2017 04:37
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I like the reserved list, as it ensures some cards from the past will always retain their value, and also isn't really a blocker on re-creating old cards. If they wanted to they can easily reprint any reserved list card with very, very minor tweaks. They've done this a handful of times already. Iconic Masters seem's like a weird way to approach it. For me, iconic is frozen shade. ...which is not something I want to open in a booster pack that would cost $10. Are hydra's even that 'iconic' when you go back to older sets? Outside of the red one from Apha that GREW HEADS. As fun as the master's sets have been, I'm still waiting for another Time Spiral-esque set to show up. There's so much fun references and clever cards that came out of that block.
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Apr 21, 2017 04:46
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EatinCake posted:I like the reserved list, as it ensures some cards from the past will always retain their value, Unlike all those valueless new cards like Tarmogoyf that get reprinted all the time, right?
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I don't think I have met anyone that said "I like the reserved list" that wasn't really weird. They also seem to be synonymous with bitching about having so few legacy events or people to play with in general. You types seem to have bad reasoning skills.
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EatinCake posted:I like the reserved list, as it ensures some cards from the past will always retain their value, and also isn't really a blocker on re-creating old cards. The thing keeping old cards valuable is the fact that they are old and very, very few exist. Birds of Paradise is like $5 for an M12 printing but thousands for an Alpha/Beta copy. Also WTF it's not a blocker in recreating old cards? That's the primary, explicitly-stated purpose of the reserved list - prevent reprints or functional reprints. Apparently a problem that has occurred multiple times in development is that they've created a card that is a 2/2 flying, first-strike that costs 1WW that they later realized they had to get rid of because it's a functional reprint of a reserved list card.
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Tired: The Reserved List is good because it helps cards maintain their value. Wired: The Reserved List is good because it pushes eternal players onto MTGO, which is superior to paper Magic.
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Cross-posted with the buy/sell thread: If anyone here is in the San Francisco or San Jose area, keep your ears open for someone who got their collection stolen, as it's up for sale here: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/clt/6095940211.html
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ThePeavstenator posted:The thing keeping old cards valuable is the fact that they are old and very, very few exist. Birds of Paradise is like $5 for an M12 printing but thousands for an Alpha/Beta copy. See also: Reverberate vs Fork, Phyrexian Negator reprint in a Duel Deck (which is easier to understand as a breach of the reserve list but c'mon)
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Cross-posted with the buy/sell thread: If anyone here is in the San Francisco or San Jose area, keep your ears open for someone who got their collection stolen, as it's up for sale here: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/clt/6095940211.html Well that's certainly priced to move.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Cross-posted with the buy/sell thread: If anyone here is in the San Francisco or San Jose area, keep your ears open for someone who got their collection stolen, as it's up for sale here: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/clt/6095940211.html My uncle owned a game shop that only had a foiled-out collection that would fit in a backpack.
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Apr 21, 2017 05:22
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ThePeavstenator posted:My uncle owned a game shop that only had a foiled-out collection that would fit in a backpack. He also worked at Nintendo and his name was Albert Einstein.
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ThePeavstenator posted:My uncle owned a game shop that only had a foiled-out collection that would fit in a backpack. My favorite part is "includes 6 ready-to-play decks" as if a store is going to put together a foiled-out Legacy D&T deck to loan out to any schlub who walks into the store. A guy at my last store had a foiled-out Azami EDH deck stolen but they eventually caught the guy and got him his deck back, although this was in bumfuck-nowhere Illinois so I don't know if being in SF would make this easier or harder to get back. E: Actually hey I have a Deckbox trade going with a guy who lives between SF ans SJ, sent it his way to try and spread it more quickly. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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C-Euro posted:See also: Reverberate vs Fork, Phyrexian Negator reprint in a Duel Deck (which is easier to understand as a breach of the reserve list but c'mon) The reserved list used to allow for foil printings of the cards. Then they changed it because ???
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suicidesteve posted:The reserved list used to allow for foil printings of the cards. Then they changed it because ??? Because their lawyers said they might get sued. Same reason we won't see another card as similar to a reserved card as reverberate, their lawyers also said something about that.
