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Bobbi Morse is having a really weird night.
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Did she just throw that club through his neck?
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Apr 23, 2017 06:27
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She was aiming for the heart and missed.
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Apr 23, 2017 06:32
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Codependent Poster posted:Did she just throw that club through his neck? Yeah she nailed the guy to the the door with a pipe through the neck. Pretty great huh? That Wonder Woman pilot is one of my favorite things ever. Never have you seen such a series of not just bad decisions, but the worst possible decisions, made in one 42 minute span. From pipes through the neck to triple identities to chilling at home with her cat and creating a Facebook account while eating ice cream and watching The Notebook, it's a complete misfire on a level rarely seen.
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Apr 23, 2017 06:42
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X-O posted:I think it's obvious what should be done to Wonder Woman's history in the books. Forget this Odyssey of the Amazons mess. Forget Rucka's Lies storyline. Hell even forget Legend of Wonder Woman. We need to take the David E. Kelly approach.
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Apr 23, 2017 18:04
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X-O posted:Yeah she nailed the guy to the the door with a pipe through the neck. Pretty great huh? That Wonder Woman pilot is one of my favorite things ever. Never have you seen such a series of not just bad decisions, but the worst possible decisions, made in one 42 minute span. From pipes through the neck to triple identities to chilling at home with her cat and creating a Facebook account while eating ice cream and watching The Notebook, it's a complete misfire on a level rarely seen. I like how with Batman the joke is always about how different movies had a great Bruce Wayne but a terrible Batman or vise-versa, but in this we had a show about weird neck stabbing Wonder Woman and a Diana that was basically just fuckin Cathy. You're supposed to get at least one right!
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Apr 23, 2017 18:07
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X-O posted:Yeah she nailed the guy to the the door with a pipe through the neck. Pretty great huh? That Wonder Woman pilot is one of my favorite things ever. Never have you seen such a series of not just bad decisions, but the worst possible decisions, made in one 42 minute span. From pipes through the neck to triple identities to chilling at home with her cat and creating a Facebook account while eating ice cream and watching The Notebook, it's a complete misfire on a level rarely seen. I haven't watched it yet, but my understanding is that it was basically a mash-up of Batman, the Lynda Carter WW, and Ally McBeal that took next to nothing from any actual comic featuring the character.
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Apr 23, 2017 21:42
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Barry Convex posted:I haven't watched it yet, but my understanding is that it was basically a mash-up of Batman, the Lynda Carter WW, and Ally McBeal that took next to nothing from any actual comic featuring the character. There's a great (terrible) scene where Cary Elwes, who is like her main underling that runs her huge company based on the Wonder Woman IP, and her argue about the large breast size of the company's Wonder Woman dolls. It ends with her saying something along the lines of "The Gods surely blessed us Amazons, bit not that much!" and you can almost feel the pause for a laugh from the audience like it was a bad sitcom or something.
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Apr 23, 2017 21:48
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So does everyone know the CEO of Wonder Woman Inc. is also Wonder Woman, or just her key people?
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Apr 23, 2017 21:52
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Aphrodite posted:So does everyone know the CEO of Wonder Woman Inc. is also Wonder Woman, or just her key people? Everyone, including the public. She's Wonder Woman and Diana Themyscira the CEO. But she has a third identity, Diana Prince the lonely girl in glasses and a ponytail that sits at home watching The Notebook with her cat. And dammit, she's finally going to make that Facebook account! They really got the character!
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Apr 23, 2017 22:00
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X-O posted:Everyone, including the public. She's Wonder Woman and Diana Themyscira the CEO. But she has a third identity, Diana Prince the lonely girl in glasses and a ponytail that sits at home watching The Notebook with her cat. And dammit, she's finally going to make that Facebook account! That's god damned insane.
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Apr 23, 2017 22:02
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Skwirl posted:That's god damned insane. Here's the boardroom scene I mentioned above. I got the blessing quote wrong, but the spirit is the same. I somehow forgot the most ridiculous part of the scene. I never said to merchandise my tits! https://streamable.com/3yv73
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Apr 23, 2017 22:06
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This looks like a parody
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Apr 23, 2017 22:21
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Roth posted:This looks like a parody The outfit looking more like it's from a porn parody than the actual porn parody one is my favorite bit.
