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ewe2 posted:I don't agree with it all, but interesting view: It credits Chibnall with the arc stuff at the start and finish of the Silurian two-parter, but I thought that those were the only 2 bits that were actually added by Moffat to the episode rather than written by Chibnall (and are, not coincidently, the only two bits you need to watch you can happily skip the rest of it). Of the nu-who episodes he has written, I think "Dinosaurs on a spaceship" is probably the only one I dont outright hate. Its not a great episode, but its mediocre and largely forgettable as opposed to his usual level of boring and terrible. The Silurian two parter isnt "unfairly assessed as the least of a good bunch" so much as bad episodes of television made to look worse by being in the middle of arguably the best season of Doctor Who ever (or at least in the modern era). They would have been bad episodes in any season but they wouldnt have looked as awful if they had been bookended by say The Satan Pit and Love and Monsters instead of Amys Choice and Vincent and the Doctor. On a basic level I just dont like his writing at all. I'm holding out hope that he decides that Showrunner should be a different job from Chief Writer and so we dont get him writing a lot of episodes, because while I'm sure he has many talents, writing good episodes of doctor who doesnt seem to be one of them.
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The_Doctor posted:Hell his hair changed over the course of an episode, just look at Flatline. It goes from wild outside to close cropped in the siege TARDIS scenes.  He's such a silly man and I will miss him sorely
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SiKboy posted:It credits Chibnall with the arc stuff at the start and finish of the Silurian two-parter, but I thought that those were the only 2 bits that were actually added by Moffat to the episode rather than written by Chibnall (and are, not coincidently, the only two bits you need to watch you can happily skip the rest of it). Of the nu-who episodes he has written, I think "Dinosaurs on a spaceship" is probably the only one I dont outright hate. Its not a great episode, but its mediocre and largely forgettable as opposed to his usual level of boring and terrible. The Silurian two parter isnt "unfairly assessed as the least of a good bunch" so much as bad episodes of television made to look worse by being in the middle of arguably the best season of Doctor Who ever (or at least in the modern era). They would have been bad episodes in any season but they wouldnt have looked as awful if they had been bookended by say The Satan Pit and Love and Monsters instead of Amys Choice and Vincent and the Doctor. On a basic level I just dont like his writing at all. His season one episode of Life on Mars is genuinely terrible. I'm prepared to keep an open mind but that one piece of writing soured me on him.
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Fil5000 posted:His season one episode of Life on Mars is genuinely terrible. I'm prepared to keep an open mind but that one piece of writing soured me on him. Which episode was that? I looked it up but imdbs very brief synopsis isn't ringing any bells at all.
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SiKboy posted:Which episode was that? I looked it up but imdbs very brief synopsis isn't ringing any bells at all. The one where the suspect dies in custody because Ray force feeds him some drugs. It has everyone acting massively out of character just so Chibnall can do something GRIMDARK.
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Has anyone mentioned Chibnall wrote this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwoman
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Spacebump posted:Has anyone mentioned Chibnall wrote this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwoman It's the first thing I think of when I see his name. FINALLY representation in the Cybermen.
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Apr 22, 2017 18:52
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"You don't steer the TARDIS, you negotiate with it." The Doctor's such a terrible negotiator 
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I like the robots. Especially when they do frowny face.
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"How does killing thousands of people make me happy?" "How does killing thousands of people make me happy... smiley face!"
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Apr 22, 2017 19:39
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Doctor Who series 10 (season 36): This is a great day out.
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Jerusalem posted:"You don't steer the TARDIS, you negotiate with it."
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Well that was good too, the ending didn't quite live up to the set-up but I liked it.
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Apr 22, 2017 20:08
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Who was it that predicted a "second episode of Series 10 Big Finish sale"? You were right. Edit: Huzzah! I own them all!
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Apr 22, 2017 20:21
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This is a sci-fi episode of Dwarf Fortress.
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Apr 22, 2017 20:25
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I liked that one. Seems to be a theme of robot interprets job weirdly, gets its murder on so far this series. I'm guessing five minutes after they leave, beardy tries to take over and everyone is killed.
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Spacebump posted:Has anyone mentioned Chibnall wrote this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberwoman Between the first two seasons of Torchwood and the second season of Broadchurch, I have no hope for Chibnall whatsoever.
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How was the third season of Broadchurch? I didn't bother watching it after the second was so bad, but I heard the third was pretty well received?
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Apr 22, 2017 20:42
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I guess Happiness Patrols are a recurring problem in the future!
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Apr 22, 2017 20:53
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jivjov posted:Who was it that predicted a "second episode of Series 10 Big Finish sale"? Robophobia is included there, probably my favourite of the main range audios. Enjoyed Smile, but yeah, ending was lacking slightly but I liked it. "Welcome to your new world, the situation isn't great, deal with it."
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I thought that was better than last weeks episode, and I enjoyed last weeks fine. Was a little distracted at the end trying to work out if the guy with the beard was Ralph Little (it was, for the record) but overall I enjoyed that Who. The emojibots were a little too charming if anything, their frowny faces were adorable and they have comedy pot bellies.
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That was fun. God, I've missed Capaldi. It had everything to do with pods, it had everything to do with people, and it had NOTHING to do with DEEP HURTING.
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Apr 22, 2017 21:48
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Is it me or was the text above the map of the spaceship in the Star Trek font?
