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Ajaxify posted:I do not care what we buy as long as we get that AC-130 and I can be in it, callsign God. Ever since I was a teenager I've sexually identified as an AC-130, and this is my chance to finally be free. Free to take off, fly in circles slowly, and absolutely gently caress up anyone's day on the ground. I already fly the C-130 so therefore I'm flying it.  I will try and see that you get Fire Control Officer or one of the gunner positions.OOC: Yooper, if we do get an AC-130, how will you determine the 13 crewmembers? Dreamsicle fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Dreamsicle posted:OOC: Yooper, if we do get an AC-130, how will you determine the 13 crewmembers? I'll go down the list and the next 13 will go into the bird unless they have a called position elsewhere, ie, holding out for an SR-71 or U-2, or Cessna.
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I don't suppose we could have our ground guys steal the diamonds?
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Maybe we should have the ground guys try to find and kill the SA-20 battery?
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:I don't suppose we could have our ground guys steal the diamonds? They are currently recovering from their Thunderdome. On second thought, the 13 people who want to be in the AC-130 must do a Thunderdome.  Some new intel. I have no idea what these guys are talking about. But it's interesting to see some GW stuff on sale.
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The Sandman posted:Maybe we should have the ground guys try to find and kill the SA-20 battery? I hope they can interrupt their Thunderdome to do it. Yooper posted:They are currently recovering from their Thunderdome. On second thought, the 13 people who want to be in the AC-130 must do a Thunderdome. But I fly the normal C-130 already :  :
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Please please please put me on the list for AC130 Thunderdome. 
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Dreamsicle posted:I hope they can interrupt their Thunderdome to do it. When it finishes college it'll grow up, get a nice job, and spend the weekends as an AC-130 with the Hells Angels. I can totally do a CMANO Thunderdome. Everyone picks a non-stealth airplane, a loadout, and I put them all around Mt. Everest and watch them to go town and destroy each other. It'll be beautiful. Once this deployment is done! Yooper fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Ladies, gentlemen, and those who eschew those labels, it looks like the Free State is making purchases from the IAF. Expect Neshers, Kfirs, Kurnasses, or even F-15Is.
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Kfirs would be a pretty solid bet; wiki says a bunch of pre-owned ones are for sale, and its had some export success.
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Also I'd bet some of these drones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Heron
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I'll sign up if we need more bodies. Callsign Nesoberi. No preference for plane.
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emormu posted:I'll sign up if we need more bodies. Callsign Nesoberi. No preference for plane. Goon Pilot #100, right there. We're a proper third world air force now.
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drat, just missed it. If the list goes to 101, put me down, any aircraft, call sign Burning.
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I am withdrawing my name from AC 130 contention. I have decided to remain in my Phantom despite it's undergunnededness. This is an act of generosity toward the influx of pilots needing flight spots and is in no way an act of cowardice to avoid horrific Thunderdome related injuries.  But seriously you can die in the Thunderdome if you get hit in the neck with a rock or club or something. Edit: Oh, it's a CMANO Thunderdome fought in the air over high elevation mountainous terrain. That actually sounds more dangerous. Edit Edit: BernDuder is having a rough time in the free state. Two cases of dysentery and a chimpanzee bite. Cathode Raymond fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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I think any deaths in the CMANO Thunderdome won't be actual deaths. Which really isn't a Thunderdome at all, then. We ground pounders like REAL risk with our crazy ideas Speaking of Thunderdomes, post them faster Phi 
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Yooper posted:They are currently recovering from their Thunderdome. On second thought, the 13 people who want to be in the AC-130 must do a Thunderdome. I just want to say that Jack's posts are always great, and I enjoy them. I also enjoy that he's pissed off so many people he has to hide in the Free State.
