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I was in the midst of sleeving up a turbofog deck when I heard the news. What gimmick deck am I gonna play now?
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Some dude is on the magic milwaukee facebook page right now complaining that WotC banned another one of his decks and when he got replies saying "everyone and their dog expected this ban to happen" he responded that saying that is "victim blaming"  e: araeris posted:I was in the midst of sleeving up a turbofog deck when I heard the news. that deck probably will still be just fine, vehicles isn't going anywhere
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Apr 27, 2017 02:25
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I think the 30 bucks I spent on standard cards is going to turn 3x in value in the next few days.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:26
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C-Euro posted:This is about to get lost in "lol Felidar Guardian" chat but I've always been tinkering with a couple of different Mardu builds for Modern in my head and this is one I saw the other day. I think this type of deck may want Bob oer Bedlam Reveler but I'm not 100% sure. Not me from that league, but that's my deck! Been brewing it over the course of two/three-ish years. Bob makes it a somewhat different deck and is definitely meta call. That said, people really underestimate how good (or maybe just fun) it is to play a 2-4 mana 3/4 with prowess that ancestrals when he comes down. It's a deck with tons of game againt anything fair that gets poo poo on by Tron and Scapeshift.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:27
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I love reading the salty comments of people pissed off that the lynchpin of their deck got banned and how it hurts their confidence in wizards. Guess the gently caress what you poo poo stain? Your rear end counts for about negative one billion percent compared to a casual FNM player who shows up and buys packs to have fun. Cat combo was only fun when you were in a position to utterly ruin that turn with a Kozilek's Return or something along those lines.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:25
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GoutPatrol posted:They really felt they could do no wrong (in terms of growing the base) from 09-14. Every change they have made has been made under the caveat of "game is still growing, attendance is up, this is working!" But what comes up must come down. Through a combination of changes, like removing alot of instant speed answers, overpowering marquee planeswalkers/story cards, and changing things that used to be staples of the game and saying they were "too powerful," have all come to bite them on the rear end. It is definitely true that play/draw and the early game matters way too much in standard now. I think the only "story card" that is too powerful is Gideon AOZ. The issue is that we don't have hero's downfall and all the answers to it are these sorcery speed garbage. The 1 mana ramp cards are a good way of catching you up too. So does stuff like Lightning Bolt/Strike and Path which should all be in standard.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:29
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ThePeavstenator posted:Gideon isn't even really that terrible. They just refuse to reprint Hero's Downfall which would have made even Copycat less of a problem. I just hate the design of Gideons in general. I really liked the original, but Gideon's design as a planeswalker who gets multiple quality sustainable abilities is pretty poo poo IMO. No, the lack of an ultimate does not make up for it - having no ult is better than having a mediocre one!
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Apr 27, 2017 02:29
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Typhus733 posted:Not me from that league, but that's my deck! Been brewing it over the course of two/three-ish years. Bob makes it a somewhat different deck and is definitely meta call. That said, people really underestimate how good (or maybe just fun) it is to play a 2-4 mana 3/4 with prowess that ancestrals when he comes down. It's a deck with tons of game againt anything fair that gets poo poo on by Tron and Scapeshift. Cool, glad to hear you're having fun with it. The two Mesas are the only expensive things I need so maybe this is my excuse to pick those up.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:35
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Only real complaints I'm seeing online are about the fact that the ban came a few days too late and now people can't order cards in time for the Atlanta Open this weekend. The window for on-site pickup from SCG actually closed this morning.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:35
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YeehawMcKickass posted:I love reading the salty comments of people pissed off that the lynchpin of their deck got banned and how it hurts their confidence in wizards. Guess the gently caress what you poo poo stain? Your rear end counts for about negative one billion percent compared to a casual FNM player who shows up and buys packs to have fun. Yeah, I mean competitive players never buy packs through paying like $20 for PPTQ entry, most of which goes on prizing (in packs) and the rest on paying a judge (in packs).
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Apr 27, 2017 02:37
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I'm trying to figure out what they thought Amonkhet brought to the table that would stop the deck from being a problem so they wouldn't have to ban it.
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Niton posted:I just hate the design of Gideons in general. I really liked the original, but Gideon's design as a planeswalker who gets multiple quality sustainable abilities is pretty poo poo IMO. No, the lack of an ultimate does not make up for it - having no ult is better than having a mediocre one! Oh yeah the design of every Gideon being "Midrange planeswalker with abilities of: make Gideon a big indestructible dude, 2-3 random white effects" is boring as hell. I just don't think he's some kind of OP format-warping problem.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:38
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mcmagic posted:I don't think Saheeli will see any play without the cat. It was not played at all pre Aether Revolt. Probably not but it's not as drastic as counterbalance with the top ban. Especially not when compared to the price of the counterbalance invocation which was the only thing people really gave refunds on. kirtar fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 02:39
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Only real complaints I'm seeing online are about the fact that the ban came a few days too late and now people can't order cards in time for the Atlanta Open this weekend. The window for on-site pickup from SCG actually closed this morning. Well, I imagine the line is going to be huge. Local lgs's are going to feast on this one.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:40
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Quick someone send those fuckers a pizza with ban the reserve list on it
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Apr 27, 2017 02:40
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If this is how they're going to do things, they should just move the baseline B/R announcements back a week after the prerelease/release on MTGO.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:44
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whydirt posted:If this is how they're going to do things, they should just move the baseline B/R announcements back a week after the prerelease/release on MTGO. Doesn't meet the real requirement. Public outrage.
