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Did not see this posted but apparently, Amazon will be live streaming Thursday night football games for Prime Video subscribers. This could be a beginning of groups like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon buying into sports streaming rights. https://www.recode.net/2017/4/4/15184100/nfl-amazon-football-games-thursday-streaming-watch-live-prime-twitter quote:Last year, the National Football League experimented by letting Twitter livestream 10 Thursday night games.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Did not see this posted but apparently, Amazon will be live streaming Thursday night football games for Prime Video subscribers. This could be a beginning of groups like Netflix, Hulu and Amazon buying into sports streaming rights. Thursday games are trash and everyone knows this so they lose nothing by doing this. It's why they let Yahoo stream the London games. Let me know when it's something anyone cares about.
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Apr 25, 2017 10:56
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Twitter simulcasted them last year. The NFL has been letting the rights to stream Thursday games go for cheap the last few years just to see what happens. They're generally poo poo games and with the exception of the few that are only on NFL Network, they are also broadcast on network TV, so there's not much reason to watch the stream anyway.
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Apr 25, 2017 11:56
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Yeah, they're poo poo games, but the important bit is that they're developing the technical capacity and institutional knowledge to live stream games and testing the audience for them. It's a small step, but an important one if you ever want to get to something like MLB.tv for football.
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Apr 25, 2017 15:31
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Why would I watch Thursday NFL when there's #MACtion to be watched?
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Apr 25, 2017 16:34
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Cyrano4747 posted:Yeah, they're poo poo games, but the important bit is that they're developing the technical capacity and institutional knowledge to live stream games and testing the audience for them. It's a small step, but an important one if you ever want to get to something like MLB.tv for football. I'm not sure what that last part means. Does NFL not offer some sort of online streaming solution like all the other major sports do?
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Apr 25, 2017 16:53
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I'm not sure what that last part means. Does NFL not offer some sort of online streaming solution like all the other major sports do? lol nope. The NFL sucks. If you want to watch those games streaming you need to cobble something together usually involving a cable subscription so you can access ESPN, TBS, CBS, FOX, and whoever else bought the rights to games through their interface. NFL.com has a Game Pass that gives you streaming access to pre-season games (  ) and eventually lets you watch already aired games after a certain period of time. I forget what the time delay is.Edit: laffo, I just looked it up and it's shittier than I remember. The replays are for past seasons and you can watch condensed games (about 30 minutes per game you watch) for the current season sometime after they air. edit x2: further research shows that there's an online only version of Direct TV's Sunday Ticket for $50/month, but that only gets you out of market games and it only gets you the Sunday games. Again, laffo. edit x3: gently caress me, I just did the math and that's $200 for a 4 month NFL season of only sunday games. Meanwhile MLB.tv is the whole loving April-October for $150 and everything that isn't in your market. Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 17:48
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:I'm not sure what that last part means. Does NFL not offer some sort of online streaming solution like all the other major sports do? Unlike baseball and basketball, NFL teams generally play one game a week. Thursday and Monday tend to be nationally-televised showcase games, so most of your NFL action is happening on Sunday at 1 pm Eastern 4 pm Eastern on CBS and Fox, and then a night game on NBC around 8. So unlike baseball, which is basically happening every day for five months, football has days-long stretches without games. TV loves football because its scarcity makes each game more of an event, so if you live near your favorite team, you'll tune in to broadcast TV to see them play every week. That's lucrative as hell for the networks and for the NFL. AT&T also has exclusive rights to the NFL's all-the-games product NFL GameDay that they sell through their subsidiary DirecTV to residential subscribers for a good amount of money and to business subscribers (bars) for a gently caress load of money. An MLB.tv like product for the NFL that is worth the hit they'd take from the reduction in TV audience and the disappearance of DirecTV's payment for exclusive rights would come with a monthly that nobody will pay. tl;dr The NFL isn't stupid, the incentives just aren't there. The Amazon deal, like the Twitter deal before it, is really more about getting people talking about TNF. If and when the One True NFL Streaming Product comes along Amazon and Twitter will have gently caress all to do with its operation. TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 18:00
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Just use AdFreeTime and sign up for NFL GamePass like the other sports services. If they think you aren't in the US, you get live games.
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Apr 25, 2017 18:22
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Well I mean, the NFL doesn't give a poo poo because currently they don't have to. They're the 800lb gorilla right now. If their ratings keep slipping like they did last year though, who knows what we'll see in a few years. I currently use a system involving OTA for most Sunday games, my dad's cable login for ESPN for Monday games (I think that's who had them last year?) and giving up on Thursday games so the Amazon deal will at least let me get that reliably.
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Apr 25, 2017 19:21
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Yea "the NFL doesn't have to find their audience because their audience finds them" is definitely truer for the than the a other leagues. You could have watched ten of the Thursday games on NBC/CBS or Twitter last year though. TheScott2K fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 19:32
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I like RedZone because it only shows me games when they're interesting since I don't have an investment in any particular team.