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Inspired by Tourist's commentary like 50 pages ago. I don't get to do creative writing very often so what the hell. Some slight liberties taken with timings. Consider this a form of atonement for me submitting a plan that's likely to get a whole bunch of you killed. Excerpt from video recording of interview with Applicant #1037 for Hayard-Gunnes for position of Combat Aviator. Interview performed at HG field office in Lubango, Angola; two HG staff participating. Transcription performed by administrative staff for historical records at the end of HG's Angolan campaign. quote:HG1: Tell us about your background. Pilot's log, MEAT, entry #4 quote:I've been here for a little while now. We just had the first combat op I've participated in. It was... not what I expected. Certainly not as glamorous as the guys flying the Gripens. No, my job is to fly in a circle a slight bit off the ground and call targets out to our Phantoms and the other guys with bombs and Mavericks and what not. Somebody's gotta do it, though. If nobody had done that, we would have lost a lot of people and hardware to some rocket artillery vehicles that were angling to fire a salvo at us. power crystals fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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One thing I will remind people of is that the air-to-air threat has escalated enormously. The Dictator is now flying Su-27s, MiG-23s and modern F-16s (possibly this model [). The MiGs are less of a worry, but the Flankers and the F-16s are scarier threats. The F-16s are as good as, if not slightly better than our Gripens in weapons, sensors, and maneuverability. We can't seriously challenge them in an air-to-air role with out Phantoms. Only our Gripens can do that job. Not to beat a dead horse, but we're seeing why buying so few Gripens and Tornadoes was a bad idea. Last mission, we saw Gripen demonstrate their standoff air-to-air capability with Meteor. If we'd had more Gripens, we'd have had better CAP and probably wouldn't have lost that Tornado to the MiG. And with their Taurus missiles, the Tornadoes have the best standoff air-to-ground capability. That's exactly what we need to kill the S-300 and the diamond truck. I will say, the Reaper has been very handy, I wish I'd thought to pick it up sooner.
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OKUSTUDENT is really determined to get that advice isn't he?
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 Proposal: Reverse Isiah Mustafa (Look down. Look up. Your diamonds are now explosions.) This plan includes Falafel Ranger. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3815107&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=91#post471691682 2x JAS 39C Gripen, 1x Sperwer UAV, 1x EA-6B Prowler, 1x Tornado IDS: Operation Falafel Ranger. 2x JAS 39C Gripen, "Pita" Equipment: Meteor, Max Intercept. (4x Meteor, 2x IRIS-T, 3x Drop Tank) Mission: 1. Provide air escort to aircraft in Falafel Ranger. 2. Upon completion of Falafel Ranger, continue to provide CAP for friendly forces in the area until Winchester. Flight Plan: - Follows Falafel Ranger plan - Remember to tanker up before ingress. - Be extremely careful if engaging hostile air contacts when in range of the S-300. If you stray out of OECM range, the S-300 will start shooting missiles into the fray. If that starts to happen, get to safety ASAP. 1x Sperwer UAV, "Arbiter" Mission: 1. Locate the diamond convoy 2. Second to "Falafel Ranger" if needed. Flight plan: 1. Stage and forward deploy as close to the diamond convoy location as possible 2. Transit to the search area at minimum altitude. 3. When at the search area, pop up to 1000 feet AGL to search for the convoy. (Remember to check "Terrain Following" since the geography is already at 5000 feet ASL) 4. When the target is located, withdraw to 20-30 nautical miles to maintain eyes on target. 5. Egress at minimum altitude. Extra: If needed, second to Falafel Ranger to ensure mission success. 1x Tornado IDS, "A Horse" Loadout: Taurus KEPD (2x Taurus, 2xIRIS-T) Mission: 1. Destroy the diamond convoy. Flight plan: 1. Loiter near tanker assets. 2. When the diamond convoy is located, proceed to engage. Avoid known AA. Extra: - If possible, program the Taurus cruise missiles to avoid known AA, and to search for the target along its expected path. (Shift-F1 manual target. Select the cruise missile in the the top-right panel. Under the panel there is a button to "Plot Course," which allows setting waypoints for cruise missiles. The Taurus cannot be retasked in flight.) 