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The Sherman is objectively the best tank and I will crush anybody who says otherwise under my endless tide of easy to maintain interchangeable parts
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Apr 22, 2017 05:13
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Crazycryodude posted:The Sherman is objectively the best tank and I will crush anybody who says otherwise under my endless tide of easy to maintain interchangeable parts if unthinkable went forward what do you think the exchange rate of shermans:IS2s would have been
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Apr 22, 2017 05:56
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HannibalBarca posted:if unthinkable went forward what do you think the exchange rate of shermans:IS2s would have been The better question would be the [usa]sherman:[ussr]sherman exchange rate, seeing as how the russians where running mountains of lend lease american tanks
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Apr 22, 2017 06:18
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HannibalBarca posted:if unthinkable went forward what do you think the exchange rate of shermans:IS2s would have been Three Shermans killed as a distraction for the British up-gunned Sherman to drive around the IS2 and kill it. zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 07:54
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 Burning is what he was known best for
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Apr 22, 2017 08:16
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HannibalBarca posted:if unthinkable went forward what do you think the exchange rate of shermans:IS2s would have been Considering tank on tank combat was so rare it is always going to be a win for the sherman. US logistical support, tank reliability, and a massive advantage in things like burn rate, crew comfort, and communications are always going to tell. The only thing the soviets had going for them comparatively were a much more experienced military and better operational planning but had the war gone on another 2-4 years the US could have caught up with that too. Lend lease wise the biggest thing for the soviets was shells, lack of artillery rounds was the basic limitation for them being able to sustain offensive tempo '43 onward. Without lend lease the soviets would have still won ww2, it just would have taken them 2 more years to do it. So you take that out of the equation vs the US and it is going to be a problem for Stalin.
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Apr 22, 2017 10:59
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For anyone curious of how much direct military support went to Russia- https://ww2-weapons.com/lend-lease-tanks-and-aircrafts/ The British also gave the Soviets jet engine technology which may not have been the greatest idea in hindsight... whitewhale fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 14:35
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Eh, it's not like they wouldn't have either stolen it or developed it on their own a few years later, anyways. Oh, and Sherman wins I'd say... 6-8 times out of 10 against the IS-2 if it's real life, because the Americans can bring their obscene industrial might around so that the IS-2 is outnumbered 5:1 and probably got killed by a fighter-bomber, AT gun, or artillery strike before it even saw the Sherman to begin with. Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 15:22
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I don't even know if it was considered secret tech. They were playing around with (unsuccessful) jet turbines in Italy in the 20s. It might have just been an engineering acceleration program.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:34
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dtkozl posted:Lend lease wise the biggest thing for the soviets was shells, lack of artillery rounds was the basic limitation for them being able to sustain offensive tempo '43 onward. Without lend lease the soviets would have still won ww2, it just would have taken them 2 more years to do it. So you take that out of the equation vs the US and it is going to be a problem for Stalin. I've also heard (I think from this thread or its previous incarnation) that high octane aviation fuel would have been a huge issue for the Soviets had Lend-Lease been stopped.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:27
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Yeah there was basically no way the allies would win.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:37
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   The captain (and crew) of this sub are going down in legend. Most likely because they are never coming home.  Wait. They pulled the tanks out and left the infantry to die? That's cold.   Only one kill? I'm disappointed!   Okay, today was short but interesting – drum roll please.......  Oh yeah baby. That's the stuff.  You can make it home! We believe in you!
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Apr 22, 2017 17:35
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As long as they don't hit rough seas, run into a convoy, get spotted by a sea-plane, or have to dive for any reason at all ever, they might survive.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:01
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#IStandWithI-21
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Apr 22, 2017 18:06
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Thank goodness the sub isn't on fire.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:07
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BBs are just steel coffins when the Croctopus is about.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:31
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Night10194 posted:BBs are just steel coffins when the Croctopus is about. And sometimes he sinks enemy ones as well!