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Apr 23, 2017 22:27
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Next Action Comics shows Clark's (and now everyone else's) revised history as detailed here https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/23/killing-5-year-timeline-superman-flash-blue-beetle-spoilers-week-ahead-rumbling-around-c2e2/ If contradiction across comics bothers you, I'm guessing things are about to get really bothersome.
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Apr 23, 2017 22:35
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Teenage Fansub posted:Next Action Comics shows Clark's (and now everyone else's) revised history as detailed here https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/23/killing-5-year-timeline-superman-flash-blue-beetle-spoilers-week-ahead-rumbling-around-c2e2/ "Clark not only has his old history, but he also adopted the New 52 look shortly after his electric blue suit from the 90s story, which he seems to have worn until recently" ... really guys?
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Apr 23, 2017 22:45
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Teenage Fansub posted:Next Action Comics shows Clark's (and now everyone else's) revised history as detailed here https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/23/killing-5-year-timeline-superman-flash-blue-beetle-spoilers-week-ahead-rumbling-around-c2e2/ Yayyyyyyy! How exciting!
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Apr 23, 2017 22:56
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Teenage Fansub posted:Next Action Comics shows Clark's (and now everyone else's) revised history as detailed here https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/23/killing-5-year-timeline-superman-flash-blue-beetle-spoilers-week-ahead-rumbling-around-c2e2/ This is good.
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Apr 23, 2017 23:01
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The Justice League are first clued in to suddenly being ten years older when Aquaman comes back from taking a leak swearing that he didn't have any gray pubes yesterday. Call me, DC.
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Apr 23, 2017 23:18
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Teenage Fansub posted:Next Action Comics shows Clark's (and now everyone else's) revised history as detailed here https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/04/23/killing-5-year-timeline-superman-flash-blue-beetle-spoilers-week-ahead-rumbling-around-c2e2/ Well this sounds like a clusterfuck. Are they just going to pick and choose which parts of those 10 years are back? Because Barry was loving dead for most of the stuff they're referencing. Plastic Man, you know, existed. Not to mention New God involvement and boy what a mess.
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Apr 24, 2017 00:44
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Well, they don't really need to get too specific before Doc Manhattan goes "Hey you redid everything. gently caress you!" And starts shooting blue testicle beams at everyone. Then we get New New Old Earth out of it next year.
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Apr 24, 2017 01:21
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quote:"As for Wonder Woman and Jonathan Carroll, their respective beaus during the New 52?  That being said... quote:There is the sense that the two Supermans had their lives righted after uniting. The “wrong” history like Convergence or the Diana relationship are gone. They both returned to the other what was missing. I mean, it did for them. The rest of Convergence was balls. 
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Apr 24, 2017 01:50
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I said it before, this whole thing is just creating way more questions than it should be. They should have just left it alone. That being said it's done so go ahead and try to salvage what you can of it and anything you can write off about N52 Superman is a good thing. All those earlier issues about Superman having to build up trust again with the Justice League seem really pointless now in hindsight since he's apparently been with them all along now.
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Apr 24, 2017 01:53
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BrianWilly posted:Hurhurhurhurhur There were some other decent tie-ins.
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Apr 24, 2017 01:53
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They should have left it alone cause Zero Year is a dope origin story and No Man's Land will never fit in again, but now that we're here... We need the return of Dick and Damian as Batman and Robin 
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Apr 24, 2017 02:00
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The odd thing is that people were largely on board with the state of the world for Rebirth. Even with the whole Convergency Superman deal, it's usually the best selling comic that isn't named Batman. There's absolutely no need to tinker till whatever happens with the big upcoming thing. I'm not too bothered since I'm confident Superman won't stop being a great comic, but it was definitely pointless.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:03
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Teenage Fansub posted:The odd thing is that people were largely on board with the state of the world for Rebirth. Even with the whole Convergency Superman deal, it's usually the best selling comic that isn't named Batman. Despite JL being awful and Flash being mediocre they've both been outselling Superman. Though I guess you might count JL as "Batman."
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Apr 24, 2017 02:06
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I don't read Green Lantern books at all, so I'm probably wrong here, but I thought one of the things retconned out was the whole thing with Coast City being destroyed and Hal going crazy and destroying the Corps and becoming a villain. If not I guess I'm wondering how does that all fit in?
