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Jedi posted:Off the top of my head, Waldenbooks, B. Dalton, and Borders no longer exist, and neither do quite a few local mom and pop book stores. To pretend that all of them had incompetent management is disingenuous at best. Amazon was a huge contributor to that - and they sell a Kindle. To pretend that digital sales have no impact also isn't fair. The medium is changing. Just like you'll have difficulty finding a local typewriter repairman - there will come a time that physical books are considered a quaint affectation. Waldenbooks was a subsidiary of Borders though so I'd imagine they went down with that ship. edit: Rhyno posted:
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Physical book sales have actually been going up annually the last few years. But that's a bit of a bounce back, of course. Edit: Beaten.
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Guy Goodbody posted:American Comics should adopt the Manga distribution system. Instead of every series getting its own monthly print release, there are monthly magazines each with 5-8 series in them. this would be loving dope but couldn't work because part of the modern market is driven by the collector mentality whereas the manga distribution system works because it puts out its weekly/monthly/whatever mags on the shittiest paper imaginable because they're thought of as disposable, if you're a fan you collect a series in tanks completely antithetical to the american system CapnAndy posted:Those are... really good ideas, though? Pretty drat solid. getting rid of physical singles is goddamn insane
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Apr 23, 2017 03:05
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See, now we know it's a good idea.
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X-O posted:If Rhyno has to sleep on the street or -gasp- get a real job that's just a bullet he'll have to take in order to save the comic industry. Come on Rhyno, bring it down from the inside! Eat a dick with this real job poo poo, retail is a real job even if it's af a local shop
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Apr 23, 2017 03:09
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This was $5 well spent
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Eat a dick with this real job poo poo, retail is a real job even if it's af a local shop It was a joke at Rhyno's expense. Stop being so sensitive BENGHAZI 2.
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X-O posted:It was a joke at Rhyno's expense. Stop being so sensitive BENGHAZI 2. I also work at a a shop homie and "real job" sentiments are too common
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X-O posted:It was a joke at Rhyno's expense. Stop being so sensitive BENGHAZI 2. gently caress even I joke about it. But via my joke job I netted roughly $5000 worth of free poo poo in 2016, much of which I was able to flip for cash so I ain't doing too bad.
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Real jobs are as follows
hedge fund manager senator actor in a movie produced by Disney Everyone else is going to be replaced by a robot, the internet, or an orphan in another country who will be paid 27 cents a day to do twice as much work as you. And that CGI Tarkin was a pretty loving clear shot across the bow to Disney actors. Chris Pratt better have a plan B lined up
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I also work at a a shop homie and "real job" sentiments are too common It was just a nudge at Rhyno dude. Calm down. I would guarantee he knew what I meant. Roth posted:This was $5 well spent What the hell even is that thing? X-O fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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Apr 23, 2017 03:24
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Anyway the spacetwink essay is dumb as a butt Edit you can pick either one they're basically all him screaming about direct market BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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Apr 23, 2017 03:25
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Guy Goodbody posted:Real jobs are as follows Surely he's safe from CGI in Jurassic Park.
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I'm skimming his first essay again and he starts by talking about the comics code without the important context that DC helped write it to eliminate competition it's all just LOOK HOW DUMB THIS WAS Edit he follows this up with"it's an important bit of history" even tho he misses why it's actually important in favor of focusing on the anti drug issues of ASM BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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Jedi posted:Off the top of my head, Waldenbooks, B. Dalton, and Borders no longer exist, and neither do quite a few local mom and pop book stores. To pretend that all of them had incompetent management is disingenuous at best. Amazon was a huge contributor to that - and they sell a Kindle. To pretend that digital sales have no impact also isn't fair. The medium is changing. Just like you'll have difficulty finding a local typewriter repairman - there will come a time that physical books are considered a quaint affectation. Amazon also owns ComiXology so it wants digital comics to sell more than floppies
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X-O posted:What the hell even is that thing? Star Wars Tales is an anthology series where a bunch of writers would write short stories related to Star Wars. Some were canon, some weren't, and the ones that weren't tended to be really off the wall ones. This is from George R. Binks, a story about Jar Jar's father, who is trapped on an island with his son and wife after their fishing boat gets shipwrecked, and has to deal with his son being Jar Jar. Other bizarre stories include: That story about the force sensitive droid that blows itself up so R2 can go with Luke (written by Peter David of all people), parodies of The Breakfast Club, Judge Judy, Pulp Fiction, and Fight Club. A Garth Ennis story about one of the stormtroopers that went on the Tantive IV at the beginning of ANH, and a story where Han and Chewie crash land on Earth, Chewie becomes the inspiration for Bigfoot, and Indiana Jones discovers Han's skeleton. It's all on Marvel Unlimited, and well worth a read. Edit - Here's one of the shortest stories they did.  
