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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Tony Abbott says in a party that “doesn’t practice Stalinism”, he should be free to comment on the Turnbull government. horseshoe theory both sides do it
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Birdstrike posted:horseshoe theory You... You're from the Ocelot unit of Spetsnaz! What's a GRU soldier doing here?
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Gorilla Salad posted:I stand corrected.
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What's so good about it? You don't actually think he's going to be adversely affected for saying any of this poo poo, do you?
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:What's so good about it? You don't actually think he's going to be adversely affected for saying any of this poo poo, do you? It got to the stage where Bolt was telling him to put up or shut up. I can't imagine it's doing much for him.
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https://www.domain.com.au/news/home-buyers-who-could-never-afford-to-buy-get-into-market-one-brick-at-a-time-20170427-gvseiu This week in domain continuing to pretend there isnt a property crisis Time shares and a clusterfuck of property claimants with hints of ponzi
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Because not everything in this country is about Nazis I present Wait, it is all about Nazis isn't it?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It got to the stage where Bolt was telling him to put up or shut up. I can't imagine it's doing much for him. Something about counting chickens https://twitter.com/theboltreport/status/857160444276088832
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Seeing as we're counting chickens I can't wait to find out these chickens are Nazis https://twitter.com/7NewsSydney/status/857200849302429697
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Gorilla Salad posted:I stand corrected. 
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gently caress me dead. I'd say it's depressing the coalition keeps speaking voters as though they're children, but I guess they're not wrong. Federal Treasurer Scott Morrison wants Australians to think of the country's debt as either "good debt" or "bad debt", and will change the way it is reported in the budget. quote:Mr Morrison will use a speech to the Australian Business Economists to make the case for distinguishing between the types of government spending.
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freebooter posted:"It can be very wise for governments to borrow, especially while rates are low, to lock in longer-term financing and invest in major-growth-producing infrastructure assets, such as transport or energy," he will say. But what about the budget emergency and intergenerational theft?
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OUR DEBT GOOD OTHER DEBT BAD, LABORS MESS
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freebooter posted:gently caress me dead. I'd say it's depressing the coalition keeps speaking voters as though they're children, but I guess they're not wrong. quote:"Portfolios will be held responsible for the debts they are incurring for future generations as a result of their expenditure," Mr Morrison will say. This will be purely so they can point at the welfare budget and say we need to slash it hard.
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Apr 26, 2017 23:10
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Bogan King posted:Because not everything in this country is about Nazis I present I don't understand the superannuation thing that's flared up here. Even the 730 segment about it was unclear. It just seemed like rich white men were pissed off for some reason at O'Dwyer. Maybe because she was female and was pregnant, now on maternity leave.
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starkebn posted:This will be purely so they can point at the welfare budget and say we need to slash it hard. I'm honestly kind of shocked they're being so blatant about it. After all of the Medicare stuff at the last election, you'd think they'd at the very least try to be a little subtle about it. Or, hey, even stay away from it for one budget. I don't see any way this could be interpreted other than "they know they're not going to win the next election, and have decided to just do as much as they can on the way out."
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Whitlam posted:I'm honestly kind of shocked they're being so blatant about it. After all of the Medicare stuff at the last election, you'd think they'd at the very least try to be a little subtle about it. Or, hey, even stay away from it for one budget. I don't see any way this could be interpreted other than "they know they're not going to win the next election, and have decided to just do as much as they can on the way out." If only Gillard had thought the same thing and gone hard Whitlam in her last 12 months. I guess the difference between the left and the right is the right has gut. Or at least self-entitlement.
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freebooter posted:If only Gillard had thought the same thing and gone hard Whitlam in her last 12 months. I guess the difference between the left and the right is the right has gut. Or at least self-entitlement. NDIS is pretty Whitlam? Pity it has been intentionally delayed and mismanaged
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Lid posted:https://www.domain.com.au/news/home-buyers-who-could-never-afford-to-buy-get-into-market-one-brick-at-a-time-20170427-gvseiu Luckily nobody buys property to live in.
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freebooter posted:If only Gillard had thought the same thing and gone hard Whitlam in her last 12 months. I guess the difference between the left and the right is the right has gut. Or at least self-entitlement. Problem is good policy and programs need to be managed well over years, whereas cutting and burning can be dumped on the public while you run away to your golden parachute.
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freebooter posted:If only Gillard had thought the same thing and gone hard Whitlam in her last 12 months. I guess the difference between the left and the right is the right has gut. Or at least self-entitlement. Well the problem is the two major parties are either "gently caress the Poor" or "Diet gently caress the Poor". I am pretty sure the Queensland ALP are going to get hosed this year and they loving deserve it. I'd hope that this would lead to a stronger Greens vote but probably not seeing as the ALP will probably be bent on attacking the Greens
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Recoome posted:I am pretty sure the Queensland ALP are going to get hosed this year and they loving deserve it. I'd hope that this would lead to a stronger Greens vote but probably not seeing as the ALP will probably be bent on attacking the Greens I'm cringing pretty hard at a possible swing to ON in QLD.