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Apr 24, 2017 02:11
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Based on BC's retailer poll Superman beat Justice League and Secret Empire last week 
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Apr 24, 2017 02:18
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X-O posted:I don't read Green Lantern books at all, so I'm probably wrong here, but I thought one of the things retconned out was the whole thing with Coast City being destroyed and Hal going crazy and destroying the Corps and becoming a villain. If not I guess I'm wondering how does that all fit in? Like, in Rebirth or N52? Because in N52 he met the alternative Parallax and was referenced his own fall from grace.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:26
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X-O posted:I don't read Green Lantern books at all, so I'm probably wrong here, but I thought one of the things retconned out was the whole thing with Coast City being destroyed and Hal going crazy and destroying the Corps and becoming a villain. If not I guess I'm wondering how does that all fit in? I think so. IIRC they've shown flashbacks of rookie Kyle being a normal ol GL instead of "The Last Lantern" thing that defined him. But then they still kind of built on all the pre-flashpoint GL Rebirth, SCW, Blackest Night stuff going into the new 52 so who knows anymore. GL hasn't made sense since Flashpoint. Teenage Fansub posted:Based on BC's retailer poll Superman beat Justice League and Secret Empire last week I usually just use Comichron. From what I can tell Flash has been the best selling solo DC hero aside from Batman since the relaunch. Probably fans of the show jumping in and maybe petering off as they lose interest.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:27
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Rhyno posted:Like, in Rebirth or N52? Because in N52 he met the alternative Parallax and was referenced his own fall from grace. You tell me! That's what I was asking. I just remember seeing someone say they got rid of it because they didn't want Hal to be viewed as a villain. I don't read Green Lantern so when that article mentioned showing the destruction of Coast City and Hal going crazy I was under the impression that was something they're bringing back that was retconned out. If it's not that's all well and good. I'd just been under the impression that never happened in the current continuity.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:34
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Honestly it was kind of vague. Johns was in the home stretch of his GL run so he ignored the N52 reboot.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:49
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Rhyno posted:Honestly it was kind of vague. Well if that doesn't sum everything up I don't know what does.
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Apr 24, 2017 02:55
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Kyle is back to having been the last GL at one point.
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Apr 24, 2017 03:25
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Doomsday may or may not have killed Superman which may or may not have caused Cyborg Superman to come and blow up Coast City which may or may not have made Hal Jordan go crazy and murder all the Green Lantern corps which may or may not have been destroyed which may or may not have left Kyle as the last Green Lantern while Hal may or may not have been the Specter after blowing himself up to reignite the sun.
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Apr 24, 2017 03:42
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I just need to know if Zero Hour happened or not. This fold out timeline can carry through if it did.
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Apr 24, 2017 03:48
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The entire Parallax to GL:Rebirth period is so loving sketchy and confusing that it's best to just close your eyes and go "Lalalalala" Mostly because the N52 couldn't even settle on what the hell happened during that time. During the first 12 issues of New Guardians, Kyle is shown to have his original origin. Ganthet gives him the ring, actually stays behind for like a second to teach him how it works, and Oa was destroyed. Then from Issue 13 onwards, Oa is shown to be perfectly fine with Lanterns everywhere and Ganthet is taking Kyle to be trained by Kilowog. Despite THAT during that same period, Kyle is referenced as being the "Torchbearer" as someone who carried the light when no one else could. That doesn't line up with his then presented origin, but does line up with the previously presented origin. And then lets not get into things like the Darkstars, R.E.B.E.L.S., The Controllers, Kyles relationships with Donna and Jade which was pretty important, all of the JL stuff that happened during that time... The only things we know for certain are. 1. Kyle is the Torchbearer for some period of time.
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Apr 24, 2017 03:59
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Again, I'm a complete GL know-nothing, but if Johns was writing all this stuff and it's like his favorite characters then why didn't he try to establish something concrete? It sounds like it was left a mess on purpose just from what you're all saying here.
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It just sounds like more proof to me that New 52 should have been an actual reset to the beginning, and not doing this half-assed thing where some things happened or didn't, and all in 5-10 years, but nobody can tell what actually happened.
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