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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Jagged Jim posted:

He also doesn't do the "I'm attacking you now!" eye flash that regular enemies do so it can be tricky to do perfect dodges on him.

That's what tends to make Platinum Rivals so difficult. They drop or alter the tells you've been seeing in other foes, so it's not just "they have my moves" but also "they can chain attacks as easily as I can."

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Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Fabulousvillain posted:

Knowing how the Drakengard 3 thread went with this games first teaser being released, Yoko Taro will be in charge of Kingdom Hearts 3 or will move in on Nintendo property for a new Metroid game before the end of this thread.

Konami seems to have realized the pachinko biz isn't all they thought it was cracked up to be, so maybe they'll hire yoko taro for MGS6


Jagged Jim posted:

He also doesn't do the "I'm attacking you now!" eye flash that regular enemies do so it can be tricky to do perfect dodges on him.

tbh I just hit him when he had his autoparry shield up and spammed dodge until i got a perfect dodge off his retaliation



Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Apr 23, 2017

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

SGDQ2017 schedule is out, and the very first game is Nier: Automata, played by Halfcoordinated (who plays with one hand, hence the name).

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

MachuPikacchu posted:

SGDQ2017 schedule is out, and the very first game is Nier: Automata, played by Halfcoordinated (who plays with one hand, hence the name).

weird, I thought they had a 1-year moratorium on games for spoiler reasons

doubly weird given that it's squeenix, who are probably the reason rules like that exist in the first place

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

weird, I thought they had a 1-year moratorium on games for spoiler reasons

doubly weird given that it's squeenix, who are probably the reason rules like that exist in the first place

There's been some flex over the years. I donno about spoiler policy, but various companies became a lot more forgiving about their stuff being streamed as the GDQ thing took off.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Also there's been multiple big spoilers by official SE PR themselves (By the way, don't read anything especially about Nier: A's sales).

Aumanor
Nov 9, 2012

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

Konami seems to have realized the pachinko biz isn't all they thought it was cracked up to be

Oh? Do elaborate. Haven't heard anything about it but it would be immensely satisfying if it turned out to be true.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

weird, I thought they had a 1-year moratorium on games for spoiler reasons

doubly weird given that it's squeenix, who are probably the reason rules like that exist in the first place

To be fair, it's not the full game, I think?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The Dark Id posted:

Also, now I kinda wanna play Lords of Shadow 2 despite everyone telling me to absolutely not do that. I really liked the dumbass first game. You did a God powered shoryuken to literally Satan! It was REAL dumb. I loved it.

You played Dirge of Cerberus. There's no way LoS2 is worse than that.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
Memories of Dust is like, my most favorite track in a game full of badass tracks. Walking out into the desert with that thing playing feels almost Metal Gear-y in a way. Overall, I'm a huge fan of the game's use of fake vocals, real vocals, weird robot vocals etc. where other games would just put some generic ambient music. Really makes the soundtrack feel special. And we haven't even heard some of the other really cool and creepy and ominous ones yet!

Also, uh, I'm getting some youtube suggestions on that video that seem a little spoilery in their titles?

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Aumanor posted:

Oh? Do elaborate. Haven't heard anything about it but it would be immensely satisfying if it turned out to be true.

It came up in the switch thread re: konami patching bomberman--

Kite Pride Worldwide posted:

I heard that basically right after they went full pachinko, some laws were passed that made it significantly less profitable :laugh:

Chronojam posted:

Something like thirty percent less by this point, right?

This is the only recent thing even referencing it I could find, but I also don't speak japanese so I can't do a "proper" search for it vOv

Supremezero posted:

To be fair, it's not the full game, I think?

No idea, I don't follow this stuff until it actually starts airing, since it always seems there's pre-show drama around who's invited or not that is never worth touching with a 10 foot pole

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

Supremezero posted:

To be fair, it's not the full game, I think?

It's not. Ending A only.

And it's a halfcoordinated run so it's gonna be amazing.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

The Dark Id posted:

Nah. The only reason I know what the gently caress half his attacks are doing during attacks is because I was reviewing two takes of the same ten minutes of gameplay for like two hours straight. While you're playing it's mostly pretty much "avoid the big light poo poo coming off the nude dude because that looks like a bad scene."

Also, now I kinda wanna play Lords of Shadow 2 despite everyone telling me to absolutely not do that. I really liked the dumbass first game. You did a God powered shoryuken to literally Satan! It was REAL dumb. I loved it.

I mean, like you say, Lords of Shadow seems pretty Your Thing. Incredibly flawed, incredibly stupid, but also a lot of really good parts (art, scenarios crossing the boundary between stupid and awesome, Patrick Stewart consuming all scenery on earth). What does that describe if not a TDI game.

