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My biggest concern at this point (besides 8th being totally poo poo in the rules department like AoS) is the sub-factioning of the existing armies. We are seeing it already with Thousand Sons where they get five boxes and it's it's own faction. If Tyranids get split into stupid factions like 'Skymurderers' which is only Harpies, Crones, Winged Tyrants and Gargoyles and you lose faction bonuses if you dare to include any gaunts, I'm going to be pissed.
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Pushes for sub-division and complexity alternate with pushes for consolidation and simplicity so once they've had their fun stretching out poorly-designed armies into 30 factions that can ally with each other they'll all be lumped back together into single codices that will be "low-cost" and will retail for $100
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Xarbala posted:I feel bad for anybody who recently bought into the game within the past few months, especially when potential new players were being actively discouraged from paying attention to the constantly escalating trickle of new edition rumors and to overlook the possibility that a decent chunk of their recent investment was going to take a knock. This is me. What's worse, is I bought into Tau because they were the first army I ever played like 4 years ago. Though, the only book I bought was the codex thus far.  I have no idea if the sky is falling or not, I just thought all of this was par for the course as far as this game goes. New editions making old stuff obsolete, greybeards that have been in for a decade madder than ever every time, things mellowing out, then everyone deals with it then tries to have fun before the next edition.  As far as I can tell, this all sounds really fun and exciting. I'm happy to be in on the ground floor of such a big change, to experience the newness with everyone.  It seems like this game gets updated like an mmo. Sweeping rules changes that alter playstyles, and inevitably make someone mad, new releases, an expensive cash shop, etc. I'm used to stuff like this in games I play. Granted, this is the first time I've sunk hundreds into my "characters" as it were, but it's not like they are going to make an army completely worthless (hyperbole aside). With the 86ing of codexes, it makes me feel like rules changes can be made quicker and in more bite sized chunks which is good, isn't it? I dunno. As a new player, I'm totally pumped for 8th, and it's not GW that's making me think twice about playing, it's the other players that are too jaded and bitter about their army changing, as if it wasn't an inevitability inherent in a game of this scale.
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TKIY posted:My biggest concern at this point (besides 8th being totally poo poo in the rules department like AoS) is the sub-factioning of the existing armies. I don't really see that happening. Thousand Sons is its own army because, well, they are very unique. They have a specific aesthetic that doesn't really fit with regular CSM. Same with Death Guard, and hopefully eventually World Eaters. Plus, you can't forget that the Thousand Sons thing is hardly new. Catachan had its own codex
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Apr 23, 2017 05:00
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The Imperium is already basically treated as one huge faction at this point.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:03
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40k is getting popular at my flgs again. Is there an army out there that gets space magic? Back in the day I wanted to play imperium psychics but there never seemed to be a viable list.
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Gameko posted:40k is getting popular at my flgs again. Is there an army out there that gets space magic? Back in the day I wanted to play imperium psychics but there never seemed to be a viable list. Craftworld Eldar and Thousand Sons are the easiest armies to heavily tune to psychic.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:07
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If you play 30k, Thousand Sons are the best legion and have a ton of casters and psychic robits too.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:10
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It's kind of a pity that for a god that is supposed to be the overlord of magic, the Tzeentch discipline is pretty poo poo
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Kabuki Shipoopi posted:Granted, this is the first time I've sunk hundreds into my "characters" as it were, but it's not like they are going to make an army completely worthless (hyperbole aside). With the 86ing of codexes, it makes me feel like rules changes can be made quicker and in more bite sized chunks which is good, isn't it? That's a fairly optimistic take, though not unfounded considering how well Tau tends to sell which, in turn, encourages GW to keep getting them good stuff. If I'm not mistaken, though, weren't Tyranid players hosed over so hard by their 6th edition codex that they were basically the "trap choice" for years? Though these days I hear that's the Orks' problem. I imagine the more time and money you invest the more it hurts when you get punched in the dick by your army's new rules writer. Heck, wasn't there scuttlebutt that the guy who wrote the 6th edition Tyranid codex an IG player who genuinely disliked Tyranids? That said, I can't imagine anybody's worried about the rules streamlining side of things, which people generally agree is something 40k desperately needs.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:19
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As someone who jumped straight from 3rd to 7th I can tell you the whole faction and formation thing is really loving confusing
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Apr 23, 2017 05:23
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Apr 23, 2017 05:28
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Seriously that's been the major pull of 30k for me and a ton of other people. Rites of War let you do some awesome thematic changes to your army but everyone draws 90% of their army from the same book to fill the same force organisation chart.
