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Thread's back https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/66xcve/why_was_upoisontacos_post_removed/dgm2upl/ quote:Automoderator auto-removes posts if it receives an excessive amount of reports. Sorry about that guys - it was never our intention to allow it to be removed, the bot just got a little too delete happy - the post is now visible again.
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DarkRefreshment posted:Can someone explain the Archer thing to me? I've got the general idea that it is blatantly ripping off someone's work, but I have a feeling there is a cool story I missed in the weeds somewhere. Ryan Archer was a CIG artist who did a lot of their promotional material and magazine stuff. What he did though was literally take either other people's art, or pictures, and just trace them. Not even use them as a reference, but actually just trace them; sometimes also just cut up the arms and legs in Photoshop to reposition them. Then he had the nerve to write: By Ryan Archer On them in some sort of ms paint looking addition. It was broadly suspected that he was the core "art thief" at CIG, but even after he left they are still continuing to steal art in this manner. So because of that, any time CIG is caught stealing some art, it's called "Archered". Hope this helps, friend.
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MinorInconvenience posted:I guess the distinction in my mind is the difference between "it is impossible from a technological standpoint" and "it is impossible because CIG are gently caress ups." I see lots of evidence of the later, I'm just looking for confirmation of the former. And if your blog dealt with that, then I apologize. Although, you do have a lot of blog entries to wade through there. No worries. A LOT of information is lost in translation. Basically, my Interstellar Citizens blog (the 1st one I wrote that got the ball rolling) stated these - and from a technology standpoint - it can't be done as pitched - even if it could be done, that would be the original vision pitched - it would take a competent team + publisher + proper tech + $150 million to pull off
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D_Smart posted:Thread's back It was my tweet that did it. https://twitter.com/Dzunner/status/855859628126740480
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Asema posted:I mean the game that the backers want exists in their loving imagination there is no way it will ever exist in reality
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D_Smart posted:Where have you been? And did you not read my July blog in which I - basically said this - in no uncertain terms. Like back in July 2015. Minor, you don't have to read the July blog. Just read the
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ManofManyAliases posted:Minor, you don't have to read the July blog. Just read the You're wrong. And furthermore http://dereksmart.com/2015/07/star-citizen-blogs/ 2017-03-27 – The Money Laundromat 2016-12-27 – Irreconcilable Differences 2016-10-13 – Shattered Dreams 2016-08-14 – Woman In Gaming. So What? 2016-08-12 – The War Of Attrition 2016-07-16 – The Refund Debacle 2016-07-06 – This War Of Mine 2016-06-22 – The Fidelity Of Failure 2016-05-20 – Condition Red 2016-05-06 – The INN Conspiracy 2016-04-12 – The Extinction Level Event 2016-01-02 – Squadron 42 – The Shafting 2015-11-18 – Star Citizen – Year Four 2015-11-04 – Interstellar Pirates <– Gizmondo connection discussed here 2015-10-06 – The End Game 2015-09-22 – The Long Con 2015-08-24 – Interstellar Breach 2015-08-07 – Interstellar Raiders 2015-07-17 – Interstellar Justice 2015-07-10 – Interstellar Discourse 2015-07-06 – Interstellar Citizens
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ManofManyAliases posted:Minor, you don't have to read the July blog. Just read the Yeah, you can trust MoMA on this MinorInconvenience. If there is somebody who reads every single sentence written by derek it is toast (Toast is MoMA, in case you didn't know). He's also an authority on belts, fine spirits, and handling hobo roommates (that sounds like a contradiction but it isn't!)
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D_Smart posted:You're wrong. And furthermore I wonder what all that would look like printed on nice heavyweight paper and custom hardbound covers sitting on a shelf next to a fireplace in a room that smells of expensive Scotch and Mahogany.
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These guys are such incredibly easy targetsquote:The new Merchantman concept art looks a lot bigger than the original  Most upvoted: quote:Seeing it next to the Defenders, which look pretty large themselves... no wonder the price jumped $100!
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trucutru posted:These guys are such incredibly easy targets The scale of that Space Gypsy Wagon is bigger than the original.
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This just might be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Even if you assume the author was being sarcastic, the upvotes...? SIgh. loving hopeless idiots.
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Flared Basic Bitch posted:
Loiosh is willing to pay any amount of money to obtain his gaming nirvana: managing a space passenger flight agency with a couple of pals
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The Titanic posted:Ryan Archer was a CIG artist who did a lot of their promotional material and magazine stuff. What he did though was literally take either other people's art, or pictures, and just trace them. Not even use them as a reference, but actually just trace them; sometimes also just cut up the arms and legs in Photoshop to reposition them. Then he had the nerve to write:    from: http://drakegroth.deviantart.com/art/Drake-Groth-180060304       there's more and it's worse e: his twitter pic is literally a floating fedora 
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Exciting new feature for 3.0: we will make the entire universe 10 times bigger! Bigger ships, bigger planets, bigger stations and bigger humans! Prices will be increased tenfold to compensate. You may not notice anything immediately, but that's just everything is in the same proportion. But the galaxy is no longer 16 septillion nautical miles, it is now 160 septillion nautical miles! You may now empty your wallets.
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Enchanted Hat posted:Exciting new feature for 3.0: we will make the entire universe 10 times bigger! Bigger ships, bigger planets, bigger stations and bigger humans! Prices will be increased tenfold to compensate. They already did this. It's the reason that none of Illfonic's work was the right scale to merge into the rest of the game
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It's a pretty easy way to milk more money out of people. Make something old new again by making it bigger, then sell it again with a premium so people think the cost is justified.
