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Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Mantis42 posted:

Lowtax is a waste.

Lowtax is a MES(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Antiquated Pants posted:

I just tried going through season one. The improv riffing is so slow, it's easy to forget they're even riffing and you're left wondering why you're watching such a terrible movie.

Late to the party on this one but I was thinking about it the other day. Before MST3k started there were a few shows that were just bad movies with host segments during commercial breaks when someone make a joke or comment about how cheesy the movie is. The movie was the star and I think early MST3k kinda wanted to keep that in mind. I never really saw a first season MST3k so I could be wrong but I think there was probably some nod to Elvira's show or Disasterpiece Theater.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
You know if Felicia is the reason we got the Zelda Item Get jingle, then LowTax can go stow it because that was hilarious

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

So, just finished Starcrash.

The Emperor using his ship to just stop time may be my favorite cinematic rear end-pull ever.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Burkion posted:

You know if Felicia is the reason we got the Zelda Item Get jingle, then LowTax can go stow it because that was hilarious

Eh, I feel like she'd be more likely to have made the MMO jokes they do occasionally. She's gone on record that she and her brother were PC gamers because their parents wouldn't let them have a console.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Gaz-L posted:

Eh, I feel like she'd be more likely to have made the MMO jokes they do occasionally. She's gone on record that she and her brother were PC gamers because their parents wouldn't let them have a console.

Yeah, but I'm a PC gamer and even I would've done that.

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Yeah, but I'm a PC gamer and even I would've done that.

It's not like being a pc gamer didn't mean eventual access to pretty much every single console game anyone ever raved about. For 24 hours at a time only of course, before you deleted it.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
If the show gets picked up again, is there another Joe Don Baker movie the guys could be subjected to? It feels like it should be a rite of passage.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Gaz-L posted:

If the show gets picked up again, is there another Joe Don Baker movie the guys could be subjected to? It feels like it should be a rite of passage.

ONly when they're about to change the cast up

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Walking Tall is full of racist horrid hillbilly poo poo and utterly perfect for MST3K.
Let me show you my choice cuts of Joe's fat bacon rear end

THE PACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZI36Q1Vvw

WACKO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drO36S7udoE

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Its absurd that Wizards of the Lost Kingdom II was made in 1989

poparena
Oct 31, 2012

Gaz-L posted:

If the show gets picked up again, is there another Joe Don Baker movie the guys could be subjected to? It feels like it should be a rite of passage.

Seeing as how this new season was lacking in 70s funk and martial arts, I would nominate Golden Needles.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


The Ape of Naples posted:

Late to the party on this one but I was thinking about it the other day. Before MST3k started there were a few shows that were just bad movies with host segments during commercial breaks when someone make a joke or comment about how cheesy the movie is. The movie was the star and I think early MST3k kinda wanted to keep that in mind. I never really saw a first season MST3k so I could be wrong but I think there was probably some nod to Elvira's show or Disasterpiece Theater.

That's exactly what it was. Joel's gimmick to make his show different was to have the host in the theater with you and to occasionally make jokes during the movie, then it turned out that the jokes were the popular part.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


I'm 5 minutes into Wizards of the Lost Kingdom and what the gently caress is going on? There's a gargoyle screaming in pain while a yeti makes Eegah noises.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
hercuLEAP

e: what... what was the end of that. what were they doing

oh god why are the mads doing it what is

did I go insane, did they, what is going on

Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Apr 21, 2017

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Hassel-thrust!

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

the amount of inappropriate butt in Wizard of the Lost Kingdom II is astounding.

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


Oh no, I tripped on a sand! :(

Starcrash feels like someone tried to do Star Wars after one time watching it high on cough syrup. Then the set got double-booked with a softcore porno shoot, and they just rolled with it.

Terra-da-loo!
Apr 6, 2008

Sufficiently kickass.
Finally watching At the Earth's Core.

"Do you smell gravy?"

Some magnificent riffs in this episode.

Edit: "Star Wars during the throes of a DXM trip" is actually a really apt description for Starcrash, if you ask me. Good call.

Terra-da-loo! fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Apr 21, 2017

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
i can't believe they said "Beetlejuice" three times this season and Beetlejuice didn't show up.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
Out of the first four episodes, I want to say Avalanche is the best overall, though it still had some weak bits. It exceeded the unwritten limit for both the number of fart jokes and musical numbers in a MST3K episode.

Josephine surviving the avalanche, deliriously playing the piano in the wreckage, succumbing to hypothermia, being revived through CPR, and then dying anyway when her ambulance careens over a cliff and explodes in a massive fireball was a much more satisfying payoff than I expected from a movie that managed to not be exceptionally bad until the final act. I think that left me more awestruck than anything in Cry Wilderness.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Just watched the first half of Reptilicus and I'm legitimately shocked that this reboot is as good as it is. I had totally checked out because I was certain an MST3K revival would be a disaster.

Fair to say this season is well received by fans, yeah? Is the rest of the season as good as the first episode so far?