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Apr 27, 2017 02:52
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I bought black-green snake the day before it won the first open this season and the price of everything doubled. Then it was trash for months and now it might be the top deck again. I went from smug to sad to smug again and my heart can't take it any more. Speaking of which, what's the best way to build the deck in this brave new meta? Are the stock eight cheap removal spells enough to justify the four bone pickers I want to cram in there?
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Apr 27, 2017 02:56
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This is hysterical. On the plus side my WB control list might be playable again
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Apr 27, 2017 03:00
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https://twitter.com/mfcrocker/status/857399983452168193 Keep them flowing folks.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:04
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/mfcrocker/status/857399983452168193 please don't sent hatemail to these people when they finally do something good for once
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Apr 27, 2017 03:09
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/mfcrocker/status/857399983452168193 That douche will keep buying packs like they always do.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:09
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cheetah7071 posted:Was wizards ever good at making sets or was the perceived goodness just a combination of the pre-internet world and dumb luck? I know it's impossible but I would like if a set just came out with no spoilers leading up to it and everyone find out that day what's in the set by what's in the pre-release packs
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Apr 27, 2017 03:11
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araeris posted:I was in the midst of sleeving up a turbofog deck when I heard the news. EVERYONE PLAY TURBO FOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 27, 2017 03:12
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80s James Hetfield posted:I know it's impossible but I would like if a set just came out with no spoilers leading up to it and everyone find out that day what's in the set by what's in the pre-release packs Isn't this what they're doing with the next masters set?
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Apr 27, 2017 03:13
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/mfcrocker/status/857399983452168193 Should I know who mfcrocker is?
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Lone Goat posted:Should I know who mfcrocker is? he's a dude who posts in this thread I think
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Apr 27, 2017 03:16
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The Sexual Shiite posted:Quick someone send those fuckers a pizza with ban the reserve list on it The trick is to send them one every week, same day some time, for a couple of months, and then when once they get used to free pizza cut them off. Not because doing it that way illustrates a point, just because it's a mildly dickish move if you can afford to spend that much on a bad joke. Also, LOL @ Sickening mocking MTGFInance folks who lost out speccing on Saheeli on one page and bragging about (what he guesses) his gains on standard cards are going to be on the next.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:22
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Oh, thank loving God. I wasn't even going to bother watching pro tour copycat
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Apr 27, 2017 03:23
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Elyv posted:he's a dude who posts in this thread I think So, no. Thanks!
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Oldsrocket_27 posted:The trick is to send them one every week, same day some time, for a couple of months, and then when once they get used to free pizza cut them off. Not because doing it that way illustrates a point, just because it's a mildly dickish move if you can afford to spend that much on a bad joke. I am not speccing on anything. I bought cards I might want to play with and it makes me giggle that they will skyrocket in price because people might actually want to play standard.     Even though everything but glorybringer might still end up bulk, its a brave new world where things might be playable again. Sickening fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Entropic posted:I'm trying to figure out what they thought Amonkhet brought to the table that would stop the deck from being a problem so they wouldn't have to ban it. ...Censor?
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GoutPatrol posted:...Censor? Trespasser's Curse, more likely.
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So what decks are viable now or is it just Mardu and BG Constrictor? I guess we'll all find out at the PT, I'm just curious how big Tier 1 gets now that Cat's gone.
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Soul Glo posted:So what decks are viable now or is it just Mardu and BG Constrictor? Tier one will just be two or three decks because that's about all that can occupy that space in standard.
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Soul Glo posted:So what decks are viable now or is it just Mardu and BG Constrictor? Amonkhet gave control a lot of tools, the most important of which is probably Censor so there might be room for an actual blue control deck now.
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Soul Glo posted:So what decks are viable now or is it just Mardu and BG Constrictor? I don't think we'll really know until after the pro tour. Mardu got a lot of hate added in this set, and copycat is dead.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:32
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I just want to build zombie tribal now, honestly. But I don't play Standard anymore so hey, maybe the cat ban fixes the issue at hand and we have more than 2 decks. (Haha)
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WotC doesn't get to use the "we've never actually emergency banned something from standard, Jar doesn't count" card anymore. At least they got berated into banning the stupid cat, and I wasn't even tricked into buying into the deck online by thinking, "hey they cannot possibly emergency ban here, so I'm in the clear until June!" At least the Pro Tour will be reasonably exciting to watch. We'll have to wait for the Fall set to see the wet fart that emerges from the PT that gets to play the month old format that debuts at Worlds. mcmagic posted:It is definitely true that play/draw and the early game matters way too much in standard now. I think the only "story card" that is too powerful is Gideon AOZ. The issue is that we don't have hero's downfall and all the answers to it are these sorcery speed garbage. The 1 mana ramp cards are a good way of catching you up too. So does stuff like Lightning Bolt/Strike and Path which should all be in standard. Heart of Kiran is too powerful, given the easy enablers in Toolcraft Exemplar and Scrapheap Scrounger and Gideon playing exceptionally well with it. Avacyn is stupidly powerful, but costs five mana which is a bit much given the incredibly powerful four mana cards in the format.
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SaffronOlive had a 78.5% game winning percentage with Gideon Tribal in Modern. Because lots of decks can never beat the Emblem. 
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