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Apr 25, 2017 19:34
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Endless Mike posted:I like RedZone because it only shows me games when they're interesting since I don't have an investment in any particular team.
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Apr 25, 2017 20:11
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Cyrano4747 posted:Meanwhile MLB.tv is the whole loving April-October for $150 and everything that isn't in your market. MLB sucks, too. I mean, they're leaps and bounds better than any other league, but I can't pay any amount of money to stream the Mariners while in Seattle. Even if you buy MLB.tv and add on the "follow my team" option, that will only get you away games IF you authenticate with your cable/satellite provider that carries the RSN, and even then you have to watch through a computer. drat you root sports, get on dtv now.
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Apr 25, 2017 20:23
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TheScott2K posted:You could have watched ten of the Thursday games on NBC/CBS or Twitter last year though.
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Apr 25, 2017 21:29
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Croatoan posted:I thought only a couple were on TV and the rest were all on Twitter? Besides, how would I cast twitter on my TV with a roku? Never mind the fact that I don't even understand how to watch a TV show on Twitter? The ones on Twitter all simulcast on NBC or CBS depending on the week. The Twitter stream was Chromecast compatible, I think, and there may have been some way for Rokus and ATVs to natively play it. Honestly can't remember that part since I have an antenna.
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Apr 25, 2017 21:51
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I'm 90% sure they were viewable on the AppleTV Twitter app.
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Apr 25, 2017 21:51
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RZA Encryption posted:MLB sucks, too. I mean, they're leaps and bounds better than any other league, but I can't pay any amount of money to stream the Mariners while in Seattle. Even if you buy MLB.tv and add on the "follow my team" option, that will only get you away games IF you authenticate with your cable/satellite provider that carries the RSN, and even then you have to watch through a computer. Using AdFreeTime or Unblock.us will also get you around the blackouts.
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Apr 25, 2017 21:54
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Luceo posted:Using AdFreeTime or Unblock.us will also get you around the blackouts. I'm not going to route my internet traffic through some service. There should be a normal way.
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Apr 25, 2017 23:05
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RZA Encryption posted:I'm not going to route my internet traffic through some service. There should be a normal way. That's VPN, which is different. The services I mentioned only handle your DNS requests.
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Apr 25, 2017 23:28
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So even though I cancelled my DTVNow subscription a few months ago I accidentally launched the app today (hadn't uninstalled it) and I am apparently still getting HBO through it. I remember there being some free HBO promotion around the time I stopped but I wasn't expecting that promo to keep going after I stopped paying. One day too late though. I just paid $15 yesterday for HBO Now for Silicon Valley.
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Apr 26, 2017 00:36
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Luceo posted:That's VPN, which is different. The services I mentioned only handle your DNS requests. Interesting, but I'd still be passing my metadata through a third party, and I still think I should be able to do it in a more normal way.
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Apr 26, 2017 01:44
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RZA Encryption posted:Interesting, but I'd still be passing my metadata through a third party, and I still think I should be able to do it in a more normal way. You can selectively route only certain sites/traffic through it though and just use your normal DNS for everything else. I only route NFL/Netflix through a similar thing. A few easily googled DNSMasq entries on your router and you're good to go.
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Apr 26, 2017 02:55
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The Gunslinger posted:You can selectively route only certain sites/traffic through it though and just use your normal DNS for everything else. I only route NFL/Netflix through a similar thing. A few easily googled DNSMasq entries on your router and you're good to go. Yes, this is possible, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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Apr 26, 2017 03:22
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One man alone yells into the coming storm: "YOU SHOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT!"
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Apr 26, 2017 14:39
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RZA Encryption posted:Yes, this is possible, but it shouldn't be necessary. Ok well good luck. I just want to watch football so I'm going bite the bullet 
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Apr 26, 2017 14:39
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RZA Encryption posted:Yes, this is possible, but it shouldn't be necessary. I mean sure, it shouldn't be necessary, but what's easier, signing up for a cheap DNS service or getting the sports leagues/networks to change their blackout policies, and in the case of the NFL, whether they'll actually sell to you at all because you're a filthy American? Unless you're hosting your own DNS server, you're passing your DNS requests through a third party, whether that be your ISP's servers (  don't do this), OpenDNS, or Google. AdFreeTime/Unblock.us is just a paid DNS service that's reputable and will get you around all of the bullshit from the sports leagues, and does it quite easily. If you want to stream paid sports subscription services in the US without blackouts, that's what you have to accept.