1x MQ-9 Reaper, "Meat" Loadout: Gorgon Stare EO/IR pods. Mission: 1. Locate hostile Dictator and Bulgarian ground forces in the vicinity of the Bulgarian Advance. Flight Plan: 1. Forward deploy to the search area. 2. Search for hostile ground forces in the search area. Stay above 30,000 feet, and try to stay 30-40 nautical miles south of hostile forces. 3. Avoid hostile anti-air and fighter threats. Extra: EMCOM is to keep Radar OFF. 8x F-4E Phantom II, "Sledgehammer" Loadout: GBU-24 (2x GBU-24, 2x AMRAAM, Litening TGP, DECM, 3x Drop Tanks) Mission: 1. BAI and CAS hostile Dictator and Bulgarian ground forces in the target area. Priority: 1.1. SA-2 and SA-3 covering the Bulgarian advance only 1.2. Other SAMs and AAA in the target area. 1.3. Armor 1.4. Mechanized vehicles 1.5. Infantry and other targets 2. Engage air targets of opportunity Extra: Stay at high altitude when possible. Automatic Evasion is authorized. WRA: 2 Paveways for all ground targets. 2x Hawk 209, "Salesman" Loadout: 2x AGM-65G Maverick. (2x AGM-65G, 2xSidewinder) 2x Su-25T Frogfoot, "OxyClean" Loadout: AT-16 Scallion (16xVikhr, 2xAA-8, 2x Drop Tank) Mission: 1. BAI and CAS hostile Dictator and Bulgarian ground forces in the target area. Priority: 1.1. Low-threat SAMs and AAA in the target area. 1.2. Armor 1.3. Mechanized Forces 1.4. Other targets of opportunity Extra: Avoid high-threat AA like SA-2, SA-3, and Tunguska. 6x SK 60B, "Croaker" Loadout: 145 mm Rockets (6x M/49 145 mm Rockets) Mission: 1. BAI and CAS hostile Dictator and Bulgarian ground forces in the target area. Priority: 1.1. Soft Vehicles 1.2. Infantry or other soft targets of opportunity Avoid all known AA threats. Note: I'm hoping that the bigger rockets might help give them a bigger punch. 4x JAS-39C Gripen, "High CAP" Loadout: Meteor, Max Intercept. (4x Meteor, 2xIRIS-T, 3x Drop Tank) Mission: 1. Provide CAP for friendly aircraft in theatre. Extra: - Station altitude at maximum. - Pilots are allowed to chase hostile aircraft to the deck, remember to uncheck altitude to "Auto" if that happens. - Avoid high-threat SAMs (SA-2, SA-3, SA-20). 1x S 100B Argus (AEW) Mission: 1. Provide airborne early warning and control. 2. Locate S-300 site using ELINT. 1x KC-135, 1x VC.10 Mission: - Provide tanker support at an appropriate location. Extra ROE: Mission tanker settings plus joker fuel setting should be no more than 20%. (eg: Mission tanker 10% + Joker 10%. Or mission tanker 0% + Joker 20%.) If Operation Falafel Ranger fails to destroy the S-300 site, draw a no-navigation zone around it with at least a 90 nmi radius. Psawhn fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Your plan was bad and no-one likes you Bacarruda. Down the Throat  Pre-deploy the Reaper with Gorgon Stare pods to Point Avalanche. Advance north until the convoy is spotted or the path crosses anti-air range. Launch two Gripens with maximum Meteor loads with orders to loiter over the airport. They are not to leave the area and fire at any hostiles that come in range. Bingo at 5% and quick turn around for Winchester. Load remaining Gripens with maximum air-to-air and all other attack craft capable of mid-air refueling with maximum SEAD and CAS as appropriate. Proceed with the Growler, Big Pig and the AWACS to Point Avalanche. Rally and refuel, match speeds, and have combat elements proceed north. Enemy anti-air is to be eliminated at maximum range with minimum force. Once we can confirm lack of anti-air over the Bulgarian ground forces, launch SKB60s for CAS operations against ground forces. Bomb the diamond convoy at the highest range. Once destroyed, weapons free on the Bulgarian forces. If the SA-20 Gargoyle is spotted, engage in plan Infidel. Infidel: Engage jamming with the Growler. Vector directly towards the Gargoyle. Launch the first missiles at maximum range, then raise speed to the maximum. Once a plane is out of missiles to fire, break at 90 degrees until out of range and return to Avalanche. Once destruction is confirmed return to the plan and complete operations. Added Space fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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sniper4625 posted:Thunderdome should be done in biplanes, if the game models it.  Bacarruda posted:One thing I will remind people of is that the air-to-air threat has escalated enormously. I've come around to your way of thinking with regards to Tornados, especially after losing those two. In the meantime I still stand by not having as many Gripens in favour of Phantoms, though. Those Phantoms are really good for $15M each. Saving that $140M for two Gripens paid for a lot of stuff to fill holes, like good AA for our airbase and that MQ-9. I guess we'll see how it turns out for this mission. I do expect that after this mission there won't be as many high-end fighter threats facing us.
