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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Kalenn Istarion posted:

No, I grabbed the angle that's relevant and shows the target height of impact. That ovi's knee gets hit is incidental to the hip check, sucks that he was hurt for 60s or so but still not an illegal check

The knee determines everything.

NHL Rulebook posted:

A player may not deliver a check in a “clipping”
manner, nor lower his own body position to deliver
a check on or below an opponent’s knees.

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Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Chad Sexington posted:

LAS is going to be a juggernaut of shitposting in a few years too. It was civil through Game 4. Not sure what happened?

The series has become a bit more acrimonious because:

Ovi got flipped over, showed some tenderness in his knee, and Washington fans are mad

Tor got a penalty for said flipping and while it looked like it hurt it arguably shouldn't have been a penalty under the current rules

Kadri got a two hander in the back of the knee and Toronto fans are mad

Ovi was charging everyone like a goober after he got back from getting his knee checked out

Etc etc

DuhSal
Aug 16, 2004

I will, brother. I promise.



Pillbug

Chad Sexington posted:

LAS is going to be a juggernaut of shitposting in a few years too. It was civil through Game 4. Not sure what happened?


I was civil :colbert: Also I found most of the regulars were civil but you had the odd playoff poster or other person just going off the rails. That's what a hit like that does though.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

glynnenstein posted:

The knee determines everything.

No, the phrase you quoted is specifically about what the active player does - may not lower body to target. Again, while Ovi's knee took some impact or got hyperextended from thigh impact, Kadri didn't lower his body to target the knee

The reason I picked the picture above is it shows the height of his hips at the time of impact. His leg is fully extended and he is hip to hip. The example of clipping in the DPS vid has the active player with both knees very bent and he dips down and no part of his body contacts the target player above the bottom of the pants. They even say in the video about using the pants as the reference to judge whether it's a clip or not.

Kalenn Istarion fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Apr 22, 2017

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!
With Polak out LAS is confused about where to direct their ire.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Kalenn Istarion posted:

No, the phrase you quoted is specifically about what the active player does - may not lower body to target. Again, while Ovi's knee took some impact or got hyperextended from thigh impact, Kadri didn't lower his body to target the knee

The reason I picked the picture above is it shows the height of his hips at the time of impact. His leg is fully extended and he is hip to hip. The example of clipping in the DPS vid has the active player with both knees very bent and he dips down and no part of his body contacts the target player above the bottom of the pants. They even say in the video about using the pants as the reference to judge whether it's a clip or not.

Lol. "on an opponents knees" is talking about where he hits Ovi, dude.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Kalenn Istarion posted:

No, I grabbed the angle that's relevant and shows the target height of impact. That ovi's knee gets hit is incidental to the hip check, sucks that he was hurt for 60s or so but still not an illegal check

You also grabbed a shot that's like 4 frames after the actual first impact

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

if you find yourself being the only one arguing for the non dirtiness of a team's play ask yourself if it's a coincidence you also cheer for that team

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis

The Golden Man posted:

if you find yourself being the only one arguing for the non dirtiness of a team's play ask yourself if it's a coincidence you also cheer for that team
Draisaitl wasn't spearing, a love tap on the genitals is just how Germans say hello.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's been a long time since we had a debate like this, I miss those old is/isn't a dirty hit threads.

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

The Golden Man posted:

if you find yourself being the only one arguing for the non dirtiness of a team's play ask yourself if it's a coincidence you also cheer for that team

I'm not tho, I'm just arguing most frequently because I'm enjoying the debate :shrug:

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

Then I guess you got a whole bunch of other questions to ask yourself

whatis
Jun 6, 2012
the best part of the kadri hit was ovi getting mad and turning himself into a missile for the first few minutes of the 2nd period

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Galchenyuk back at wing. Beaulieu probably scratched. Fitting that we get eliminated tonight and we misuse our talent because they've been ruined by Therrien.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Xtanstic posted:

Galchenyuk back at wing. Beaulieu probably scratched. Fitting that we get eliminated tonight and we misuse our talent because they've been ruined by Therrien.

welp gg rags

e: And Shaw is injured so Flynn and McCarron are in :rip:

yellowcar fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Apr 22, 2017

JohnnyCanuck
May 28, 2004

Strong And/Or Free
As a Sens fan I have no idea how Pageau didn't trigger a penalty shot for Boston last night.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
I love how everyone forgets the Rangers are pretty bad at home.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


Davidson is good. Flynn is also good. This series is like "home advantage? more like home DISadvantage lmao".

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Xtanstic posted:

Galchenyuk back at wing. Beaulieu probably scratched. Fitting that we get eliminated tonight and we misuse our talent because they've been ruined by Therrien.

Fitting that Habs fans are still whining about Therrien months after he's been fired.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

yellowcar posted:

welp gg rags

e: And Shaw is injured so Flynn and McCarron are in :rip:

And yet Galchenyuk will remain on the wing based on practice lines

Jordan7hm posted:

Fitting that Habs fans are still whining about Therrien months after he's been fired.