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

fsif posted:

Just watched the first half of Reptilicus and I'm legitimately shocked that this reboot is as good as it is. I had totally checked out because I was certain an MST3K revival would be a disaster.

Fair to say this season is well received by fans, yeah? Is the rest of the season as good as the first episode so far?

Reptillicus is likely the weakest episode


What I'm trying to say is, buckle in. This season is fantastic and it only gets better from there

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Beast of Hollow Mountain upon rewatching is a solid episode, but it's always that last 10% of the movie with the actual beast where I keep laughing the most. Jonah and the Bots are just so in sync and the riff delivery is great.

All around the mulberry bush, the dinosaur chased the people!

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

fsif posted:

Just watched the first half of Reptilicus and I'm legitimately shocked that this reboot is as good as it is. I had totally checked out because I was certain an MST3K revival would be a disaster.

Fair to say this season is well received by fans, yeah? Is the rest of the season as good as the first episode so far?

The next few rocket up in quality immediately, and by the time you hit the Hercules movie (appropriately enough, given the initial series' herc movies were all incredible) they're firing on all cylinders.

Kinga in particular seemed a little uneasy, but by the herc episode, she's established her character. The moment I started finally seeing her as a mad was when she screamed at the top of her lungs right in Max's face and then turned back around to calmly address Jonah. Just think, soon she'll be killing Max for the first time. They grow up so fast :kimchi:

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
It was that data-mining comment that sold me on her character.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.
I'm probably projecting but I think even the cast was having problems at first not being the character that came before them, and Crow's VA still can't get away from sounding like Trace despite trying in rehearsals. It takes them a bit to find their own thing but they eventually figure it out.

Also I love how the guys distract themselves with the most inane poo poo when Kinga and Max are doing a sketch. The Marco Polo one got me because it's just so incredibly random.

EatinCake
Oct 21, 2008
Anyone know they filmed these in the episode order? A lot of the critiques so far have revolved around Reptilicius being the weakest, and them finding their voice & timing later on,

but maybe it's just that the viewer adjusts to this rhythm for the show by episode two, or that the viewer gets more accustomed to the new voices.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Lord Hydronium posted:

Oh no, I tripped on a sand! :(

Starcrash feels like someone tried to do Star Wars after one time watching it high on cough syrup. Then the set got double-booked with a softcore porno shoot, and they just rolled with it.

What the heck was up with Akton?

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
I'm definitely seeing an overreliance on using movie sign to abruptly end host segments. That was absolutely a thing in the earlier seasons, but it never seemed like the norm. It kinda feels like they can't figure out how to properly end a skit now.

EatinCake posted:

Anyone know they filmed these in the episode order? A lot of the critiques so far have revolved around Reptilicius being the weakest, and them finding their voice & timing later on,

but maybe it's just that the viewer adjusts to this rhythm for the show by episode two, or that the viewer gets more accustomed to the new voices.

I'm curious about this too, but it's not like the bad rhythm is a consistent problem even in Reptilicus. It just feels like they scripted too many different jokes for certain scenes (particularly action scenes with little to no dialogue) and decided to cram them all in there instead of cutting a few and having it feel a bit more natural. And it's also a case of the jokes not playing off each other—like someone put it before, a thing happens, and all three say something different in response, leading directly into the next riffable moment with no pause, and it's kinda exhausting and doesn't give you the chance to even react to what you're watching.

Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Apr 21, 2017

Alehkhs
Oct 6, 2010

The Sorrow of Poets

Rollersnake posted:

I'm definitely seeing an overreliance on using movie sign to abruptly end host segments. That was absolutely a thing in the earlier seasons, but it never seemed like the norm. It kinda feels like they can't figure out how to properly end a skit now.

And/or they didn't want to/couldn't spend time figuring it out, similar to how they just said "gently caress it" and edited the salvageable parts of several skit takes together via bubble interference instead of nailing down a usable single continuous take.

I'm curious if a renewal from Netflix would give allow them to relax a bit and take more time, given that a lot of the props and such are already done.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Rollersnake posted:

I'm definitely seeing an overreliance on using movie sign to abruptly end host segments. That was absolutely a thing in the earlier seasons, but it never seemed like the norm. It kinda feels like they can't figure out how to properly end a skit now.


I'm curious about this too, but it's not like the bad rhythm is a consistent problem even in Reptilicus. It just feels like they scripted too many different jokes for certain scenes (particularly action scenes with little to no dialogue) and decided to cram them all in there instead of cutting a few and having it feel a bit more natural. And it's also a case of the jokes not playing off each other—like someone put it before, a thing happens, and all three say something different in response, leading directly into the next riffable moment with no pause, and it's kinda exhausting and doesn't give you the chance to even react to what you're watching.

In the original show, they got commercial signs along with movie signs, and commercial signs were a much more low-key way to end a skit. The tone was different, but it was still an excuse to end the skit.

And it's come up before, but the episodes were in fact filmed out of order.

