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Pornographic Memory posted:Luckily for Bobrovsky the Vezina votes are already in though. Also it's pretty funny that Torts is going to win the Jack Adams for the radical stratagem of having his goalie stop a lot of pucks while having Aaron Portzline write an endless supply of puff pieces about what a nice guy he's become. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-FcxlEMaw Except Mr. Burns is Torts, Darryl Strawberry is Bobrovsky, and Smithers is the hockey media.
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Ran into a guy in a Jets t-shirt. Asked him how he felt about them next season. His response: "Oh my dumpster fire of a team? I'm sure they'll find a way to break my heart." And now I'm sad. We had a good laugh about the Hawks getting swept though.
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A little irony in this list. https://twitter.com/shane1342o/status/855236324957310976
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Well anyway, while I'd like the Canucks to pick in the top 2, they'll most likely pick 4th - and if they do, I hope that Gabe Vilardi is still available and they take him. Still super young, already 6'3" and seems to be doing pretty drat well where he is.
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xzzy posted:I get that the $10 million a year contracts are for services rendered more than for continued production, but drat it would be nice if Toews and Kane looked like they gave half a poo poo out there. to be fair they won a cup after getting those contracts which is more than could reasonably be expected the Hawks just need a permanent pipeline of new teuvos, panarins etc every year
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Emetic Hustler posted:Love the "gently caress the Hawks" posts, doesn't change the fact that they have more Cups the last couple of years than your team has. They won't be in full rebuild mode for quite some time, I think, not after giving Panarin the six million dollar extension and all the NMCs they gave along with their other big contracts. They're going to have to rely on their draft picks on recent years to give them cheap, quality depth. They might be ok at forward now that Hartman and Schmaltz have a season under their belt, plus Hayden and Debrincat are intriguing prospects. Unfortunately, the blue line will be harder to address. I think both Keith and Seabrook (especially Seabrook) would benefit from some easier minutes if they can find someone else to absorb top line competition, but there's no one in the pipeline remotely close to being able to do that. Forsling has a lot of potential, but he's only 20 and it might take him a while to figure it out, if he ever does. No one else in their system inspires much confidence, either. The cap makes it hard to find that guy in free agency, too.
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MAF posted a .933 behind a really shaky defense on the first shot but if you guys were watching, after the initial shot and MAF's awful rebound control, his defense bailed him the gently caress out over and over again. Dude wasn't absorbing pucks or directing them to the corner, he just straight up laid loving eggs into the slot and waited for a defensemen to clear the puck. So, while the bad D led to the scoring chance, his poor positioning and rebound control led to a better scoring chance instead of shutting that poo poo right down. The Penguins were not good in the defensive zone, they were bad and lucky and CBJ deserved better than they got.
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Captain Internet posted:MAF posted a .933 behind a really shaky defense on the first shot but if you guys were watching, after the initial shot and MAF's awful rebound control, his defense bailed him the gently caress out over and over again. Dude wasn't absorbing pucks or directing them to the corner, he just straight up laid loving eggs into the slot and waited for a defensemen to clear the puck. Pretty much this. If the Caps get to the 2nd round, I don't see us (the pens) winning without 4+ goals in a game. There are obvious and exploitable holes in the Penguins defense that didn't exist last year, and a team like Washington is too good not to take advantage of them. Yeah our offense is great, but that isn't enough to win a cup (as we've proven a number of times with early exits in the last decade).
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Pornographic Memory posted:Luckily for Bobrovsky the Vezina votes are already in though. Also it's pretty funny that Torts is going to win the Jack Adams for the radical stratagem of having his goalie stop a lot of pucks while having Aaron Portzline write an endless supply of puff pieces about what a nice guy he's become. Tort's not going to win, everyone knows he's a mediocre coach at best who has lucked out with some talented teams.
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 somehow I missed this during the regular season: sbisa is so bad. I hope Vegas takes him.
