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He got his magic longsword. That's SO much better.
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CottonWolf posted:He got his magic longsword. That's SO much better. And a badass cape. Hell yes, Battler is back in action.
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resurgam40 posted:What? ... What!? Not only is he alive again, but he's a goddamn- WHAT?!? "No! I must deny the witches!" Battler Ushiromiya shouted Lambadelta said "No, Battler. You are the witches" And then Battler Ushiromiya was the Endless Sorcerer.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:31
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So we've gone from trying to disprove witches to becoming a witch to disprove a fantasy in a mystery story. What's next, going full meta and acknowledging the fantasy of the story we're reading in this LP to make a point about love or something?
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Apr 22, 2017 16:34
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bman in 2288 posted:So we've gone from trying to disprove witches to becoming a witch to disprove a fantasy in a mystery story. What's next, going full meta and acknowledging the fantasy of the story we're reading in this LP to make a point about love or something? Yep. In chapter 7, meta -Bern and -Lambda are going to start posting about themselves in this thread, revealing that they were just playthings of the true culprit, ProfessorProf.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:44
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CottonWolf posted:Yep. In chapter 7, meta -Bern and -Lambda are going to start posting about themselves in this thread, revealing that they were just playthings of the true culprit, ProfessorProf. I'm okay with this since it means we'll get a Meta-Battler at some point.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:47
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ProfessorProf posted:From the manga version of this scene: I was really hoping there would be a Sailor Moon transformation, but gaining Kinzo's cape and the goofy magic longsword is pretty great too so I can't be mad. I can't believe we haven't even finished episode 5 yet, this has just barely started. Fabulousvillain fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 16:50
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bman in 2288 posted:So we've gone from trying to disprove witches to becoming a witch to disprove a fantasy in a mystery story. What's next, going full meta and acknowledging the fantasy of the story we're reading in this LP to make a point about love or something?
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Apr 22, 2017 17:02
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Yes yes yes it's time 
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Apr 22, 2017 17:39
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did not expect Battler to become a magical boy
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Apr 22, 2017 17:44
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Haven't seen a boy this magical since Star Driver. I am incredibly hype
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Apr 22, 2017 17:51
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THIS IS IMPORTANT. This is a guarantee that the mystery is completely 100% solvable now. In fact, the author has stated that the mystery is solvable using only information from episodes 1-4 (not that I know of anybody who actually managed that).
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Apr 22, 2017 17:54
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Think of it as instead of going magic is real more of its I know what to do and its my turn to tell this story, which someone made with Love
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Apr 22, 2017 18:09
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lotus circle posted:"No! I must deny the witches!" Battler Ushiromiya shouted Tired Moritz posted:did not expect Battler to become a magical boy Battler is going to be the best witch.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:12
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Alopex posted:I cried a little. I cried a lot.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:31
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The cape look is cool and all, but witches have a well established visual style. I demand Battler in a fancy dress immediately.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:32
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I just want you all to know that I loving called Battler becoming a wizard, all the way back in EP2.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:13
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Aisu posted:The cape look is cool and all, but witches have a well established visual style. I demand Battler in a fancy dress immediately. He's a sorcerer.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:14
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Rodyle posted:He's a sorcerer. this makes a lot of sense. his Charisma is much higher than his Intelligence.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:23
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RedMagus posted:this makes a lot of sense. his Charisma is much higher than his Intelligence. Now now, his INT is fine. It's his WIS he used as a dump stat.