Alehkhs
Oct 6, 2010

The Sorrow of Poets

EatinCake posted:

Anyone know they filmed these in the episode order? A lot of the critiques so far have revolved around Reptilicius being the weakest, and them finding their voice & timing later on,

but maybe it's just that the viewer adjusts to this rhythm for the show by episode two, or that the viewer gets more accustomed to the new voices.

Reptilicus was indeed the first one they wrote and recorded riffs for, regardless of the production order of the rest of the episodes. Even Joel knew the Reptilicus episode was kinda rough:

quote:

ComingSoon.net: So I saw the “Reptilicus” premiere episode and then the “Cry Wilderness” episode. When I talked to Joel he was very insistent, “I want to stress there’s a big uptick in quality from the first episode to the other ones.” And I felt it. The “Cry Wilderness” episode felt like it was stronger, faster, funnier. Can you talk a little bit about the leap from the pilot to the rest of the episodes?

Jonah Ray: Yeah, it’s funny because when we started doing the episodes, I got to this one I really wanted to dub. And I was like, “Joel, we should make this the first episode. This is such a solid episode.” Then Joel, in his shaman-like way, was like, “No, man, you gotta start them off easy, then you progressively get better and better.” And I was like, “Oh okay. I don’t know if viewers work that way anymore, that you’ve got to wow them right off the bat.” But he is wise in his comedic timing, so I do think that we did get exponentially better the more we did it. “Reptilicus” was the first one we wrote and it was the first one we recorded. So we were still trying to find our rhythm, find the voices and get used to it, and also just kind of get over the mind trip of doing it at all. It was overwhelming to just be in that position of like, “Oh, wow, we’re actually doing this. We’re actually doing this. This is crazy,” that we’re getting to make “Mystery Science Theater.” I think there is a bit of that, which I hope people find charming, the way I found early episodes of “MST” charming, but they weren’t perfect. I do think that “Cry Wilderness” is such a great movie, and there’s this Korean monster movie, “Yongary,” which is basically Godzilla with a horn on its nose. When they sent us that one, the completed episode of “Yongary,” I saw it and went, “Oh man, this should be the first episode.” But hopefully people will stick with it and enjoy it as we get better at it and everyone’s more comfortable with the positions.

Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/features/838011-jonah-ray-talks-hosting-the-new-mystery-science-theater-3000#4Rg34MjOWuq5iGeJ.99

Alehkhs fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 21, 2017

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



Bruceski posted:

What the heck was up with Akton?

He's like if Rex Smith and Willie Ames had a child, and that child played a combination of C-3PO and Ben Kenobi.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Bruceski posted:

What the heck was up with Akton?

I described him as "Imagine there's a Jedi, but they never call him that, or even bother to hand-wave his abilities by mentioning 'the Force' or even just 'magic', then he dies from a nick on the arm."

Mace Bacon
Apr 16, 2008

YOU'RE SLEEPING HERE? IS THIS WHERE YOU'RE SLEEPING? HUH?!

IMDB posted:

The character Akton was originally devised as a grotesque alien, but Marjoe Gortner refused to wear any heavy make-up.

There's your answer.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



remusclaw posted:

Yeah, Yongary had more than a few instances of them cracking each other up. I really like the new season, that said I like all the era's of the show.

I do feel a little like the seemingly overwhelming preference some have for the Mike period of the show comes from them having pretty much got every thing down pat by the time he took over. Late era Joel was an amazing show, but those early seasons are pretty rough at times.

I'm one of the Mike fans. He always seemed significantly​ more comfortable in front of the camera than Joel. With Joel it always felt like that really awkward highschool play with the lead who REALLY doesn't want to be there.

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Compendium posted:

Beast of Hollow Mountain upon rewatching is a solid episode, but it's always that last 10% of the movie with the actual beast where I keep laughing the most. Jonah and the Bots are just so in sync and the riff delivery is great.

It's such a weird movie to me, because for the first hour, none of the people act like regular humans. Pancho openly tells his son that he drinks to forget his dead wife, and it's supposed to be a laugh line. The main female lead says hello to Jimmy in the graveyard and he immediately pulls a gun on her, despite her telling him to meet her there. And Panchito just happens to sense his father got eaten by the beast.

Kojiro
Aug 11, 2003

LET'S GET TO THE TOP!
Is anyone else up to The Christmas That Almost Wasn't yet because that one is a really strong episode with a really loving weird movie, definitely one of the best of the season.

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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Terra-da-loo! posted:

Finally watching At the Earth's Core.

"Do you smell gravy?"

Some magnificent riffs in this episode.


That one has so many good riffs, and so many of them are just silly things that are perfectly timed. The Benny Hill Theme absolutely slew me.

Kojiro posted:

Is anyone else up to The Christmas That Almost Wasn't yet because that one is a really strong episode with a really loving weird movie, definitely one of the best of the season.

It's so weird. It's like they were trying to make a Frosty the Snowman kind of kid's Christmas movie, but somehow made every single character supremely creepy.

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