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cinci zoo sniper posted:I see. I'll check the thread out. For reasons I'll mention below, I'm trying to figure out which of the two is more adequate option for someone mostly lacking the know-how. well i rose up through fake it till you make it, so i wish you luck
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:well i rose up through fake it till you make it, so i wish you luck
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You don't really need extensive training to do most things that fall under the accounting umbrella. Especially accounts receivable and accounts payables is often a position that can and will be filled with general clerks in smaller businesses with only the team or unit leader having formal degrees in business or accounting Even the big professional service firms (PwC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte) do not have nearly the high-standards in hiring their recruiting materials sometimes suggest. While in Europe they generally want university degrees, they (at least in their audit section) are usually more than happy to hire people regardless of their degrees, if the applicant makes a good impression. Because a lot of what they do is more based on practicial experience actually working the job instead of what has been taught at university. That is not to say there isn't technical knowledge you'd have to learn, but by and large business degrees in Europe do not actually teach the specialized knowledge required for Audit or Tax work at a professional service firm.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:not that i particularly wish for an accounting career in latvia, or any career in latvia for that matter, but im really getting bored in the countryside, so might as well make next few months financially productive, should an opportunity present itself haha, yes, i thought the same way when i started sure it was a soulless occupation that i loathed, but i would only be there for a few weeks to make some cash and then move on. there was no way i'd still be there two plus years later, slowly working my way up the corporate ladder and keeping an eye on a 401k
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:haha, yes, i thought the same way when i started don't get me wrong, im ready to do any kind of poo poo or dull job, given appropriate compensation. i just intensely loathe latvia, and do not know much about professional life of an accountant in latvia
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it's very zero-sum type of affair here. i german juniors make more than latvian "mediors", swedish juniors make more than latvian seniors
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:haha, yes, i thought the same way when i started I hope you get to park ranger someday. The hiring freeze is gone but the government is also going to shut down again this year most likely. And I don't think nps is getting any money this presidency after the inauguration incident
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If you have down time anyway, you might as well try to get an internship or, if you're lucky, a position at one the aforementioned professional service firms and toil in the Audit mines for a bit. If you can get a PhD spot you can still abandon ship in case it is a position while if it is an internship you could probably use that as proof of your sincere and life-long interest in accounting should you end up in a similiar job situation post-PhD. And if it's an internship you could just not mention it for job applications that are closer to your degree. And in the unfortunate situation that you will not be able to escape the Audit mines in time and succumb to a life time of white collar work in accounting/finance, working for one of the big professional service firms might make it easier to transition to a non-Latvian country at a later point. Especially given that you're probably well-equipped in the language department.
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Randler posted:You don't really need extensive training to do most things that fall under the accounting umbrella. Especially accounts receivable and accounts payables is often a position that can and will be filled with general clerks in smaller businesses with only the team or unit leader having formal degrees in business or accounting Interesting. Corresponds the jobs rear end I have gone through recently as well - very few accounting/financial service jobs with foreign enterprises asked for actual degrees. At most it was "bachelor in money or business things or similar". Same Deloitte you mention is hiring an auditor now, and they ask only for experience, if I remember correctly.