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Apr 26, 2017 18:43
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The whole idea behind blackouts for the NFL in TYOOL 2017 is just so absurd. Right, I guess I'm just gonna go watch the game in person since I can't watch it on TV you big jerks! No one does that. You either want to go to a game or you don't. A blackout has nothing to do with it. Physically going to a game is an experience in itself. It's just an example of monolithic corporations not giving a poo poo which has been the NFL's motto since the 60's. Then again it's completely unsurprising that cord cutters would be upset about that attitude. It's why most people cut the cord anyway.
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Apr 26, 2017 20:30
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With the NFL at least blackouts are pretty infrequent. The games sell out.
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Apr 26, 2017 20:34
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I think it depends on the owner of the game in the market. I live in Atlanta and they've blacked out like 1 or 2 games in the past 5 years. Before that I lived in Denver and well, they han't not sold out a game since 1969.
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Apr 26, 2017 20:37
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Croatoan posted:I think it depends on the owner of the game in the market. I live in Atlanta and they've blacked out like 1 or 2 games in the past 5 years. Before that I lived in Denver and well, they han't not sold out a game since 1969. In the 90's I remember Seattle having issues meeting the blackout threshold, and some local companies would buy the remaining tickets.
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Apr 26, 2017 20:48
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Iron Crowned posted:In the 90's I remember Seattle having issues meeting the blackout threshold, and some local companies would buy the remaining tickets. This would happen fairly often in Jacksonville years back. Winn-Dixie, a local grocery chain, would buy a bunch and sell them cheap or give them away. Luceo posted:I mean sure, it shouldn't be necessary, but what's easier, signing up for a cheap DNS service or getting the sports leagues/networks to change their blackout policies, and in the case of the NFL, whether they'll actually sell to you at all because you're a filthy American? I hear what you're saying, but my desire to go though a paid third party DNS server and create dnsmasq entries on my router is far lower than my desire to watch the game. I get that some people are willing to put up with that kind of jank, but I'm not. Wayne Knight fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Apr 26, 2017 22:27
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DNS fuckery is the "just plug your PC into the TV" of sports watching
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Apr 26, 2017 22:43
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It really isn't, but 
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RZA Encryption posted:This would happen fairly often in Jacksonville years back. Winn-Dixie, a local grocery chain, would buy a bunch and sell them cheap or give them away. I too am from an area with an historically lovely team. RZA Encryption posted:I hear what you're saying, but my desire to go though a paid third party DNS server and create dnsmasq entries on my router is far lower than my desire to watch the game. I get that some people are willing to put up with that kind of jank, but I'm not. This is my attitude as well, I'd rather just not watch the games. And let's be real here, the current ESPN layoffs and their radically shrinking subscriber base is proof that abstaining from the product will eventually have a positive effect. The current model for TV rights and carriage fees is unsustainable and everyone knows it. That said, it's tough to see this falling in any way beneficial to fans who've cut cords.
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Apr 27, 2017 11:55
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Krispy Kareem posted:I've got a situation that I need some peer review on. Hey I didn't want your question to get lost. So I set up an attic antenna, whatever was rated highest on Amazon at the time, and it performs great, with my old rear end vizio as the tuner. I've heard built in tuners can have issues, but you're not trying to get far off stations; I expect a better antenna will solve your problem there. Also just fyi since your mom is on sling...there is also a pbs app and all the recent content and much older content is free.
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Apr 28, 2017 23:23
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angryrobots posted:Hey I didn't want your question to get lost. Cool. Yeah, she's using the PBS app and even paid for the extra content, but it's still not as nice as having access to the actual channel. I picked up the GE 70 mile attic antenna, a stand alone tuner, and lots of RJ-6 cabling and I'm going to try and install everything this weekend. Unfortunately it just occurred to me that there's a rather large hill in front of her house that might be impacting coverage. We will see once everything is installed.
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Apr 29, 2017 01:45
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Krispy Kareem posted:Cool. Yeah, she's using the PBS app and even paid for the extra content, but it's still not as nice as having access to the actual channel. Hello! Try https://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90 Enter your mom's address and you should see what to expect.
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Apr 29, 2017 23:52
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Croatoan posted:Hello! Try https://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90 I tried that site and it was unfortunately drat accurate. The attic antenna installation got us 8 channels, none of which she wanted. Then, standing outside and holding up the antenna I got her a couple more channels. Hitching it to a ladder got her 3 times more (the big 3 were pretty spotty though). So when TVfool says rooftop, they mean rooftop. If we stick it on the roof and amplify it we can probably get the stations she wants. It looks like Dish will install an antenna for about $150. Add in the wiring and hopefully it won't cost more than $300. Happy Mother's Day I guess.
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I don't know which antenna you got but if you haven't gotten the amplifier I always recommend this one. It's rad. Winegard LNA-200 Boost Ultra Low Noise TV Antenna Amplifier Edit, sorry dude I linked the smaller, internal one earlier. Go with the LNA-200 for your mom's set up. Croatoan fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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