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Captain Internet posted:CBJ deserved better than they got. what the gently caress
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JawKnee posted:Well anyway, while I'd like the Canucks to pick in the top 2, they'll most likely pick 4th - and if they do, I hope that Gabe Vilardi is still available and they take him. Still super young, already 6'3" and seems to be doing pretty drat well where he is. they're gonna draft the tallest dman they plausibly can because their zdeno chara project just bolted for russia then they're gonna make him watch video of chris pronger and be confused when he demands a trade at 22
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Captain Internet posted:The Penguins were not good in the defensive zone, they were bad and lucky and CBJ deserved better than they got. Columbus had awful goaltending, awful coaching and they were incredibly undisciplined. They deserved exactly what they got.
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grack posted:Columbus had awful goaltending, awful coaching and they were incredibly undisciplined. They deserved exactly what they got. All I'm saying is they probably should have been in more games than they were . This is probably a 6-7 game series with more 1 goal games if Pittsburgh got punished for their mistakes and CBJ had .900 goaltending.
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the worst thing is that for all of their belligerence the BJ's didn't manage to significantly injure any penguin players and therefor pave the way for a far more interesting team to advance to the ECF
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https://twitter.com/Newsday/status/855500487617019905 two arenas in nassau this should work well
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Levitate posted:the worst thing is that for all of their belligerence the BJ's didn't manage to significantly injure any penguin players and therefor pave the way for a far more interesting team to advance to the ECF Didn't you see? Malkin died.
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JawKnee posted:Well anyway, while I'd like the Canucks to pick in the top 2, they'll most likely pick 4th - and if they do, I hope that Gabe Vilardi is still available and they take him. Still super young, already 6'3" and seems to be doing pretty drat well where he is. We chat about prospects in the non-NHL hockey thread, but there's not a dedicated draft thread. I usually throw one together a few weeks out, but it's just a few of us posting in there until the day before. As for Vilardi, he doesn't wow me. He sorta reminds me of Brandon Sutter a bit and that's not a compliment. I figure he's a checker at the NHL level. Even best case scenario he's a good 2nd line centre. There are a lot of better centres available. If he was 6 months older and 6'1 I'm not sure people would be putting him in the top 15. Supposedly he's a possession wizard so odds are he'll be a decent NHLer, but I wouldn't count on him being a regular top six contributor at the NHL level. He's one of those "low ceiling high floor" types, and I tend to believe that there's no such thing as a high floor.
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Captain Internet posted:All I'm saying is they probably should have been in more games than they were . This is probably a 6-7 game series with more 1 goal games if Pittsburgh got punished for their mistakes and CBJ had .900 goaltending. I am trying, and failing, to figure out exactly what the gently caress point you're trying to make here. Columbus played like poo poo and Bobrovsky forgot how to goalie. It's mind-bogglingly stupid to say they "deserved better" because based on how they played, they got the exact result they deserved. grack fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 21, 2017 |
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JawKnee posted:outside of the top 2, who would you value at C over vilardi? Mittelstadt, and who else? Suzuki for sure. He at least is a good playmaker. I haven't been quiet about my man crush on Jason Robertson and I think he has the size and style to be taught to play centre (Ala Benn). I don't follow European prospects but Petersson and Necas have put up tantalizing numbers across the pond. Vilardi is fine, but he just isn't a top level offensive threat. He'd be a solid 10th overall pick, but I have severe doubts he'll be a top six scorer in the NHL and I want a top 5 pick to project as a top line player on draft day even if they don't get there.
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Kalenn Istarion posted:Tort's not going to win, everyone knows he's a mediocre coach at best who has lucked out with some talented teams. You seem to be forgetting that Patrick Roy won in 2014 and Bob Hartley won in 2015 despite neither of them being good coaches, rather their teams just getting really lucky and landing in a playoff spot.