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Foo Diddley posted:They already did this. It's the reason that none of Illfonic's work was the right scale to merge into the rest of the game Well, poo poo. Looks like I'm no match for someone who has been the best marketing genius since before her arbitrary upscale.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It's a pretty easy way to milk more money out of people. Make something old new again by making it bigger, then sell it again with a premium so people think the cost is justified. I'm surprised they don't do this more blatantly, actually. Just make regular large increases to the prices of old ships to make old backers feel like smart investors, while pumping out new, cheaper concept ships for new customers. "Those goon retards thought I was a fool to buy a $100 ship DLC, but that ship is now worth $2,000 on CIG's store! I've made 1,900% profit on my investment! It's $30 on the grey market, but that'll pick up on release. I'm going to invest all my savings in these ships while they're cheap."
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LOL!! This poo poo is why WTFO is blacklisted by CIG and treated like a Red-headed stepchild - moron. https://clips.twitch.tv/GeniusExuberantConsoleTF2John
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Enchanted Hat posted:I'm surprised they don't do this more blatantly, actually. Just make regular large increases to the prices of old ships to make old backers feel like smart investors, while pumping out new, cheaper concept ships for new customers. thats why they lost their poo poo when they sold super hornets for like ten bucks cheaper that one time.
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Enchanted Hat posted:I'm surprised they don't do this more blatantly, actually. Just make regular large increases to the prices of old ships to make old backers feel like smart investors, while pumping out new, cheaper concept ships for new customers. They'd have to be careful, however. Price goes up too much and more money will get funneled into the weird gray market that seems to exist instead of into CIG's hands. People will buy multiple ships early and resell for a profit on the gray market.
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MinorInconvenience posted:They'd have to be careful, however. Price goes up too much and more money will get funneled into the weird gray market that seems to exist instead of into CIG's hands. People will buy multiple ships early and resell for a profit on the gray market. And this would be bad for them in any way shape or form because...
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Those 'accidental' deletions of controversial topics used to happen pretty often on the RSI forums too. That was their default fallback story when someone noticed it got deleted.
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hey remember when CIG banned a victim of sexual harrassment because of imaginary pretend scam spaceships
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HycoCam posted:Another angle--someone has an account creation tool. The first notion of an account creator being involved came back in the buy an AMD card get a voucher for Star Citizen days. There was a constant availability of AMD vouchers for a few years in the early days. There was speculation someone at AMD or a clever hacker was generating lots and lots of accounts. But of course the simplest solution is normally the right one--so someone from CIG marketing could very well be the person generating the accounts. Fast forward to the latest scam and it makes you scratch your head. If someone is simply generating random accounts for free the referral fee is pure profit. Plus there aren't any worries of getting arrested for legit credit card fraud. Here's the scam as I understand it: 1) Advertise that you will give X referrals for ~50% of the price of the accounts, i.e. 10 for $200. 2) Wait until someone sends you the cash. Now buy the accounts with their money plus a bit of your own. Use the person's referral code, they've got what they paid for. 3) You now own 10 accounts that you got at essentially half price. Sell them off at 70-80% normal price on the grey market, or convert to RSI cash and sell that off. This is where you begin to profit. 4) Extra scam step- refund your accounts.
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Sarsapariller posted:Here's the scam as I understand it: It's brilliant. Besides the existing Grey market, this is yet another reason why this scam of a project keeps financially afloat while not having a loving game developed after 6 years and $147m.
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 Lets hope CIG never just refactor and rape gamers for money (said at the moment $147 mill went *poof*). SC will definitely be worked on for another 10 years, easily, but it won't get to beta for at least another 15.  Who are these people? Why are they so funny? Why are they completely bankrupt of all common sense and logic?
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trucutru posted:And this would be bad for them in any way shape or form because... Money in the gray market doesn't go to CIG. I'd think that CIG would actually want to discount ships to keep the backers giving CIG the money. And in fact, isn't that what this warbonded poo poo I see them doing? Just spitballing here.
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Best part: My user on the ED Forums is also Risc1911. How he came up with me being this psyron guy i don't know.
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I am also a legit diagnosed lawyer, post your emails in the thread and I'll prove it by mailing you from my @lawyer.ru address
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Risc1911 posted:Best part: My user on the ED Forums is also Risc1911. How he came up with me being this psyron guy i don't know. he's an idiot.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I am also a legit diagnosed lawyer, post your emails in the thread and I'll prove it by mailing you from my @lawyer.ru address As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit.
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ManofManyAliases posted:Minor, you don't have to read the July blog. Just read the What do you think of the new space kitten? I think I asked before but you must have missed it.
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MinorInconvenience posted:Money in the gray market doesn't go to CIG. I'd think that CIG would actually want to discount ships to keep the backers giving CIG the money. And in fact, isn't that what this warbonded poo poo I see them doing? Just spitballing here. Dude, if you think that a good share of the gray market is not CIG itself (via streamers or employees getting free ships) then I have an Idris to sell you. And CIG want to *increase* the price of the ships to keep the backers giving them money. The "discounts" are on stuff that went up in price. You're still paying more than before, but thanks to the discount you can do it with cash. You don't seem like a really good lawyer, we are supposed to be able to see behind the bullshit. Around here the judge would just gasp in polite exasperation before ignoring you. Well, that may be an exaggeration, but nobody would invite you to Starbucks. Anyways, you may want to have one of these to play SC properly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubk3dvOdYzg&t=175s 
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