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How, i.e. through what channel, were losses "admitted" historically? Like when the game says a loss was admitted does that mean that someone put out a press release?
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# ? Apr 23, 2017 18:03 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 07:38 |
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Pretty much. There were loss reports in the papers.
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# ? Apr 23, 2017 18:08 |
23 April 1943 Japanese patrol boat No. 39 (former destroyer Tade), torpedoed by US submarine Seawolf east of Taiwan.
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# ? Apr 23, 2017 18:08 |
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It's kind of hard to keep losses secret unless you, I don't know, keep the ship's survivors locked away without letting them talk to their family and friends.
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# ? Apr 23, 2017 21:33 |
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sullat posted:It's kind of hard to keep losses secret unless you, I don't know, keep the ship's survivors locked away without letting them talk to their family and friends. Didn't they basically do exactly that with ships they wanted the loss of kept quiet? Sending survivors to random places in the middle of the Pacific?
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# ? Apr 23, 2017 22:13 |
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 00:17 |
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McNally posted:Didn't they basically do exactly that with ships they wanted the loss of kept quiet? Sending survivors to random places in the middle of the Pacific? I know that the Japanese specifically tried to do this with the Midway survivors, so that word about losing four fleet carriers wouldn't get out.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 00:26 |
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I have a game related question. When there are damaged enemy bombers do any of them not make it back to base but crash within the fog of war? or is what you see what you get? So for example is five damaged liberators really four damaged and one that had to ditch in the Pacific, or does the game not work that way. It seems weird to me for the game to under sell the number of downed enemy given that in the real war the claimed air to air victories always seem to be about double what was actually shot down. Given who we're playing as I would think that the game would claim twenty bombers shot down for every ten sent over by the enemy.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 15:32 |
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Dangeresque posted:I have a game related question. When there are damaged enemy bombers do any of them not make it back to base but crash within the fog of war? or is what you see what you get? I think they can crash on the way home and the game records them as operational losses. This is commonly seen when a carrier goes down and its airgroup has to ditch.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 15:35 |
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Dangeresque posted:I have a game related question. When there are damaged enemy bombers do any of them not make it back to base but crash within the fog of war? or is what you see what you get? Yes, there is always the chance of an ops loss when a plane tries to land, and that chance goes up significantly if the plane is damaged.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 15:36 |
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A lone destroyer out of nowhere does what carriers have been unable to do – it gets a hit on one of my carriers! We bring down a fighter today. Then a bomber! Well, Lets have a look at our wounded hero. Hmm, not bad, but the whole task force is getting due a refit. In fact, I decide to send the Kiddo Butai back for refit now, and the main force will go off when they return. That way I always have carriers in the region. Plus its quiet now. Confirming an Oiler is nice.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 17:39 |
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Were all the screens just asleep or something? The Sims strolls up, tags a fleet carrier, and then saunters off as though nothing had happened? Geez.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 17:45 |
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My guess is the captain used his massive balls to deflect all incomming shells
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 18:36 |
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udgaards posted:My guess is the captain used his massive balls to deflect all incomming shells In this timeline John Wayne plays nothing but destroyer captains, children play "Destroyer Captain" at recess and Japanese Destroyer Captain is just a 400 page rant about how there were heroic destroyer captains in the IJN, too, goddammit, it wasn't just Yamato.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 19:04 |
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How.... how? What.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 19:26 |
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Did Kurita die on his destroyer or not? if so RIP Draconis Combine.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 19:30 |
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Japanese damage control is going to turn that 6 damage to 99 in a day
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 19:36 |
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Fitting to see the Sims on the same day the Neosho was confirmed sunk. Obviously the destroyer was overcome with grief and attempted to take it out on the entire Kido Butai
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 19:41 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Japanese damage control is going to turn that 6 damage to 99 in a day 'Quick stomp that fire out with this half full fuel tank!'.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 20:20 |
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Grey set his destroyers at the wrong sea level
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 20:48 |
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whitewhale posted:'Quick stomp that fire out with this half full fuel tank!'. The way to stop this fire from spreading is to build a firebreak out of Long Lances
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 21:52 |
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Claiming the Sims as my lucky ship.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 22:29 |
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dylguy90 posted:Claiming the Sims as my lucky ship. Done
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 22:53 |
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RA Rx posted:How.... how? And not only did he manage to sock a CV in the nose, he apparently slipped right back out again. Perhaps the Americans have developed a new submersible destroyer.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 23:07 |
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All destroyers are submersible once
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 23:24 |
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Flavius Belisarius posted:Grey set his destroyers at the wrong sea level I don't believe this is possible but drat if it doesn't sounds like something this game would have.
