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Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Kaysette posted:

lol if anyone plays a spell casting class without a spellbook app

Can... Can you recommend one? (for android)

Krinkle fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Apr 21, 2017

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Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:

Krinkle posted:

Can... Can you recommend one?

The selection on iOS kind of sucks but "5e Spell Book" works fine. You have to import the spell list as xml files yourself to get around copyright poo poo but a quick Google resolves that.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Krinkle posted:

Can... Can you recommend one? (for android)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spellsdd5&hl=en works good for me.

No need for xml stuff, the spells are kinda just in there.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
lmao I've really been looking for a good way to just introduce some really lovely classism at my table while simultaneously making sure everyone gives a ton of money personally to Mike Mearles. We can't find his address tho but fortunately that official ruling sounds like exactly what I was looking for, thanks rando Facebook guy!



edit: in a squeaky voice Thanks for this rule! I was really upset because Billy was allowed to make a cool monster from Volo's even tho his dad is unemployed and my dad is a doctor! How would that be fair? Thanks for this rule!!!

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Paramemetic posted:

lmao I've really been looking for a good way to just introduce some really lovely classism at my table while simultaneously making sure everyone gives a ton of money personally to Mike Mearles. We can't find his address tho but fortunately that official ruling sounds like exactly what I was looking for, thanks rando Facebook guy!



edit: in a squeaky voice Thanks for this rule! I was really upset because Billy was allowed to make a cool monster from Volo's even tho his dad is unemployed and my dad is a doctor! How would that be fair? Thanks for this rule!!!

It's not as exacerbated in 5e because there's not as much stuff out for it, but for organized play where you're going from table to table and playing with different groups, it is pretty critical to have the actual official rules available for whatever you're using. It's a reasonable requirement due to the organized play nature of the campaign.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Couple of printed photocopied pages ought to suffice for that.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Krinkle posted:

Can... Can you recommend one? (for android)

Honestly the DnD Beyond mobile format works pretty well.

Dracula Factory
Sep 7, 2007


Has anyone tried the new UA rules for rangers? I've always wanted to play a bow specialist/outdoorsman type but vanilla rangers are just trash compared to fighters, and the UA rules seem to make them a bit more competitive and interesting.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
just lol if you don't have a stack of index cards thick enough for a rolodex to track all your action descriptions, spells, special abilities, and magic items.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

So I just took on permanent madness that requires greater restoration to fix.

Our party is level 3.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Couple of printed photocopied pages ought to suffice for that.

Unfortunately there's no official digital rulebooks for 5e. Paizo lets you use printouts in PFS for example (with the watermark intact so they can check you bought it and it's authentic).

Sage Genesis
Aug 14, 2014
OG Murderhobo

Nehru the Damaja posted:

So I just took on permanent madness that requires greater restoration to fix.

Our party is level 3.

Oh dear. How'd that happen? Some homebrew DM shenanigans or something legit out of the books? (Not sure which is worse.)

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


NeurosisHead posted:

Honestly the DnD Beyond mobile format works pretty well.

I can't find that on the play store, is it something you only get access to if you sign up on their forums for the beta?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Sage Genesis posted:

Oh dear. How'd that happen? Some homebrew DM shenanigans or something legit out of the books? (Not sure which is worse.)

From the DMG:

quote:

GOING MAD

Various magical effects can inflict madness on an otherwise stable mind. Certain spells, such as contact other plane and symbol, can cause insanity, and you can use the madness rules here instead of the spell effects in the Player 's Handbook. Diseases, poisons, and planar effects such as psychic wind or the howling winds of Pandemonium can all inflict madness. Some artifacts can also break the psyche of a character who uses or becomes attuned to them.

Resisting a madness-inducing effect usually requires a Wisdom or Charisma saving throw. If your game includes the Sanity score (see chapter 9, "Dungeon Master's Workshop"), a creature makes a Sanity saving throw instead.

MADNESS EFFECTS

Madness can be short-term, long-term, or indefinite. Most relatively mundane effects impose short-term madness, which lasts for just a few minutes. More horrific effects or cumulative effects can result in long-term or indefinite madness.

A character afflicted with short-term madness is subjected to an effect from the Short-Term Madness table for 1d10 minutes.

A character afflicted with long-term madness is subjected to an effect from the Long-Term Madness table for 1d10 x 10 hours.

A character afflicted with indefinite madness gains a new character flaw from the Indefinite Madness table that lasts until cured.

CURING MADNESS

A calm emotions spell can suppress the effects of madness, while a lesser restoration spell can rid a character of a short-term or long-term madness. Depending on the source of the madness, remove curse or dispel evil might also prove effective. A greater restoration spell or more powerful magic is required to rid a character of indefinite madness.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


How does D&D unearthed arcana work? This is playtest material, should I be submitting logs or something? How do they know if we like it or not?

Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



Krinkle posted:

How does D&D unearthed arcana work? This is playtest material, should I be submitting logs or something? How do they know if we like it or not?

They do surveys at the end of the month usually.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana/trio-subclasses
This says they're not accepting survey input anymore, but it is phrased like maybe they're talking about the previous thing. I can't tell. Do you really get one to three weeks to get a group together and playtest and report back to them? Or will next week's UA have a link to the survey?

I found it. I looked at the next thing about the starter spells and it didn't have anything so I gave up. But then I looked at the NEXT next one and it was there. Nevermind.

Okay for the Redemption Paladin your armor class if you are naked starts at 16 and goes up with your dex, so you want good dex, but there are no simple melee bludgeoning weapons that use dexterity so you also need strength. I don't want to just be using my jesus radiance until I find a suit of plate mail. I want to be naked forever but pumping dex will never help me tag someone with my friendship stick. It's kind of a weird awkward impossible to synergize stat allocation. I guess I could subclass into monk for a dex based quarterstaff but then what's the point of the naked AC quirk?

And my GM thinks that a free automatic charm, even if it's at the near impossible to reach trigger of thumping someone to 0hp with a stick on your turn and not anyone else's, is too powerful, and interpreted it to be like the spell charm, necessitating a saving throw. It is kind of bumming me out thinking about what it would mean when a redemption paladin thumps you to 0, offers you his hand, and you save your throw, meaning you, what, bite off your tongue and choke to death rather than be my friend for one drat minute? That's so bleak. Goddamn.

I like this goofy UA though. I got to sleep an attempted murderer and brought him back to town and gave him a lecture about not drowning children in lakes while I fed him and he nodded like a real lenny.

Krinkle fucked around with this message at 08:28 on Apr 21, 2017

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

From the DMG:

Yeah we used this system. It's tied into some character progression poo poo for my warlock. I'll have an opportunity to get Greater Restoration through something other than level progression or casting as a service, but it'll probably be a couple levels.

At least I rolled the one about being incapable of taking poo poo seriously instead of wanting to kill everyone. Hell, if I'd rolled the one about paranoia, there would have been basically zero change.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Dracula Factory posted:

Has anyone tried the new UA rules for rangers? I've always wanted to play a bow specialist/outdoorsman type but vanilla rangers are just trash compared to fighters, and the UA rules seem to make them a bit more competitive and interesting.
My dude's level 4 and so far it's an archer fighter++ who hands out goodberries like candy and has decent out of combat utility. It's solidly mid tier, go for it. You'll still be laughably outclassed by any full caster obviously but that's D&D.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Nehru the Damaja posted:

So I just took on permanent madness that requires greater restoration to fix.

Our party is level 3.

did you do this on purpose because it sounds like a dick rule

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

mastershakeman posted:

did you do this on purpose because it sounds like a dick rule

It was the DM's doing. I've thrown out some vague ideas of things I'd like to do and how I see the character acting and DM has rolled with some of it. DM asked out of game if I'd be down with a prolonged period of madness and I said if it worked with the story, sure. So I was briefly projected through time and space and came face to face with my Great Old One.

Character can still act intelligently and work to defend himself and such. It's just the gravity of everything eludes him right now. I'm not gonna be all fishmalk about it.

I got the result to take nothing seriously and laugh more the worse things get. Fortunately, Twitter has trained me at this for years.

Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Apr 21, 2017

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Single-user poll written in ink:
"Varis's Journal:
Are we all gonna die
[ ] yeah lol
[X] he'll yeah"

"Varis's Journal:
love too struggle against inevitable world-death and also bRaIn PrObLeMs"

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Dracula Factory posted:

Has anyone tried the new UA rules for rangers? I've always wanted to play a bow specialist/outdoorsman type but vanilla rangers are just trash compared to fighters, and the UA rules seem to make them a bit more competitive and interesting.

Revised Ranger is decent but also incredibly frontloaded so it's probably still the smartest to get like 5 levels in Deep Stalker to get all the good stuff and go Fighter otherwise.

P.d0t
Dec 27, 2007
I released my finger from the trigger, and then it was over...

Krinkle posted:

Okay for the Redemption Paladin your armor class if you are naked starts at 16 and goes up with your dex, so you want good dex, but there are no simple melee bludgeoning weapons that use dexterity so you also need strength.[/b] I don't want to just be using my jesus radiance until I find a suit of plate mail. I want to be naked forever but pumping dex will never help me tag someone with my friendship stick. It's kind of a weird awkward impossible to synergize stat allocation. I guess I could subclass into monk for a dex based quarterstaff but then what's the point of the naked AC quirk?

