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From the outside it looks like Corbyn is holding Labor (and with them the whole opposition to a Tory government) hostage by demanding that stay loyal to the true ideology, even though it's very obvious that that ideology is not supported by a majority in the UK, believing that if they just explain it well enough the people will understand and vote for it. It's amazing that he would rather have Theresa May and her merry band of Brexiteers govern the country than compromise. 
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Apr 21, 2017 18:20
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GaussianCopula posted:From the outside it looks like Corbyn is holding Labor (and with them the whole opposition to a Tory government) hostage by demanding that stay loyal to the true ideology, even though it's very obvious that that ideology is not supported by a majority in the UK, believing that if they just explain it well enough the people will understand and vote for it. A dog for each lost world war.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:20
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TheRat posted:That has to be some sort of obscure parody It's the radio station that hired Nigel Farage, Kate Hopkins and Iain Dale. It's no a parody.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:21
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GaussianCopula posted:From the outside it looks like Corbyn is holding Labor (and with them the whole opposition to a Tory government) hostage by demanding that stay loyal to the true ideology, even though it's very obvious that that ideology is not supported by a majority in the UK, believing that if they just explain it well enough the people will understand and vote for it. Nazi twat, gently caress off.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:26
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It's a shame that Corbyn has some good policies, because without a stance against immigration he's only going to get further away from winning each day. There really needs to be an anti-immigration left wing party to give the left some chance of government.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:29
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Jeremy Corbyn supports universal employment. Is he secretly a werewolf?
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Apr 21, 2017 18:29
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Pissflaps posted:Good news though isn't it? Of course. Both for being reasonable policies in themselves and for the optics of doing them all on the same day undoubtedly playing very badly with their base. The Telegraph has already pitched a fit about it.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:30
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Morton Salt Grrl posted:It's a shame that Corbyn has some good policies, because without a stance against immigration he's only going to get further away from winning each day. There really needs to be an anti-immigration left wing party to give the left some chance of government. That would be the BNP.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:32
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https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/855398496366718978 Theresa the control freak.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:35
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Something I thought was interesting and hopefully part of a positive trend. According to a spokesperson from the Electoral Commission the 24 hours after May announced the snap election had over 150,000 people register to vote. This is the largest amount in a single day ever. About 75% of new registrations were under 34 and of these about 58,000 (so a bit over half) were under 25. While the numbers aren't huge this does suggest that there might be less widespread ennui about the election than some are claiming. The majority being younger voters is a nice change that I hope keeps going. I've not been able to find anything about this online anywhere (but may just be a bad searcher) so no idea if this surge is continuing. The figures are from last nights The World Tonight - interview starts about 18 minutes in.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:37
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Uncle Kitchener posted:Is LBC for real is it actually the UK Onion? It's a genuinely terrible radio station. Doesn't Katie Hopkins still work there?
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Apr 21, 2017 18:37
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Morton Salt Grrl posted:It's a shame that Corbyn has some good policies, because without a stance against immigration he's only going to get further away from winning each day. There really needs to be an anti-immigration left wing party to give the left some chance of government. No thanks. Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/855398496366718978 That's not a very good look
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Apr 21, 2017 18:41
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Corbyn must stop the boats.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:42
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Immigrants are good. Deport conservatives.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:43
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EmptyVessel posted:According to a spokesperson from the Electoral Commission the 24 hours after May announced the snap election had over 150,000 people register to vote. This is the largest amount in a single day ever. About 75% of new registrations were under 34 and of these about 58,000 (so a bit over half) were under 25. Maybe. On the other hand, a snap rush election would probably lead to a bit more panic-registration from people who would have gotten around to it at some point if they knew well in advance, and also maybe younger people would be more likely to have moved around more and so need to register again. This is just me guessing, though.
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forkboy84 posted:It's a genuinely terrible radio station. Doesn't Katie Hopkins still work there? I miss when LBC used to be chill.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:45
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Gonzo McFee posted:Immigrants are good. Deport conservatives. Who would want them? Guillotine conservatives.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:45
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Can we start a sort of communist international brigade only for tories and the opposite of voluntary.
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Praseodymi posted:Who would want them? Deport them... to HELL
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Apr 21, 2017 18:50
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Investigation into Leave EU's finances by the Electoral Commission, tasty timing - http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/21/now-the-electoral-commission-orders-an-investigation-in-leaveeus-finances/. I wonder how many leave.eu donor's names also appear on Tory donor lists.
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Apr 21, 2017 18:52
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Skinty McEdger posted:Rob Oxley is allegedly the new communications director for May, and looks to be bringing in the vote leave team with him. Zalakwe posted:Investigation into Leave EU's finances by the Electoral Commission, tasty timing - http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/21/now-the-electoral-commission-orders-an-investigation-in-leaveeus-finances/. I wonder how many leave.eu donor's names also appear on Tory donor lists. Was there ever any crossover between these two organisations?