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Apr 22, 2017 19:06
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Night10194 posted:BBs are just steel coffins when the Croctopus is about. Aircraft carriers more than battleships as well as every single large transport that the Allies have. Basically everything in the South Pacific is a floating coffin.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:36
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Not just a coffin, but often an exploding coffin too! gently caress, now it feels like being buried or cremated when I die is just boring. I want an exploding coffin funeral.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:42
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Will we continue getting I 21 updates?
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Apr 22, 2017 19:48
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For comparison, BB Royal Sovereign is about twice as long and 15 times as heavy as I-21.
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Apr 22, 2017 21:24
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megane posted:For comparison, BB Royal Sovereign is about twice as long and 15 times as heavy as I-21. Yes, but how does it compare to a six foot tall person?
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Apr 22, 2017 21:43
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BB Royal Sovereign is approximately 100 times as long and 300,000 times as heavy as an adult human. 
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Apr 22, 2017 22:28
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They pulled out the combat squads too (and most of the support), they just left some phone sanitizers and journalists behind.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:40
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megane posted:BB Royal Sovereign is approximately 100 times as long and 300,000 times as heavy as an adult human. So only 30,000 times heavier than the average goon.  I do have the question; what are the changes of the japanese lasting longer than in real life?
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Apr 22, 2017 22:42
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The unit was destroyed with only 61 casualties. They left behind a field hospital.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:45
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I was like wait only 15 times that can't be right but holy poo poo the Type B1 class is ginormous compared to a VII or IX.
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Apr 22, 2017 22:46
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HannibalBarca posted:#IStandWithI-21
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Apr 22, 2017 23:59
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Is it possible that I could be put down for the USS Manlove as a lucky ship? That is if it's in the game.
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Apr 23, 2017 00:49
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Reuben Sandwich posted:Is it possible that I could be put down for the USS Manlove as a lucky ship? That is if it's in the game. Done
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Apr 23, 2017 02:38
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Stago Lego posted:So only 30,000 times heavier than the average goon. By this point pretty good, Grey pulled off a reverse Midway by sinking those US carriers and continues to pick off important Allied ships as they trickle into theatre piecemeal. By this point in real life the IJN was already a shell of its former self thanks to the loss of some really important ships and aircrews, and Grey has mostly managed to avoid that which means he'll be more capable of contesting Allied landings in the future. To actually win he'll need a few more decisive battle victories, but it's certainly possible for him to hold out longer than historical Japan at this point.
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Apr 23, 2017 02:37
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Donkringel posted:Will we continue getting I 21 updates? I want this too. Even if its just reporting it's going down tomorrow, a hit like that deserves to know the end result of the ship and crew.
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Apr 23, 2017 04:03
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My bet is on I-21 barely limping back to base, getting repaired, then in '44 going on to miss the Yorktown but somehow sink Hawaii the next day.
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Apr 23, 2017 04:13
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Wow, congrats! How.. Many BB's have you picked off over in Noumea in the last month or so?
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Apr 23, 2017 07:34
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Reuben Sandwich posted:Is it possible that I could be put down for the USS Manlove as a lucky ship? That is if it's in the game. quote:Manlove was named after electrician Arthur Cleon Manlove who was killed aboard the Arizona when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Oh, okay, that makes sense.
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Apr 23, 2017 08:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:Oh, okay, that makes sense. It's the Navy, you know they know that it's a great dual-purpose name.
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Apr 23, 2017 16:57
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  The daily air war continues.  We just keep whittling away.   I bet you thought I was joking a few days ago! Now its time to separate out the ones I can change theatre on an clear that railway. Then to Singapore and on to new warzones!  Its going to be interesting to see what kind of force I can pull out of China.  There is still the slow but steady drip of confirmations.
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Apr 23, 2017 17:21
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An op mode penalty/malus/negative, ouch.
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I guess they jumped off the train and immediately started shooting. I-21 status: Assumed not sunk.
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