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Roth posted:Star Wars Tales is an anthology series where a bunch of writers would write short stories related to Star Wars. Some were canon, some weren't, and the ones that weren't tended to be really off the wall ones. God I want to read that Ennis one
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:God I want to read that Ennis one It's in issue 10. The story is called 'Trooper'
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Wait, is that where that thing about the droid intentionally popping its top so C3PO and R2D2 don't get separated originally comes from? I always thought it was some weird fan theory.
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Ghostlight posted:Wait, is that where that thing about the droid intentionally popping its top so C3PO and R2D2 don't get separated originally comes from? I always thought it was some weird fan theory. It goes further than that. It's called Skippy, the Jedi Droid. It is a force sensitive droid that can levitate rocks, and Obi-Wan frequently felt its presence but never realized they were a droid. It has a vision when it was bought by Owen about how terrible things would be if R2 doesn't get bought by Luke, and blows itself up to save the galaxy in a way. I have no idea how Peter David thought to write this.
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He probably got told he could write about any character in Star Wars and challenged himself to make an interesting story out of the most pointless and asinine character possible.
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Jedi posted:There's far fewer bookstores today than there were 10 years ago. It's going away - it's not quite there yet, and for certain fields, print will be around for awhile. However, my nephews in grade school were given iPads this year and several of their classes don't have physical text books anymore. It's all on the tablet. Yeah my kid does everything on a tablet. Still reads floppies though. Physical media isn't going away anytime soon, especially when the alternative is overpriced digital media.
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Yeah, I'd switch to digital for new comics, but they're all the same price as physical comics, and I get a 20% discount at the comic shop I go to. It's really not a choice for me.
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Guy Goodbody posted:People have been saying that for literally decades now, but it doesn't seem to be true? From the second paragraph of the article you quoted: "Mass market has been on the wane since the introduction of e-books, and its slide continued in 2016 with a 7.7% drop in unit sales. Physical audio, where sales were down 13.5% on the year, also took a big hit from digital." If you check the chart at the bottom, mass market is down 25% since 2013 - digital is hurting them. I read exceptionally quickly and before I had my Kindle, I was buying 3 paperbacks a week to keep me busy on the commute. Now? I can't remember the last physical book I bought. It's like pay phones and typewriters and lots of other stuff we had when I was a kid. Yeah, they're still around, but they're not nearly as common as they once were. It's a slow burn for certain - but pretending it's not affecting the industry is short sighted.
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DC's trying out $4 print w/download code, $3 digital.
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Space Fish posted:DC's trying out $4 print w/download code, $3 digital. [Extremely Rhyno's customers voice] So much for drawing the line at 2.99.....
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Roth posted:Star Wars Tales is an anthology series where a bunch of writers would write short stories related to Star Wars. Some were canon, some weren't, and the ones that weren't tended to be really off the wall ones. Reminds me: Alan Moore also did a few utterly bizarre Star Wars stories that didn't really involve anything about the series, setting, or characters but maybe had a reference or two shoved in there So, uh, Princess Leia is being chased by Stormtroopers on a remote moon somewhere. Got it?     ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ e: source is Classic Star Wars: Devilworlds 2 Mover fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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Oh man, I didn't know Alan Moore wrote Star Wars stories. Is that from the old Marvel Star Wars stuff?