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Dabir posted:Can't wait for the big idiot behind Forest to gently caress it all up next week. Burkion posted:Wait they let the Forest of the Night guy write another episode? Nice overreaction you guys, and other idiots. BSam fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 22, 2017 |
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Be fair Forest is uniquely, thoroughly awful and gave the distinct impression that the guy behind it had never written anything in his life and wasn't planning to start now. My statement was reasonable based on the evidence available.
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Day of the doctor and Time of the doctor seem to be on uk netflix but are showing under season 8 for some reason
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Dabir posted:Be fair Forest is uniquely, thoroughly awful and gave the distinct impression that the guy behind it had never written anything in his life and wasn't planning to start now. My statement was reasonable based on the evidence available. Fair enough then.
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Jerusalem posted:Well that was good too, the ending didn't quite live up to the set-up but I liked it. As soon as the emojibot started stressing out over its dead mate and flashing the lightbulb I figured they were recognising what grief is and we were going to get a very sombre ending about reconcilliation, understanding a new species and learning to live with your mistakes. I was all ready to start calling this the best episode of Nu Who. Then the doctor, on discovering a new form of life, immediately erases the memories of an entire species. What the gently caress? That is literally the behaviour of a psychopath. Thats the sort of plot the Master would cook up to install himself as high overlord of earth without anybody complaining. That was an evil thing to do.
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Fun episode - I enjoyed it a lot. Looking forward to next week.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Is it me or was the text above the map of the spaceship in the Star Trek font? Kinda - Swiss Ultra Condensed which (or variant ofs) appears a lot in sci-fi before Eurostile did - when narrow was more chic than wide. The map drawing is strongly influenced by Sternbach's drawings, though, which is fine, because he's awesome. After I left the show they asked me to redraw some of the map for a pickup shot as "Pod Cluster" was reading as "Poo cluster", which wasn't the worst mistake I made that episode, but I'll save that till the end of the series.  Initially pitched - and pushed really hard for - black emoji faces as per my concept below, as I thought yellow would be too on the nose. 
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I have a sneaking suspicion about what the "promise" Nardole was saying the Doctor made was as well.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:As soon as the emojibot started stressing out over its dead mate and flashing the lightbulb I figured they were recognising what grief is and we were going to get a very sombre ending about reconcilliation, understanding a new species and learning to live with your mistakes. I was all ready to start calling this the best episode of Nu Who. This is the direction I thought they were going as well and I was really excited about it. The mindwipe was really lovely but I did like that the Doctor didn't do it to reset the robots to defaults, but to essentially wipe the slate clean and allow the robots to begin their existence again as the indigenous lifeform of the planet rather than custom built servants, and force the colonists to actually negotiate with them as equals. What I find interesting about the mindwipe is that in the previous episode Bill calls out the Doctor on trying to do it to her and he recognizes that it is a lovely thing and chooses not to do it, so in that regard this did feel like a bit of a regression. echoplex posted:Initially pitched - and pushed really hard for - black emoji faces as per my concept below, as I thought yellow would be too on the nose. I do think having them be black would immediately give them a negative context for the viewer, the cheerful yellow is familiar to the audience and makes the moment they turn into killers hit stronger I think. RIP Poo Cluster I
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Strom Cuzewon posted:As soon as the emojibot started stressing out over its dead mate and flashing the lightbulb I figured they were recognising what grief is and we were going to get a very sombre ending about reconcilliation, understanding a new species and learning to live with your mistakes. I was all ready to start calling this the best episode of Nu Who. The ending of this bugged me enough to actually find the thread to comment on it. I feel like after they found the pods the episode just lost the plot completely. It's not just that the doctor mind-wiped them, it's that mind-wiping them somehow makes them the indigenous species and makes the humans the bad guys, somehow, even though half an hour ago the doctor was ready to nuke the place for the same reasons beardy guy is complaining about.
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I liked that episode, but then the ending was kinda weird? Like they didn't know how to end it. Which is kinda bad. And I predict that emoji will survive for centuries to come, because humanity is really that awful.
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spectralent posted:The ending of this bugged me enough to actually find the thread to comment on it. I feel like after they found the pods the episode just lost the plot completely. It's not just that the doctor mind-wiped them, it's that mind-wiping them somehow makes them the indigenous species and makes the humans the bad guys, somehow, even though half an hour ago the doctor was ready to nuke the place for the same reasons beardy guy is complaining about. William Blake had some distinctive views of colonies, slaves, and native Americans. Translating those into a sci if metaphor is not going to make sense on their own terms. Someone will probably provide a full explanation for what the episode meant soon.
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A lot of the architecture and sets really looked like the Milwaukee Art Museum, but I'm guessing they didn't fly all the way out to Wisconsin just to shoot an episode.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:As soon as the emojibot started stressing out over its dead mate and flashing the lightbulb I figured they were recognising what grief is and we were going to get a very sombre ending about reconcilliation, understanding a new species and learning to live with your mistakes. I was all ready to start calling this the best episode of Nu Who. It's like defragging your hard drive or verifying your game files so everything works without crashing in flames The robots are still sentient - their own separate form of life I give it a month before the humans try usurping control and get mulched Good thing there's hundreds of other human ships out there, seeding the stars with their...idiocy
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