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starkebn posted:This will be purely so they can point at the welfare budget and say we need to slash it hard. Caleb's already on the case. quote:http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/welfare-is-like-heroin-time-to-cut-the-supply/news-story/c6758e9989eec428e086f6fb97cf547c
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Zenithe posted:I'm cringing pretty hard at a possible swing to ON in QLD. I cringe at this thought DAILY
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Recoome posted:
They do deserve it but no one deserves Tim Nicholls. QLD ALP are probably going to call the election as late as possible. One Nation is likely to implode if not already doing so which destroys the LNP chances massively.
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open24hours posted:Caleb's already on the case. 
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Recoome posted:Well the problem is the two major parties are either "gently caress the Poor" or "Diet gently caress the Poor". I dunno. I don't feel the vibe in the state that accompanies a fall of government. Running Greens numbers on our target seats, and Labor numbers elsewhere, I honestly think there's a good chance of a down-the-line minority Labor Government. 1/2 Greens, 2/3 ONP, 1 KAP, 1 Independent, and 43 LNP and 44 ALP. It'll be tight as get out, but new Compulsory Preferential will help Greens (roughly 80/20 to and from ALP) more than it'll help ONP (which tends to split more 50/50 between LNP and ALP). Both Cook and Cairns will go back to the ALP, and Nicklin is a coinflip if it'll go ONP or Indi (depending who Wellington endorses). I'm still confident we'll have an ALP minority with a Left caucus still, and hopefully we can convince Robbie Katter to be less right wing after Knuth is out. I admit my experience is mostly in the inner city and in Logan but there doesn't seem to be a tide turning against Labor. People seem to be at least okay with Palaszczuk. Most complaints seem to be "do nothing government" or "too much politics, too many inquiries" but noone follows up with wanting LNP back in. People still remember Newman. Anidav posted:They do deserve it but no one deserves Tim Nicholls. QLD ALP are probably going to call the election as late as possible. One Nation is likely to implode if not already doing so which destroys the LNP chances massively. I'm not convinced. I think Labor would be better set getting out a "feel good" budget with a healthy dose of porkbarrelling and launch into a snap campaign. LNP is still a shambles and ONP is dropping candidates like flies. Most sitting Labor members have had big ticket launches to pull donors into a fighting fund, and they've confirmed candidates in pretty much every other seat (the candidate in Maiwar's first name is Ali-Breeze which is the most Paddington name). Kafka Syrup fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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The ALP hosed itself with the Adani mine poo poo. Their lack of strong opinion regarding things like abortion rights is probably not going the help them with the younger demographic e: I posted this before seeing your reply. You make some good points but we aren't even in the election pump yet
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freebooter posted:Federal Treasurer Scott Morrison wants Australians to think of the country's debt as either "good debt" or "bad debt", and will change the way it is reported in the budget. Bad debt is spending money to make sure people aren't starving or dying. I can't imagine what good debt is.
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Recoome posted:The ALP hosed itself with the Adani mine poo poo. Their lack of strong opinion regarding things like abortion rights is probably not going the help them with the younger demographic I think Labor Left seems to be warming (or at least accepting the inevitability) of working with Greens in State Parliament. Talk of using Greens to get more radical policies past the Right.
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Tokamak posted:Bad debt is spending money to make sure people aren't starving or dying. I can't imagine what good debt is. Roads.
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Tokamak posted:Bad debt is spending money to make sure people aren't starving or dying. I can't imagine what good debt is.  it's just a shell game. As long as you have a capital budget bigger than the deficit you only have "good debt"They are just trying to neutralise the ability for labor to use it as a big mallet around the head
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Let's look at this stupid loving smelly state for a second.  2015 results, soft red is Katter, grey is Independent. In order for the LNP to win they have to either not lose in the west (lol) or make gains somewhere else to make up for it. Factoring in the ALP also has natural gains to make in surviving Newman era seats that are usually Labor. The new redistribution can also mean a distant possibility of 1 Green gain or more., depending on ground game. Polls show pretty much all potential One Nation gains are in the west which fucks the LNP much harder than the ALP.
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You Am I posted:I don't understand the superannuation thing that's flared up here. Even the 730 segment about it was unclear. It just seemed like rich white men were pissed off for some reason at O'Dwyer. Maybe because she was female and was pregnant, now on maternity leave. Tokamak posted:Bad debt is spending money to make sure people aren't starving or dying. I can't imagine what good debt is. And now for the new bike helmet kerfuffle: Kids and mobile phones. What age is too young? How much more can our authoritarian regime push its hentai like tentacles into our private lives? When personal computers were in their infancy (Exidy sorcerer, TRS80 etc) everyone was falling over themselves to get kids involved with technology now it's taboo till 14? On the one hand I get that mobile addiction and phone related sleep deprivation are real issues and there is scant evidence that using a phone makes people better at using technology. In particular developing the skills needed to service that technology but regulating for what should be a parental responsibility?
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