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Angepain posted:Maybe. On the other hand, a snap rush election would probably lead to a bit more panic-registration from people who would have gotten around to it at some point if they knew well in advance, and also maybe younger people would be more likely to have moved around more and so need to register again. This is just me guessing, though. Fair point. There is over a month left to register for this election but the announcement may have been a good reminder like you say. This is why I wondered if the trend had continued. I'm just pleased that younger voters are registering since back in the day I couldn't understand why some of my peers were too apathetic to vote against Thatcher. Was idly wondering if we could repurpose the old chant to "May! May! May! Out! Out! Out!" More news that might help voters decisions - President of European parliament says "“If the UK, after the election, wants to withdraw [article 50], then the procedure is very clear. If the UK wanted to stay, everybody would be in favour. I would be very happy.” So Article 50 not irreversible and they'd welcome a new governments new position.
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Darth Walrus posted:Was there ever any crossover between these two organisations? Unfortunately I doubt it, the top brass of the Tory party were wise enough to keep Leave.EU at arms length, however at an activist and donor level there will be loads. One thing that is worth pointing out is that is the same comms team that came up with £350 million for the NHS, Labour should be bringing that up a lot but I bet the Lib Dems press office will cotton on first.
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https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/855483003019112448 I think our boy jezza has had a good few days
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EmptyVessel posted:Something I thought was interesting and hopefully part of a positive trend. I think it only being a few weeks away will have a positive affect on younger voters. Less time for them to get bored with it all and forget what day it was on.
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/855483003019112448 Also: https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/855477483629457409 https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/855387053374283777 Dude's having fun.
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/855483003019112448 Tories refusing to pledge on taxes was also exploited by McDonnell, who shamelessly called it a 'Tory tax bombshell'. It's interesting to note than for the first two days at least, the focus has been on domestic policy rather than Brexit.
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knox_harrington posted:So the only thing JC has to offer businesses is scrapping quarterly tax reporting if turnover is <£83k? Which is already in place under the Conservatives? Making Tax Digital will come into play if the Conservatives win, forcing all non-incorporated businesses and landlords to report quarterly starting April 2018. If your turnover is below the threshold you get one year deferall but under Tory rule everyone but those who earn less than 10 grand turnover (not profit) will have to report quarterly with only one month to do it. Corbyn is proposing "Bollocks to it" for those under the VAT threshold indefinitely, as an accounting assistant for many small firms that will be a significant improvement, although it doesn't help those in the 90k turnover range who make just enough to get hit by both barrels. Still, it's a point that'll help those who's main income is pension and just rent out a little on the side or run a business more as a hobby than seriously. And have you sen old people trying to use a computer? Even accountants don't want it because
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Zalakwe posted:One thing that is worth pointing out is that is the same comms team that came up with £350 million for the NHS, Labour should be bringing that up a lot but I bet the Lib Dems press office will cotton on first. I don't think Leavers actually care about this. Remainers do as it's an obvious example of the duplicitousness of the Leave campaign.
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GaussianCopula posted:From the outside it looks like Corbyn is holding Labor (and with them the whole opposition to a Tory government) hostage by demanding that stay loyal to the true ideology, even though it's very obvious that that ideology is not supported by a majority in the UK, believing that if they just explain it well enough the people will understand and vote for it. the british public supports all of corbyn's policies, they just despise the man himself
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icantfindaname posted:the british public supports all of corbyn's policies, they just despise the man himself Many domestic, very few foreign and defence.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Making Tax Digital will come into play if the Conservatives win, forcing all non-incorporated businesses and landlords to report quarterly starting April 2018. If your turnover is below the threshold you get one year deferall but under Tory rule everyone but those who earn less than 10 grand turnover (not profit) will have to report quarterly with only one month to do it. My dad runs his own joinery business (literally just him building stuff in his garage or in people's homes). And trying to explain to him how to upload photos from his phone to his computer, and then from the computer to ebay has been an exercise in god drat frustration 
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Pissflaps posted:Many domestic, very few foreign and defence. Labour should have been smashing the Tories from day one when Redcar steel shut down that it was a massive national defense risk
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Firos posted:My dad runs his own joinery business (literally just him building stuff in his garage or in people's homes). And trying to explain to him how to upload photos from his phone to his computer, and then from the computer to ebay has been an exercise in god drat frustration My boss can't figure out how to download an attachment so generally has me or the senior non-partner do it for him  Also, in addition: thing I forgot about MTD. If you're the opposite end of the scale (Partnership with £10 million turnover) you get deferral for 2 years instead of the 1 you get for being below the VAT threshold.
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forkboy84 posted:It's a genuinely terrible radio station. Doesn't Katie Hopkins still work there? I think I may have mentioned it before - I was catching a lift from work early one morning, and my workmate had it on. And whatever presenter they had on there was the Daily Mail incarnate - going off on some rant about forign single sexhaver slut mums stealin are jobs and claiming benefits never ad it in my day when you could call someone a darkie with out the PC EU police and their bendy bananas. Reds. Red and queers everywhere *froth froth froth* (etc etc).
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If it's early in the morning it was probably Nick Ferrari, famous for being really fat and unpleasant. Or Steve Allen but I think all he does is bitch about celebrities.
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Apr 21, 2017 19:46
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Chucat posted:If it's early in the morning it was probably Nick Ferrari, famous for being really fat and unpleasant. Or Steve Allen but I think all he does is bitch about celebrities. Quickly listening to a clip of Ferrari, and having my teeth instantly start grinding with rage, suggests it was probably him. Thanks.
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Is this hope? Fingers crossed Corbyn can maintain this momentum. The Tories have had a pretty piss poor start. Corbyn is wise to avoid Brexit for now.
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