Makes Sense™

Whatever cosplay you're trying to emulate with this oath clearly isn't gonna work; not sure why you're hung up on using this particular weapon type, when paladins get proficiency with every weapon in the game.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

P.d0t posted:

Makes Sense™

Whatever cosplay you're trying to emulate with this oath clearly isn't gonna work; not sure why you're hung up on using this particular weapon type, when paladins get proficiency with every weapon in the game.
The "Beat the friendship into you" power only works if you use a simple melee bludgeoning

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Splicer posted:

The "Beat the friendship into you" power only works if you use a simple melee bludgeoning
The DM's job is to ignore rules like this one. (You could say "I hit him with the butt of my sword" if you wanted.)

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Indefinite madness is not a super big deal. As it's a character flaw rather then mechanical. You are actually supposed to get inspiration for properly representing it.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

The DM's job is to ignore rules like this one. (You could say "I hit him with the butt of my sword" if you wanted.)

I hit him with the butt of my rapier. There are no martial bludgeoning finesse weapons either. You gotta be a monk before you can thump someone dexterously.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
It doesn't take a trained fighter to figure out how to smack someone with the flat of the blade. Honestly the rules about who can use what weapons are kinda all over the place, I think they should mostly be ignored outside the huge stuff.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



DND needs more German swordsmanship anyway. Lemme grab my blade to beat the poo poo out of someone with the blunt end of it. Knowing Mearls he'd make you make the same damage or some poo poo though.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Also how would you interpret the "stick thumps = charmed" mechanic when I can quadruple my damage output from a stick with a divine smite. Is this mostly a burning attack at this point and it wouldn't make them love me? Or does my god's love just help the friendship stick along?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Krinkle posted:

I hit him with the butt of my rapier. There are no martial bludgeoning finesse weapons either. You gotta be a monk before you can thump someone dexterously.

Isn't this rather explicitly why they started putting basket hilts on rapiers?

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Pretty sure those were more of a, keep your fingers from being cut off if the dude swung at them and managed to hit. Not all rapiers were pointy metal sticks but had actual edges to them as well.

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007
Do your FISTS count as bludgeoning dexterous weapons?

Just punch them until they are your friends.

Then get some spiked gauntlets so that you can become even better at friend-punching people.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

The Saddest Robot posted:

Do your FISTS count as bludgeoning dexterous weapons?

Just punch them until they are your friends.

Then get some spiked gauntlets so that you can become even better at friend-punching people.

Unarmed only keys off DEX if you're a monk.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

The Saddest Robot posted:

Do your FISTS count as bludgeoning dexterous weapons?

Just punch them until they are your friends.

Then get some spiked gauntlets so that you can become even better at friend-punching people.

I'm envisioning someone beating the ever loving poo poo out of somebody with a Macuahuitl screaming "ARE YOU MY FRIEND YET!?" while they slowly bleed to death because it deals Slashing and bludgeoning.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


My guy hugged a vampire spawn, and we couldn't keep him down, and when he did go down it was to someone else, so he's not charmable. So I'm dripping blood from a pricked thumb into his mouth trying to wake him up so I can try to thump him into being my friend again and I"m just feeling like the biggest heel trying to game this mechanic. The dm was like okay his wounds heal up and he's still out cold, boy he looks like he could rip a throat out and is dreaming of this, he's licking his little vampire teeth in his dream of eating everyone, and I got the feeling I wasn't going to get to have a vampire friend this way.

I imagined the next half hour boiled down to just reviving and thumping a vampire over and over again trying to get it just right where he's gonna, what, beg me for more blood? If you were my friend you'd hook me up, man. You can be good friends with a meth addict and he'll still steal your tv. I felt like I was wasting everyone's time and gave up on that plan and just let the ranger coup de grace him.

But this week I got to mediate between the party tearing itself apart. I used my Rebuke the Violent channeled divinity to mirror some damage back on the ranger who shot our warlock with a divine spanking of KNOCK THAT OFF. And I slept an NPC to find another peaceful solution. I'm taking Raandyy's example and showing the forgotten realms a more peaceful way.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Quick question about monks having extra attack. Do you then get extra free punches? Attack punch attack punch? or just attack attack punch (spend ki for extra punch here)

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Unarmed strike is a bonus action, so extra attack would be attack attack punch

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Generic Octopus
Mar 27, 2010

Krinkle posted:

Quick question about monks having extra attack. Do you then get extra free punches? Attack punch attack punch? or just attack attack punch (spend ki for extra punch here)

Martial Arts & Flurry of Blows can be used when you use the Attack Action, not whenever you Attack. Extra Attack grants you a second Attack when you take the Attack Action. So the flow would be Attack->Attack->Unarmed->Unarmed (stop at the first Unarmed if not using Flurry).

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