Man I loved Lords of Shadow. That dumbass game :allears:

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


I very much dislike Lords of Shadow but I don't like God of War either so I guess that's just to be expected.

Most of my favorite music in the game hasn't come up yet, but I do really like Rays of Light.

Augus fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 23, 2017

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


My favourite track is imminent in the LP.
I hope everyone enjoys the ever loving crap out of it

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

This is the only recent thing even referencing it I could find, but I also don't speak japanese so I can't do a "proper" search for it vOv

This is the best I could find from lazily googling about it; it mentions new regulation that gradually introduced changes starting in October 2015 and incrementally restricting functionality further up to and including April 2016. By the sound of it, they're 1) Restricting the chance of ooatari (jackpot) to at least 1/400 and then later to 1/320 minimum, 2) requiring a minimum base 30% ball payout rate, starting from April 2016, and 3) Restricting the chance of kakuhen (it's this kind of serial jackpot feature in many pachinko games) to at most 65% starting May 2016.

There might have been some new legislation after that, I'm not sure...

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

This is the best I could find from lazily googling about it; it mentions new regulation that gradually introduced changes starting in October 2015 and incrementally restricting functionality further up to and including April 2016. By the sound of it, they're 1) Restricting the chance of ooatari (jackpot) to at least 1/400 and then later to 1/320 minimum, 2) requiring a minimum base 30% ball payout rate, starting from April 2016, and 3) Restricting the chance of kakuhen (it's this kind of serial jackpot feature in many pachinko games) to at most 65% starting May 2016.

There might have been some new legislation after that, I'm not sure...

So Konami screws over it's game creators, fucks off to pachinko.

And then the government screws over pachinko, and tells Konami to gently caress off.

Seems reasonable to me!

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
There's also the fact that pachinko is kind of dying game and has lost over 60% of its players over the last 20 years. Another nail in the coffin is that Japan voted to legalize casinos in December last year, so when all that is sorted out and casinos become legal (maybe later this year, maybe 2018), pseudo-legal pachinko parlors are suddenly going to face a lot more competition from a more legitimate option.

e: Also I'm not sure whether this is actually government legislation or something else, given that pachinko is not-exactly-legal in the first place.

Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Apr 23, 2017

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Begemot posted:

Some of his attacks are easier to parse, like when you're close and he just tries to punt you like a football.

Charlie-Brown bot.

But yeah, that entire wind up to the kick is hilarious and "oh poo poo" at once because you have no idea what the timing is on it. I don't think I've ever been hit by it because of that.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

There's also the fact that pachinko is kind of dying game and has lost over 60% of its players over the last 20 years. Another nail in the coffin is that Japan voted to legalize casinos in December last year, so when all that is sorted out and casinos become legal (maybe later this year, maybe 2018), pseudo-legal pachinko parlors are suddenly going to face a lot more competition from a more legitimate option.

e: Also I'm not sure whether this is actually government legislation or something else, given that pachinko is not-exactly-legal in the first place.

So they're allowing real cash-outs in the actual casinos instead of the weird grey market pachinko thing of useless tchochkes as prizes that you pawn next door?

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
That's what it sounds like. Gambling is illegal in Japan, with a few exceptions like horse races; pachinko is not one of those exceptions, instead being this shady as gently caress grey market, as you say. Frequently run by the yakuza. Anyway, the new law legalizes resort casinos, i.e. casinos integrated with hotels and whatnot. It's extremely unclear what this means for pachinko, other than competition. Funny enough, a plurality of Japanese citizens (44%) are still opposed to legalized gambling, so who knows where this is heading.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

That's what it sounds like. Gambling is illegal in Japan, with a few exceptions like horse races; pachinko is not one of those exceptions, instead being this shady as gently caress grey market, as you say. Frequently run by the yakuza. Anyway, the new law legalizes resort casinos, i.e. casinos integrated with hotels and whatnot. It's extremely unclear what this means for pachinko, other than competition. Funny enough, a plurality of Japanese citizens (44%) are still opposed to legalized gambling, so who knows where this is heading.

I wonder how much of that 44% plays pachinko/is invested in pachinko...

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

That's what it sounds like. Gambling is illegal in Japan, with a few exceptions like horse races; pachinko is not one of those exceptions, instead being this shady as gently caress grey market, as you say. Frequently run by the yakuza. Anyway, the new law legalizes resort casinos, i.e. casinos integrated with hotels and whatnot. It's extremely unclear what this means for pachinko, other than competition. Funny enough, a plurality of Japanese citizens (44%) are still opposed to legalized gambling, so who knows where this is heading.

Good news, Konami also makes slot machines as well.

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Doesn't Konami own a bunch of gyms too?

Arkanumzilong
Sep 10, 2016

WrightOfWay posted:

Doesn't Konami own a bunch of gyms too?