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Added Space posted:Your plan was bad and no-one likes you Bacarruda. you say that but bacarruda's plan remains the best one so far 
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The Thunderdome should be everyone in those Aircobras that had the 37mm cannon.
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Voting for Plan By The Numbers myself. Also, willing to have my 'nado be the one slinging HARMs.
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Ikasuhito posted:OKUSTUDENT is really determined to get that advice isn't he? the original question was "should I put all my student loan money into funding a mercenary force to establish a libertarian state in Angola" the rest of the thread is Free State political and military secrets
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Can we click their kickstarter? What were their stretch goals?
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Loel posted:Can we click their kickstarter? What were their stretch goals? Mustard gas.
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Added Space posted:Your plan was bad and no-one likes you Bacarruda. Well that just seems unnecessarily mean. I updated By The Numbers to use the correct bomb (apparently I do not know my Paveways perfectly) and to fix the fact that I had 4 Gripens on SDBs and 2 on CAP when it was supposed to be the other way around.
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By the numbers edit: Looks like the Twitter wars are starting in earnest https://twitter.com/domlakumoratbbc/status/856486182917681152 Loel fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Added Space posted:Your plan was bad and no-one likes you Bacarruda. You should read up on your Maxims of Maximally-Effective Mercenaries. Maxim 71: "Be nice to people with access to laser-guided bombs." It's right up there with "Only you can prevent friendly fire" and "There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload." Loel posted:By the numbers Ahahaha dang. This is excellent.
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I'm going to need some time to draw up the maps (and may wait for all available intel to avoid last mission's clusterfuck), but can I get some general critiques of a possible OPERATION POCKET ROCKET MONSTER? Phase 1: PALETTE Objective: Get support aircraft into the air to set up later phases. ETC: 5 minutes. Flight OAK: S-100B, EW. Standard racetrack 20 nm SE of Lubango. Flight JOY: KC-135, VC10.K4, tankers. Standard racetrack 40 nm ESE of Lubango. Flight BLUE: EA-6B Prowler, w/HARM. Remain above Lubango for setup with follow-on flights. Flight LEAF: 3x2 Gripens, w/Meteors, standard intercept. High CAP. Patrol on a racetrack ~30nm from the border, prosecute up to or slightly past the border (do not pursue targets north of the border. Micromanage to shoot at confirmed hostiles as needed.) Will persist for several Phases. Phase 2: ELECTRUM Objective: Assemble the S-300 hunting flight while conducting limited strikes in support of Angolan 9th (directly north of Lubango) ETC: 1 hour (Rationale: The range of the S-300 battery is 110 nm. If it's deployed with the Bulgarians, then there is at least a small space in the west of the country out of its range--we can use this space to give our airbase some breathing room and help Von Hoff's forces.) Flight GOLD: Any CAS aircraft capable of quick turnaround (probably Frogfoots w/Scallions, SK-60Bs w/135mm Rockets OR Gun Pods). One pass of CAS/BAI on immediate targets near Angolan 9th. Flight SILVER: 2x Tornados, w/Taurus KEPR OR HARMs. Will form up with Flight BLUE during the next Phase. Flight RED: 2x Gripens, w/SDBs. Will form up with Flight BLUE during the next Phase Phase 3: GEMSTONE Objective: Search and destroy the S-300 and (optionally) Tunguska sites. Minimum viable damage to S-300 site is destruction of Tomb Stone radar. ETC: 4 hours Flights BLUE, SILVER and RED will form up, refuel at tanker, switch on jammers and fly an east-west-east search pattern parallel to the border, above the 3rd, 5th, and 19th Regiments. It will start 40 nm south from the border, then move increasingly closer in a "lightning bolt" pattern, until the emissions from the S-300 are spotted. If the S-300 is spotted, all ordnance will