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Jedi posted:From the second paragraph of the article you quoted: "Mass market has been on the wane since the introduction of e-books, and its slide continued in 2016 with a 7.7% drop in unit sales. Physical audio, where sales were down 13.5% on the year, also took a big hit from digital." If you check the chart at the bottom, mass market is down 25% since 2013 - digital is hurting them. I read exceptionally quickly and before I had my Kindle, I was buying 3 paperbacks a week to keep me busy on the commute. Now? I can't remember the last physical book I bought. It's like pay phones and typewriters and lots of other stuff we had when I was a kid. Yeah, they're still around, but they're not nearly as common as they once were. It's a slow burn for certain - but pretending it's not affecting the industry is short sighted. Um, dude, did you only read that part of the paragraph? "Most print formats had an outstanding year, with hardcover up 5.4%, trade paperback up 4%, and board books up 7.4%. Mass market has been on the wane since the introduction of e-books, and its slide continued in 2016 with a 7.7% drop in unit sales. Physical audio, where sales were down 13.5% on the year, also took a big hit from digital." One particular format, mass market paperbacks were down. But the increase in hardcover and larger format paperbacks and children's books was more than the drop in mmpb, so overall print book sales were up. And audio books were down too but no poo poo, listening off a CD doesn't give you any different experience than listening to an MP3.
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There are a handful on Unlimited under Classic Star Wars: Devilworlds. edited the source into my post. They're all pretty short but there's a cool one in there about a junk droid colony forming a gestalt machine god through worship and another about a malevolent space djinn that I dig
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Guy Goodbody posted:Um, dude, did you only read that part of the paragraph? I was working at a (rather large,) family-owned bookstore during the "death of brick and mortar" days. I remember when Borders closed, and when it seemed like all the little streetcorner bookstores seemed to be dying off. I also remember when that stopped happening because the industry re-stabilised like six months later. This was about five years ago. Barnes and Noble's still kicking, the major Canadian retailers (Chapters and McNally Robinson, the latter being my alma mater,) were basically untouched, and tiny little corner bookstores are still everywhere. The Death of the Bookstore is just as much of a myth as the Death of Print was in the early days of ebooks, or the Death of the Hardcover when mass market paperbacks were introduced in the 1940s. Everytime a new "disruptive" product or business model pops up, the same short-sighted chorus heralds the death of the industry, and they've been proven wrong every single time. Just because a new format is introduced, even if it's cheaper/more convenient/made of chocolate/whatever, doesn't mean the prior format loses all of its market share. The new thing finds its niche alongside what already exists, the numbers are shuffled around accordingly, and life goes on. Retail won't die until society as a whole decides they don't much care for physical browsing and not waiting a week and a half to get the product they paid for.
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Reminder that it's been a little over a year since this incident:
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Roth posted:It goes further than that. It's called Skippy, the Jedi Droid. It is a force sensitive droid that can levitate rocks, and Obi-Wan frequently felt its presence but never realized they were a droid. I liked the one Tony Isabella wrote where Han Solo does the "smuggling wheelbarrows" trick with spaceships and the one which reveals how Lando won Cloud City in a card game.
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Lurdiak posted:Reminder that it's been a little over a year since this incident: If Will Eisner's so great than how come Frimme Hersh's rear end isn't out and about to teach us all about getting STEM degrees?
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Lurdiak posted:Reminder that it's been a little over a year since this incident: Fastest I've ever been blocked by somebody on Twitter.
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Lurdiak posted:Reminder that it's been a little over a year since this incident: I almost forgot that Diaz existed, almost. Curse you.
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Lurdiak posted:Reminder that it's been a little over a year since this incident: It's like rayheaiiiiiiin On your wedding day
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Schneider Heim posted:Who is Aaron Diaz and why should we care? He does a dumb webcomic where people with shiny butts wax poetic about cyberpunk.
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