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# ? Apr 24, 2017 23:50 |
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RA Rx posted:How.... how? CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Apr 25, 2017 |
# ? Apr 25, 2017 01:21 |
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How does refitting work in general? will you get upgrades on your carriers and ships or doe sit just mean general rehaul and fixing of most minor operational damage?
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# ? Apr 25, 2017 06:59 |
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wedgekree posted:How does refitting work in general? will you get upgrades on your carriers and ships or doe sit just mean general rehaul and fixing of most minor operational damage? The game tells you when a refit is due. You're supposed to send the ship into a port with the appropriate facilities and let it "repair" into the refit. If you don't, then the ship never improves.
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# ? Apr 25, 2017 07:08 |
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The good news is that you can toggle whether or not you want a ship to refit. The bad news is it's really easy to miss when one of your capital ships is due for refit when you're just patching up some minor damage which can really botch any otherwise well-laid plans you might have made. Refit times vary from a week or two all the way up to a several months in the case of one or two of the British carriers. That refit's kinda worth it because it boosts its aircraft capacity from 30ish to 55ish. But it's also kinda not, because you have to withdraw it from the theater only a month or two after it completes that long-rear end refit.
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# ? Apr 25, 2017 08:27 |
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CannonFodder posted:You know the naval doctrine of "Crossing the T" well the Captain of the Sims decided to "dot the i" and it somehow worked. Which is a crazy bold miracle in and of itself... but there were also hundreds of planes in the area! It didn't look like a storm. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Apr 26, 2017 |
# ? Apr 25, 2017 14:02 |
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They deployed so much smoke it was impossible to see anything for 20 miles.
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# ? Apr 25, 2017 21:58 |
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I wish this was regular enough for me to lay a trap... A kill is a kill. I'm still not sure if this is a good trade or not. Another day. The I-23 goes down.
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 04:28 |
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Aww.
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 05:40 |
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That's not our plucky battleship-wrecking I-21, that's some other random sub that happened to be wandering about.
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 06:27 |
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Grey Hunter posted:
This is basically what my grandfather did from 1943-45 (flying Beaufighters in Burma, that is) They flew out of SE Bangladesh on long-range interdiction missions and shot up every paddle steamer, barge, train, oil pipeline and truck between Mandalay and Rangoon, to staunch the flow of materiel to the front lines. Once they got up and over the Arakan mountains they had the whole Irawaddy Valley laid out ahead of them, so they'd drop altitude and go in low and fast. Enemy aircraft were apparently rarely an issue as a.) there were relatively enemy few fighters in the theatre, b.) the Japanese had almost no warning before a strike and c.) flat-out the Beaufighters could outrun or keep pace with the Ki-27s and 43s that were around. Flak was much more of a problem, as was regaining altitude to make it over the mountains on the way home if you sustained any engine damage. On a related note, if you ever go to the Australian National Aviation Museum in Moorabbin near Melbourne, they have a Beaufighter on display in good shape. If you ask very nicely they'll let you sit in it!
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 06:41 |
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That's really cool. My old landlord lost a leg over Europe in some kind of big bomber. Those things look so rickety from the inside, but I suppose that's mostly just because it's not superficially smoothed over with plastic molding.
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 06:54 |
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I-23 was sunk by a bomb?
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 13:46 |
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RA Rx posted:I-23 was sunk by a bomb? PBYs, the unsung heroes of all wars?
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# ? Apr 26, 2017 14:15 |
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RA Rx posted:I-23 was sunk by a bomb? Catalinas were huge jerks like that.
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