I did hear 'bad' employees where sent to the gym hell zone where they literally worked as janitors and poo poo

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
realtalk: Konami never left games, and in fact actually branched out a lot during that "dead period", but it's in genres and spaces very few people besides me gave a poo poo about (arcades, taking a few smaller properties worldwide, clearly doing some Switch development behind the scenes).

Ain't gonna defend the management practices, though. That's heinous.

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...



Yes, those are tiny mechanical horses, and yes their tiny legs run. I didn't get any video, unfortunately. This is in a large arcade in Umeda, but I don't remember which one.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
Fun fact, one of the very first games ever released by Nintendo was a horse racing simulator!

MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 23, 2017

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Huh, so that's why horse racing is so popular in Japan.

Well, it gave us Pocket Card Jockey so it's hard to complain.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

Josuke Higashikata posted:

My favourite track is imminent in the LP.
I hope everyone enjoys the ever loving crap out of it

Man, some deaf dudes speaking up in here just made me all depressed how big you really miss out in this game without the music and, to a smaller extent, the overall excellent sound design. Like, the next ("combat") area is really well designed and cool, but the dynamic music throughout the place really pushes it into the fantastic realm.

I take small solace in the fact that it doesn't hurt you personally that much if you don't know what you're missing :v:

GOI
Aug 26, 2015

The Dark Id posted:

Also, now I kinda wanna play Lords of Shadow 2 despite everyone telling me to absolutely not do that. I really liked the dumbass first game. You did a God powered shoryuken to literally Satan! It was REAL dumb. I loved it.

It's really is a game for you and since you liked the first one you should really like this one

KamikazePotato
Jun 28, 2010
Lords of Shadow 2 would be a nice back-to-basics palette cleanser after Nier Automata. Watching TDI play a game that is legitimately great on all fronts is weirding me out.

Alavaria
Apr 3, 2009

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

That's what it sounds like. Gambling is illegal in Japan, with a few exceptions like horse races; pachinko is not one of those exceptions, instead being this shady as gently caress grey market, as you say. Frequently run by the yakuza. Anyway, the new law legalizes resort casinos, i.e. casinos integrated with hotels and whatnot. It's extremely unclear what this means for pachinko, other than competition. Funny enough, a plurality of Japanese citizens (44%) are still opposed to legalized gambling, so who knows where this is heading.
Do the pachinko people pay taxes?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
I'm starting to think that 9S is more of a hindrance than help. He's demanding all these unnecessary fights and ignoring the whole "investigation" angle of this mission.

Parts Kit
Jun 9, 2006

durr
i have a hole in my head
durr

Geostomp posted:

I'm starting to think that 9S is more of a hindrance than help. He's demanding all these unnecessary fights and ignoring the whole "investigation" angle of this mission.
On that point, what happens if you have his AI set so he won't start the fight with Adam?

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Geostomp posted:

I'm starting to think that 9S is more of a hindrance than help. He's demanding all these unnecessary fights and ignoring the whole "investigation" angle of this mission.

He's investigating! INVESTIGATING WITH HIS SWORD! :black101: 9S is kind of stupid

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

Malachite_Dragon posted:

He's investigating! INVESTIGATING WITH HIS SWORD! :black101: 9S is kind of stupid
That's harsh. I mean, he IS the model type designated for all intel related things, and top of the line

The Dark Id posted:

Oh, don’t worry. We 9S models are the best around, you know. Though I suppose we’re not exactly known for our modesty.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Parts Kit posted:

On that point, what happens if you have his AI set so he won't start the fight with Adam?

Everyone stands around. I let it sit for 15 minutes before saying "gently caress it", so unless I was Trolled By Cavia out of an ending where you leave entirely instead of hanging around, it's pretty much a But Thou Must kind of deal.

Malachite_Dragon posted:

He's investigating! INVESTIGATING WITH HIS SWORD! :black101: 9S is kind of stupid

Manual probing

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

Everyone stands around. I let it sit for 15 minutes before saying "gently caress it", so unless I was Trolled By Cavia out of an ending where you leave entirely instead of hanging around, it's pretty much a But Thou Must kind of deal.
It is a But Thou Must kind of deal; the rock covering the new exit doesn't fall away until you stab him 'til the copy comes out and starts screaming the place down.

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Ravus Ursus
Mar 30, 2017

exploded mummy posted:

Good news, Konami also makes slot machines as well.

They sure do.

I work in a casino in the USA and seeing Konami's logo on a bunch of these machines really confused me when I started. They do a bunch of licensed machines, like Dungeons and Dragons, but they have an entire listing of generic slot machines with nothing more than symbols on it.

The licensed ones are enormous, like 10 feet tall, and popular as gently caress.

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