Yeah it's not like he's the catalyst for PK loving Subban leaving or anything

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Taking notes on the chicken littles who don't get to be happy tonight if the Habs win.

Call Your Grandma
Jan 17, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!
PK's got to be pretty happy with the way things worked out between Therrien and himself. Now that he lives in the Southern U.S. he can enjoy warmer weather, a better chance at the cup, and less casual racism from his fans.

Mage_Boy
Dec 18, 2003

This hotdog is about as real as your story Steve Simmons




Call Your Grandma posted:

PK's got to be pretty happy with the way things worked out between Therrien and himself. Now that he lives in the Southern U.S. he can enjoy warmer weather, a better chance at the cup, and less casual racism from his fans.

And he seemed to have a good time at the end of the game when they swept Chicago too.

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


godspeed piquai souban. break the western conference over your knee

Porrima
Oct 18, 2012

The world is fucked
and so are you.

Thanks, humanity

Call Your Grandma posted:

PK's got to be pretty happy with the way things worked out between Therrien and himself. Now that he lives in the Southern U.S. he can enjoy warmer weather, a better chance at the cup, and less casual racism from his fans.

From a superficial european perspective, it´s really weird that a black man would get less casual racism in southern U.S than in eastern Canada - but it's not like the new world has a monopoly on being ignorant of how things really are like the other side of the pond.

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

Canada's way more racist than the south of America its insane

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Porrima posted:

From a superficial european perspective, it´s really weird that a black man would get less casual racism in southern U.S than in eastern Canada - but it's not like the new world has a monopoly on being ignorant of how things really are like the other side of the pond.

:thejoke:

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

Suspicious posted:

It was a dangerous hit no one would willingly skate into. But nothing will disrupt your mental narrative that Ovi is a mustache twirling villain, so carry on.

Ovi's no villain, he just plays on the NHL equivalent of the Cincinnati Bengals

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis

Porrima posted:

From a superficial european perspective, it´s really weird that a black man would get less casual racism in southern U.S than in eastern Canada - but it's not like the new world has a monopoly on being ignorant of how things really are like the other side of the pond.
Less casual racism. The racism in the south is all gentlemanly and courtly and formal and poo poo.

Porrima
Oct 18, 2012

The world is fucked
and so are you.

Thanks, humanity

:(

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007


Eh don't let her get to you. Anyone not living here would be hard pressed to realize that Blackface in the Quebecois arts scene is still a thing and still a problem and urhguarghruaghruh

Matt Zerella posted:

Taking notes on the chicken littles who don't get to be happy tonight if the Habs win.

I won't be happy because it'll set up the inevitable game 7 shitshow anyway :v:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Man, seeing the quotes (or gamesmanship) that are coming from the Sharks in this series is fun:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/855840283212304386

So a 7-0 win in Game 4 wasn't their best? I guess we better expect a 10-0 Sharks win tonight.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Xtanstic posted:

Eh don't let her get to you. Anyone not living here would be hard pressed to realize that Blackface in the Quebecois arts scene is still a thing and still a problem and urhguarghruaghruh


I won't be happy because it'll set up the inevitable game 7 shitshow anyway :v:

7 games would own. This series has been great.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Kilza posted:

Man, seeing the quotes (or gamesmanship) that are coming from the Sharks in this series is fun:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/855840283212304386

So a 7-0 win in Game 4 wasn't their best? I guess we better expect a 10-0 Sharks win tonight.

i remember watching that showtime 24/7 knockoff from last playoffs and basically every shot of deboer on the bench during the finals was him shouting that kind of thing at the sharks.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
ive seen him do like 4 postgame interviews and my opinion is cemented that hes a huge idiot

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Kilza posted:

Man, seeing the quotes (or gamesmanship) that are coming from the Sharks in this series is fun:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/855840283212304386

So a 7-0 win in Game 4 wasn't their best? I guess we better expect a 10-0 Sharks win tonight.

Perhaps the implication is that the Oilers played like poo poo? They only had 23SOG, took a load of penalties and went 0/4 on the PP themselves.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Kilza posted:

Man, seeing the quotes (or gamesmanship) that are coming from the Sharks in this series is fun:
https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/855840283212304386

So a 7-0 win in Game 4 wasn't their best? I guess we better expect a 10-0 Sharks win tonight.

Crushing a team that didn't show up isn't their best. Even the canucks could have beat the game 4 oilers, at home even.

e: roger place is sold out tonight. but they'll let you watch in the hallway for free! first come first serve, of course.

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/orange-crush-road-game-watch-party-sold-out/c-289024398

gently caress this poo poo. we'll never see affordable playoff tickets :(

Powershift fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Apr 22, 2017

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
when the leafs hit their stride and are a perennial playoff team they're gonna blow that away by charging people to stand outside watching tv and we'll all have a good laugh at the thousands of suckers who will actually pay

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av
The 'tailgate parties' that they charge money for when buffalo plays in Toronto arena good template

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Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Matt Zerella posted:

Taking notes on the chicken littles who don't get to be happy tonight if the Habs win.

I'll be happy if they win, I just don't see it happening.
And I won't be terribly happy if they do because it will be effort masking deeper issues.

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