be fired at it in one volley. Be prepared to micromanage this! If any ordnance is (somehow) still available, fire on Tunguskas as secondary target (if visible), then any other targets. Phase 4: CULTURE Objective: search and destroy Tunguska. ETC: 1 hour Flight LUCAS: 8x Phantoms w/2000lb Paveways. BAI/CAS, with Tunguska as the priority target. Altitude restriction--do not fly below 36000 ft! Advisory: Tunguskas come in two per platoon. Assume the Bulgarians are bringing more than one platoon to defend the S-300. Transfer to CAP role when Paveways are expended. Flight DAWN: CAP flight container for Phantoms with expended Paveways. Flight ROWAN: 2x Sperwer, 1x Reaper w/Gorgon Stare. Recon for Tunguskas at high altitude. Phase 5: GRAYSCALE Objective: search and destroy any and all opfor in front of 3rd, 5th, and 19th Angolan. ETC: 2 hours Flight GOLD: Should have completed rearming from Phase ELECTRUM at this time. Upon confirmation of destruction of Tunguska, search and destroy Bulgarian forces. Flight LUCAS: Continuing from Phase CULTURE, after Tunguskas are nullified, proceed to strike other viable targets. Shift to support Mbeke's Rangers in the east as needed. Flight HILBERT: 2x Hawks w/Mavericks. Search and destroy Bulgarian forces at max launch altitude for Mavericks. Phase X: SKULL (OPTIONAL) Objective: Search and destroy diamond convoy. Only execute after Bulgarian forces have been sufficiently damaged (including S-300 and Tunguska destroyed!) and/or Mbeke's Rangers can no longer be viably supported (e.g. Phantoms are Winchester). This phase is included for completion's sake only; I do not recommend executing it. ETC: 1 hour Flight GUZMA: 2x Tornado, w/Taurus KEPR. Launch straight-line when viable. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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The main thing I wanted to minimize with my plan is this nonsense where our forces are spread out and wander halfway across the map when they get a stupid idea in their heads. Place the tanker in a position close to but behind the front where it can be screened. Have forces match speed so they don't get strung out. Top up before operations so our guys don't wander off ten feet before the goal line. Concentrate forces. Keep that in mind if you're putting your support forces somewhere far away from and at a weird angle to your operational goals.
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Added Space posted:The main thing I wanted to minimize with my plan is this nonsense where our forces are spread out and wander halfway across the map when they get a stupid idea in their heads. Place the tanker in a position close to but behind the front where it can be screened. Have forces match speed so they don't get strung out. Top up before operations so our guys don't wander off ten feet before the goal line. Concentrate forces. Keep that in mind if you're putting your support forces somewhere far away from and at a weird angle to your operational goals. Then I'm not sure why you're such bearish about my plan, given that it's literally the only one with clearly-establish No-Fly Zones and No-Engagement zones. Almost all those things (tanking, target selection, speed matching, etc.) are all things that are in Yooper's hands.
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Bacarruda posted:Then I'm not sure why you're such bearish about my plan, given that it's literally the only one with clearly-establish No-Fly Zones and No-Engagement zones. I meant your planned acquisition that got voted down and you just won't stop whining about.
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Added Space posted:I meant your planned acquisition that got voted down and you just won't stop whining about. I was feeling pretty salty about not getting more Phantoms for the Lhasa strike.
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Excuse me I'm the one salty about our diminishing local Tornado stocks tyvm
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Clearly the solution is to have our ground mercs stage a heist on the diamond convoy. We'll have all the money we could ever want! I'll finally be able to get that F-22 I've had my eye on. Lightly used, only suffocated one previous owner.
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