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i feel as though career advice offered by randler carries some hidden toxin
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Randler posted:If you have down time anyway, you might as well try to get an internship or, if you're lucky, a position at one the aforementioned professional service firms and toil in the Audit mines for a bit. If you can get a PhD spot you can still abandon ship in case it is a position while if it is an internship you could probably use that as proof of your sincere and life-long interest in accounting should you end up in a similiar job situation post-PhD. And if it's an internship you could just not mention it for job applications that are closer to your degree. languages yes, i have cefr c2 english certificate formal equivalent, recognised anywhere. internships is a good point you make, i will scout emea "le company" opportunities later today, since there ought to be a big competition and waiting list for those
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V. Illych L. posted:i feel as though career advice offered by randler carries some hidden toxin tough words from accidental lumber thief
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Like, at the job interview everything is going just fine and suddenly lightning strikes and the curtains are thrown back, revealing a sniggering vulture as you are carted off to forced paperwork in some camp
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Being a staff accountant doing A/R, A/P, accruals, etc. is pretty boring as poo poo. Did it for 3.5 years, and I'm glad that I don't have to do it again.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Interesting. Corresponds the jobs rear end I have gone through recently as well - very few accounting/financial service jobs with foreign enterprises asked for actual degrees. At most it was "bachelor in money or business things or similar". Same Deloitte you mention is hiring an auditor now, and they ask only for experience, if I remember correctly. kals do not let him trick you, signing with any of the big four immediately earns you a spot in hell
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:kals do not let him trick you, signing with any of the big four immediately earns you a spot in hell 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:languages yes, i have cefr c2 english certificate formal equivalent, recognised anywhere. you could also have them contact me and i will vouch for your ability to talk english good
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:kals do not let him trick you, signing with any of the big four immediately earns you a spot in hell Show me on the court docket where PwC forwarded the report on your expenses to the CFO. 
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Randler posted:Show me on the court docket where PwC forwarded the report on your expenses to the CFO. my wariness goes back further, to the days when i was a small child and my cfo father would regale my with stories of the satanic pentagram tattoos and forked tails of the auditors from deloitte & touche
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:my wariness goes back further, to the days when i was a small child and my cfo father would regale my with stories of the satanic pentagram tattoos and forked tails of the auditors from deloitte & touche Guess that explains how Deloitte can barely sustain itself on sacred German ground.
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i think two of my keets are sick
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Randler posted:Guess that explains how Deloitte can barely sustain itself on sacred German ground. 
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lol on the topic of the striped menace i just had a sudden premonition that something was not right, and i went out to the keet box to find that one of the keets had fallen onto its back and while trying to get up had somehow kicked its way into the gap between the brooder and the box wall, where it fit with mathematical precision, still on its back, and although it isn't injured in any way beyond being a bit cross it would have died of hypothermia before morning if i hadn't checked it when i did. keets!
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Avshalom posted:i think two of my keets are sick Which ones
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:a kid in atlanta just died at a rotating restaurant because they managed to worm their way into a gap between the moving floor and the stationary wall, it's by no means a purely keet phenomena wait are you saying that a child just got turned into mince by a public construction? 
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weather report: pea sized hail for 2 minutes every 20 minutes
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Avshalom posted:i think two of my keets are sick those are two american keets
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exmarx posted:i'm watching a very secret service and it's good it's like archer, if archer was meaner & didn't run jokes into the ground & was in french
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cinci zoo sniper posted:wait are you saying that a child just got turned into mince by a public construction? they stopped the machinery before it got too gorey, but not before the child received fatal injuries
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https://twitter.com/thediyora/status/765991803011076096
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gently caress, how do i loving stay awake this late every loving night
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:gently caress, how do i loving stay awake this late every loving night i wonder this about you too. i sleep 2-10 usually, and you keep posting for enough hours after im up that it ought to be a night even on the west coast
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:gently caress, how do i loving stay awake this late every loving night Ur a broken human gojm Sorry
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i'm amazed this guy wasn't elected cinci zoo sniper posted:i wonder this about you too. i sleep 2-10 usually, and you keep posting for enough hours after im up that it ought to be a night even on the west coast it's almost morning on the west coast, somehow my sleep pattern has devolved into a short nap in the early evening and a short nap in the early morning and much bleariness at all other times
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V. Illych L. posted:Ur a broken human gojm *putting 400£ professional graphic design tool used for playing a niche rhythm game* h-how can it be true?!
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i'm amazed this guy wasn't elected sounds about right if i remember my early college years. i used to play like 120 hours per week
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quiz https://8values.github.io 
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V. Illych L. posted:Ur a broken human gojm He's actually a *sotte voce* manager.
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