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EatinCake posted:I like the reserved list, as it ensures some cards from the past will always retain their value, and also isn't really a blocker on re-creating old cards. If they wanted to they can easily reprint any reserved list card with very, very minor tweaks. They've done this a handful of times already. Lottery of Babylon, is that you? Source your quotes.
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Or because they choose not to. You're speculating.
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I wonder if investor3 from mtgs is still  over masters reprints not being real cards.
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The Sexual Shiite posted:I wonder if investor3 from mtgs is still In ten boxes of Kaladesh I did not get one copy of Nissa, only got one Chandra, and then got playsets of several of the mythic rares. There should be on average 3 copies of each mythic in ten boxes of a set with 15 mythics. In previous sets the distribution was really even with a similar amount of boxes. In Eldritch Moon I got pretty much exactly three copies of each mythic with nine boxes of the set. With twelve boxes of Shadows I also got a very even distribution of everything. But then in Kaladesh it seemed much more random. Have they taken new measures to mix up boosters within boxes and boxes within cases?
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i cracked a box of modern masters 17 and my only mythic was temporal mastery
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Lottery of Babylon posted:In ten boxes of Kaladesh I did not get one copy of Nissa, only got one Chandra, and then got playsets of several of the mythic rares. There should be on average 3 copies of each mythic in ten boxes of a set with 15 mythics.  You know you are allowed to buy singles, right? $1000 buys you a lot of Nissa or Chandras.
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i think he cracks boxes for his store i hope
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its me glenda posted:i think he cracks boxes for his store Cards are only available in boosters. I don't pay other people to sort through packs for me and give me specific cards. You play with what you pull. If Wizards wanted it differently they'd have a singles store online. From the beginning of Magic, the packaging style of the cards was intended to be part of how the game works, an element of the fun/collectible aspect of it. Players would play with the cards that they were lucky enough to find in their booster packs. Buying singles kills that entire aspect of the game. I understand that constructing the best deck possible and purchasing singles to physically build it is a legitimate thing as well, but there's no denying that even without cards you open yourself being magically "soulbound" to you, there's a difference between possessing a highly collectible card that you cracked yourself vs. having the same card because you bought it as a single.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Cards are only available in boosters. I don't pay other people to sort through packs for me and give me specific cards. You play with what you pull. If Wizards wanted it differently they'd have a singles store online. source your mtgsalvation quotes
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Apr 21, 2017 07:42
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Is this the same guy who was flipping out that cards printed in masters sets aren't real cards
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cheetah7071 posted:Is this the same guy who was flipping out that cards printed in masters sets aren't real cards It is, and god bless that motherfucker. In much the same way that I am inspired to clean my house when I see pictures of hoarder houses, I get inspired to buy singles whenever I read his posts. Too bad his genetic line ends with him, I assume, because who would gently caress that guy, as we can expect that the universe will see fit to distribute his ubergooniness among us all upon his death, rather than to continue to see it concentrated in one place.
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Good to see that after over a year of not reading magic threads absolutely nothing has changed. Lottery of Babylon provides a valuable service to us all.
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 Gonna crack some packs tomorrow morning! 
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Cross-posted with the buy/sell thread: If anyone here is in the San Francisco or San Jose area, keep your ears open for someone who got their collection stolen, as it's up for sale here: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/clt/6095940211.html I'd pay half of what it's worth. Talk about pure profit
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EatinCake posted:I like the reserved list, as it ensures some cards from the past will always retain their value, and also isn't really a blocker on re-creating old cards. If they wanted to they can easily reprint any reserved list card with very, very minor tweaks. They've done this a handful of times already. I actually Googled this to see if it was from an MTGSalvation thread. Lottery of Babylon posted:In ten boxes of Kaladesh I did not get one copy of Nissa, only got one Chandra, and then got playsets of several of the mythic rares. There should be on average 3 copies of each mythic in ten boxes of a set with 15 mythics. Oh yeah, that's the stuff. 
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Lottery of Babylon posted:even without cards you open yourself being magically "soulbound" to you I know we're just assuming that this is an MTG Salvation post but I unironically love the idea that there are people who think like this playing the game. Every once in a while you get stories from some kitchen table kid who identifies themselves as, like, a green mage so all their decks are green or whatever. It's like the natural evolution of I SUMMON MY DARK MAGICIAN. I would hope those people aren't spending $1000 on booster boxes every 3 months but 
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