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Apr 22, 2017 19:25
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Apr 22, 2017 19:41
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Cyouni posted:We know the whydunnit is solvable, and I will continue to insist that the motive is Shannon's. Attempting to remind Battler of his broken promise (in English) six years ago. Tender Child Loins posted:Which begs the question of why the gently caress anyone would take on a 6-year-old servant. Wasn't it stated before that the Fukuin kids only get to work on Rokkenjima if they are at the top of their classes? Surely that didn't mean "shoelace tying" or "recorder playing" classes or whatever first graders do. According to episode 1, Kanon's been employed as a servant for 3 years as of the current events. That makes sense. A 13 year old servant is reasonable. A 6 year old servant is not. This implies that Shannon's situation is unusual. Why would they employ her from 6 years old? It makes no sense. So, to elaborate on the dark theory that I mentioned about earlier. Shannon is the cliff baby. We didn't think about this earlier because, obviously, the cliff baby is male. But that's never stated in red. The caller is a man, according to the narration. But Lambda's seen making the phone call, she clearly has a girlish voice. Maybe the narration's just a lie in the same way that the goats are. Natsuhi never once refers to it as anything other than "the baby". Even in the flashback it's never given a sex. If Shannon were the cliff baby, this makes multiple things make more sense. She's 19 instead of 16. When Shannon started as a servant, she'd therefore be 9 instead of 6. Still young, but not completely insanely so. It also means that Battler's promise would be to a 13 year old rather than a 10 year old, which might heighten the emotions somewhat. But still, if she were happy with her life, you'd probably not obsess over some throwaway promise a boy made to you 6 years ago. Why would she be unhappy? Beyond the fact that she's on Rokkenjima with a bunch of crazy people. Well, to go back to our previous theories, what if Shannon were also Kinzo's and Beatrice II's child? Kinzo's a crazy obsessive and possibly a sexual abuser, depending on how deep the rabbit-hole goes. If this is right, Shannon's Kinzo's last possible attachment to Beatrice, how dark an end point you want to follow that conclusion to, I'll leave up to you. But if that's the case, Shannon's been trapped on an island with her possible abuser for 17 years, until his death. Battler's promise gave her hope of escape, but then he never came back, and then she was trapped with Kinzo for another 4 years... I think that explains the weight of the betrayal. Even if he could never have possibly had the power to do anything about it, being a child too.
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CottonWolf posted:Well, to go back to our previous theories, what if Shannon were also Kinzo's and Beatrice II's child? Kinzo's a crazy obsessive and possibly a sexual abuser, depending on how deep the rabbit-hole goes. If this is right, Shannon's Kinzo's last possible attachment to Beatrice, how dark an end point you want to follow that conclusion to, I'll leave up to you. But if that's the case, Shannon's been trapped on an island with her possible abuser for 17 years, until his death. Battler's promise gave her hope of escape, but then he never came back, and then she was trapped with Kinzo for another 4 years... I think that explains the weight of the betrayal. Even if he could never have possibly had the power to do anything about it, being a child too. If cliff baby was a girl, why would Kinzo give her away to Natsushi rather than starting his Princess Maker project over again? -- Episode three thoughts: George's profile says he sold his soul (exact words are "in exchange for his soul") for an 8-digit number, which we know is a PIN to a vault containing at least 2 billion yen total. What does sold his soul mean in the a completely non-magical serial murder scenario? The obvious is it means agreeing to cooperate with the murderer(s). We've already seen George say he's willing to throw away everyone else. So, George sneaks out the window and goes to the parlor where he meets a still living Sayo and not-Kanon/Beatrice. He agrees not to turn them in and play along in exchange for enough money for him and Sayo to live comfortably for the rest of their lives. At this point not-Kanon/Beatrice kills George and Sayo anyway or George agrees to abandon his family, his name, and any rights to Kinzo's estate in order to live out the rest of his life with the woman he loves.
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ProfessorProf posted:Video added to LP: Goodbye  
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ZiegeDame posted:Episode three thoughts: George's profile says he sold his soul (exact words are "in exchange for his soul") for an 8-digit number, which we know is a PIN to a vault containing at least 2 billion yen total. What does sold his soul mean in the a completely non-magical serial murder scenario? The obvious is it means agreeing to cooperate with the murderer(s). We've already seen George say he's willing to throw away everyone else. So, George sneaks out the window and goes to the parlor where he meets a still living Sayo and not-Kanon/Beatrice. He agrees not to turn them in and play along in exchange for enough money for him and Sayo to live comfortably for the rest of their lives. At this point not-Kanon/Beatrice kills George and Sayo anyway or George agrees to abandon his family, his name, and any rights to Kinzo's estate in order to live out the rest of his life with the woman he loves. We've still not solved the meaning of that number yet, either. The first half's Battler's birthday, which might be a coincidence, but seems unlikely. But we still don't have a good candidate for the second half that I can think of. ZiegeDame posted:If cliff baby was a girl, why would Kinzo give her away to Natsushi rather than starting his Princess Maker project over again? Lets him skip the effort of hiding her? Plus he'd need someone to raise her, and Beatrice II's dead. CottonWolf fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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CottonWolf posted:We've still not solved the meaning of that number yet, either. The first half's Battler's birthday, which might be a coincidence, but seems unlikely. But we still don't have a good candidate for the second half that I can think of. Is the family conference always held on the first weekend in October? Could Battler have made his promise on November 29th? Could it be the day Rosa met Beatrice? Could Kanon have simply lied to Jessica about his birthday? Could it be the day modern-day Beatrice was 'born' as a delayed result of Battler's sin? Could it mean absolutely nothing at all? CottonWolf posted:Lets him skip the effort of hiding her? Plus he'd need someone to raise her, and Beatrice II's dead. Kumasawa and Genji aren't.