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Yeah 30k owns. Every game of EC vs my friend's IF plays out differently, but in ways you would expect from the armies thematically. Forge World character series and their specialist legion models are loving amazing too.
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So the Macromat is pretty loving awesome, even if my photography skills aren't. (Finally got around to adjusting my settings, but it appears that when I press the shutter, I tend to move the camera and throw off the focus. Whoops. I also need to clean my lens) Still, I couldn't help but post these because they came out really loving cool and old school magazine looking.  
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Honestly I am fairly hopeful. Age of Sigmar has improved a lot since it came out. They appear to have learned some lessons from the fiasco of a launch it had. (Plus unlike AoS they are not throwing out the old setting, just advancing the timeline something people have wanted for a while.)
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Apr 23, 2017 07:08
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RagnarokAngel posted:I don't think the faction itself is going anywhere, it sucks that the book was invalidated but I'm taking one for the team to burn these rules to the ground.
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Apr 23, 2017 07:23
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TKIY posted:Hopefully it was two light touches. I enjoyed this post immensely.
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jadebullet posted:Finally got around to adjusting my settings, but it appears that when I press the shutter, I tend to move the camera and throw off the focus. Whoops. I also need to clean my lens Get a cheap tripod and use the camera's timer. That will also allow for longer exposure times to get better depth of field.
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 I know people are losing their minds rn about 8th ed and also these marines but I'd like to point out real quickly that these are clearly snap-fit starter marines, hell, the two in the back are identical. These new plastic Ultramarines are clearly from the new starter kit, which is seems like it's going to be Ultramarines vs. Death Guard, judging from previous leaks + new marketing material Also I'm staking out my position that these rules are going to suck, the bloat of 7th is terrible for sure but 8th is going to be a babby's game for idiots lmao
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From the poses they look like they might be snap together type models rather than a new tac kit.
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serious gaylord posted:I enjoyed this post immensely. Hopefully he kept a nice fine tip on his fingers.
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Apr 23, 2017 08:45
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 It is a good thing that Mortarion has a forked tail, so that you can tell that he is indeed a demon.
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Apr 23, 2017 09:05
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Technically we weren't wrong about anything and furthermore
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JBP posted:From the poses they look like they might be snap together type models rather than a new tac kit. from your post it looks like you might not have fully read the one youre responding to
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AoS'ing 40k would encourage me to play. Or at least play it with my kids. They've found AoS easy to get in to but 40k has proven a bit hard work despite them liking the aesthetic and background much more.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:from your post it looks like you might not have fully read the one youre responding to I didn't respond or quote, it just struck me that two are the same. Is that ok? Sometimes starter box models are the same as regular squads as well. JBP fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Apr 23, 2017 |
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Apr 23, 2017 09:17
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thread's gettin pretty bad even for my standards, hopefully it goes unbound soon
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Truescale marines look terrible and don't fit in with the rest of the range at all. So in other words classic GW
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Apr 23, 2017 10:33
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I don't remember these complaints about the Chaos Space Marines in the Dark Vengeance set, which is strange considering the scale changes between the new starter models and the old multipart kit seem almost exactly the same. Compare a DV CSM to an old one.
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I wonder if the new Death Guard are embiggened as well, to go along with the larger loyalists.
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Everyone in this thread is far too invested in 40K that you can't even enjoy a game update without enough drama to cover 30 seasons of a show.
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ijyt posted:A lot of recent kits (Calth, Prospero, Tau) have multiples of the same piece. The dude he's painting is the exact same model too. They're clearly snap-fit models, you can tell by the pose and everything. But they are indeed huge
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TKIY posted:I look forward to fan projects 'Kings of Space War' and '8th Space Age'. Warpath: Firefight (Which just officially launched yesterday!) and 8th Space Age Coast to Coast
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NTRabbit posted:Warpath: Firefight (Which just officially launched yesterday!) and 8th Space Age Coast to Coast Gates of Antares is a good game and more people should play it. They've just released more plastics, shown more plastic basic troops coming out, and put up another really good starter army.
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poo poo is going basically exactly how everyone wanted, yet the sky is falling, I do not understand.
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Uroboros posted:poo poo is going basically exactly how everyone wanted, yet the sky is falling, I do not understand. people who no longer play the game are lovely that other people continue to enjoy it.
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