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ThinkTank posted:Suzuki for sure. He at least is a good playmaker. I haven't been quiet about my man crush on Jason Robertson and I think he has the size and style to be taught to play centre (Ala Benn). I don't follow European prospects but Petersson and Necas have put up tantalizing numbers across the pond. What about Cody Glass? He seems to be a late riser, and some people have him going top 5 now. Getting compared to Scheifele.
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Kilza posted:You seem to be forgetting that Patrick Roy won in 2014 and Bob Hartley won in 2015 despite neither of them being good coaches, rather their teams just getting really lucky and landing in a playoff spot. I don't think Torts should win either but Columbus actually played some good puck possession hockey this year unlike the other teams you mentioned. I don't think Columbus will compete for the division next year but I could see them being a playoff team again, even if/when Bob regresses.
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grack posted:I am trying, and failing, to figure out exactly what the gently caress point you're trying to make here. Columbus played like poo poo and Bobrovsky forgot how to goalie. It's mind-bogglingly stupid to say they "deserved better" because based on how they played, they got the exact result they deserved. I think he's trying to say that Columbus' overall successful season will unfortunately (read: undeservedly) remembered for a rough playoffs in which they: - Drew the short straw in the inept playoff system; - Were out-played on both ends of the rink (given his "still lose in 6 or 7" comment); - Had a very good goalie go through the worst-timed slump; and - Some poor puck luck in terms of rebounds and deflections. I didn't read it is as a complaint about the Jackets deserving to win, but moreso that if you played the series 100 times then this result would be close to the bottom 10 percentile for CBJ. You're right that the result matches the on-ice performance, and he/she is right that heading into the playoffs most people would have agreed that "Columbus deserves better than being eliminated in 5 by Pitt".
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Columbus got exactly what they deserved.
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cenotaph posted:Torts got exactly what he deserved.
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Columbus overachieved during the regular season, just like someone always does, and flamed out in 5 games. They got exactly what they deserved.
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whatis posted:Mike Gillis is being talked as a possibility for Buffalo. I don't know anything about him really besides he was with Vancouver and put together a pretty good team before Boston broke the franchise and made them all really dumb He's an excellent, forward thinking GM that pioneered some really intuitive stuff for the Canucks (including sleep monitoring and petitioning the league to coordinate their schedule to it). He lost his way by the end there, but he was good at building a highly skilled skating team. Just don't let him anywhere near the draft table.
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ThinkTank posted:He's an excellent, forward thinking GM that pioneered some really intuitive stuff for the Canucks (including sleep monitoring and petitioning the league to coordinate their schedule to it). He lost his way by the end there, but he was good at building a highly skilled skating team. Some of the stuff at the end is hard to figure out too as there's always rumours swirling around ownership's hands pulling his strings. He was great until the cup run though. I liked Gillis for the most part - but yeah his drafting turned out awful (with Horvat as the most notable exception).
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grack posted:I am trying, and failing, to figure out exactly what the gently caress point you're trying to make here. Columbus played like poo poo and Bobrovsky forgot how to goalie. It's mind-bogglingly stupid to say they "deserved better" because based on how they played, they got the exact result they deserved. Sorry this is so late. I'll try to be as clear as possible. The bounces for Columbus? They were the bad bounces. The bounces for Pittsburgh? Very much good time bounces. If the bounces are not so good maybe for Pittsburgh in the 2nd round, they are going to be losing the hockey games. I hope this helps clear it up! vvvvv it's all good my man, not sure how to explain a team playing really really well not being rewarded for it and a team getting out played and not getting punished for it in a way you could understand, so you just enjoy that torts hate boner.vvvvvv Captain Internet fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Captain Internet posted:Sorry this is so late. I'll try to be as clear as possible. The bounces for Columbus? They were the bad bounces. The bounces for Pittsburgh? Very much good time bounces. If the bounces are not so good maybe for Pittsburgh in the 2nd round, they are going to be losing the hockey games. Nope, still stupid. Sorry!
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