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Truly, watching goons react to the end of Episode 5 is greater than the finest tea.Aisu posted:The cape look is cool and all, but witches have a well established visual style. I demand Battler in a fancy dress immediately. Fabulousvillain posted:I was really hoping there would be a Sailor Moon transformation Tender Child Loins posted:I'm on the edge of my seat, hoping that at least some of my reasoning is on point and that Battler is gonna drop that knowledge with a vengeance. More importantly, why doesn't he get a cool costume change a la EVA? A cute dress? At least a staff or something, geez. 
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tiistai posted:Oh how I laughed Well... he is kind of a bad detective, right? Oh, well.
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Me rn http://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FQEOy4zEVFoU
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ZiegeDame posted:Is the family conference always held on the first weekend in October?
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Umineko has the best memes.
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CottonWolf posted:We've still not solved the meaning of that number yet, either. The first half's Battler's birthday, which might be a coincidence, but seems unlikely. But we still don't have a good candidate for the second half that I can think of. Uh I though we had the number revealed back in episode 4. It's a bank code for a bunch of money.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Uh I though we had the number revealed back in episode 4. It's a bank code for a bunch of money. Oh yeah. The stuff the survivors families got, right? E: That doesn't rule out the number having significance too though.
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Wait. Huh. What was the truth Battler reached? How did thinking about without love it cannot be seen reveal everything to him suddenly? I don't understand how he applied that sentence to everything. WHAT?!
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CottonWolf posted:Oh yeah. The stuff the survivors families got, right? On the contrary, it might increase the chance of it having significance. People do that with important passwords all the time.
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Artificer posted:Wait. Huh. What was the truth Battler reached? How did thinking about without love it cannot be seen reveal everything to him suddenly? I don't understand how he applied that sentence to everything. As for the truth, obviously he realized witches are the culprit and became a witch at this discovery.
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Artificer posted:Wait. Huh. What was the truth Battler reached? How did thinking about without love it cannot be seen reveal everything to him suddenly? I don't understand how he applied that sentence to everything. Without 'love', the truth behind the game cannot be seen. Given how love has been defined in the conversation between Battler and Dlanor, it makes sense to solve the mystery off that.
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The truth of this game is that Battler committed all the murders so that he could obtain enough magical power to banish pants from all the pretty girls who aren't directly related to him; the reason the reason Cornelia and Gertrude appeared in Battler's thoughts is because they're already part of his pantless furniture. Now that Lambdadelta has acknowledged him, not even the witches can stop this madman and his anti-pants crusade. Incidentally, is the mystery that Battler's supposed to be able to solve really the murders? I can't help but think that the real mystery is about Beato herself, or maybe the family as a whole, since Beato herself doesn't know why the murders are going down in this iteration. If that really is the case, the murders probably don't follow all of Knox's rules, which might be something to keep in mind. thetruegentleman fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Apr 22, 2017 22:48
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thetruegentleman posted:The truth of this game is that Battler committed all the murders so that he could obtain enough magical power to banish pants from all the pretty girls who aren't directly related to him; the reason the reason Cornelia and Gertrude appeared in Battler's thoughts is because they're already part of his pantless furniture. Now that Lambdadelta has acknowledged him, not even the witches can stop this madman and his anti-pants crusade. We know that can't be it, because he wouldn't exclude his relatives.
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CottonWolf posted:Oh yeah. The stuff the survivors families got, right? Well the dead's families got the money. Only Eva survived after all.
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