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Onmi posted:For the record Kate Leth was on Twitter and basically said that while people said they loved the book, they would approach her at Cons and say that they fell behind and then figured "Eh, I'll get the trade." Do they not value trade sales highly? I was under the impression that Squirrel Girl and Moon Girl make most of their bank from scholastic sales etc.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:07
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Question about Tony Stark: He was 'inverted' due to the events of Axis and never changed back, leading up to Superior Iron Man, but then he was back to his old self after Secret Wars (I think?). What ended up happening to change him back?
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Jordan7hm posted:Someone was selling ~110 marvel graphic novels on Kijiji for $250 canadian. I now own a lot of marvel graphic novels. The selection is incredibly random, but it's fun to go through and pick out random stories from the last thirty years. Stuff like Spiderman and Silver Sable, weird Avengers stories I hadn't heard of, and a whole lot of Thunderbolts. Plus the entire Peter David Hulk run (which I actually own in floppy, but whatever, this is easier to read). Did you get "The Alien Costume Saga" as part of it?
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Unlucky7 posted:Question about Tony Stark: He was 'inverted' due to the events of Axis and never changed back, leading up to Superior Iron Man, but then he was back to his old self after Secret Wars (I think?). What ended up happening to change him back? Franklin
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Apr 27, 2017 03:32
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fadam posted:Do they not value trade sales highly? I was under the impression that Squirrel Girl and Moon Girl make most of their bank from scholastic sales etc. They do, but you have to understand that you're still judged on a single-issue basis. I mean it's hard for me, because I'm Australian. And basically nothing I do in regards to comics makes a difference to what DC or Marvel will do.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:36
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fadam posted:Do they not value trade sales highly? I was under the impression that Squirrel Girl and Moon Girl make most of their bank from scholastic sales etc. The latest Ghost Rider run got hardcore, capital C, super Another Issue Was Already Solicited But Now It'll Never Come Out cancelled before the first trade was out, for example.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:48
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bobkatt013 posted:Franklin This would be the second time that Franklin fixed Tony. It's a thing. Maybe when the FF returns Franklin will fix Tony again.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:05
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Which reminds me, is Hawkeye still deaf?
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Apr 27, 2017 04:36
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Schneider Heim posted:Which reminds me, is Hawkeye still deaf? I'm pretty sure that he got a new body at some point and that fixed that, but I can't recall why I think that. Maybe when Scarlet Witch brought him back?
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Apr 27, 2017 04:46
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Schneider Heim posted:Which reminds me, is Hawkeye still deaf? He was still deaf after Secret Wars, he just usually has Starktech hearing aids that make him functionally not deaf unless there's a plot reason for it to matter.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:48
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Happy Hippo posted:I'm pretty sure that he got a new body at some point and that fixed that, but I can't recall why I think that. Maybe when Scarlet Witch brought him back? He got his ear drums punctured in the Fraction series, which was after Scarlet Witch brought him back to life.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:50
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He was actually un-deafed the first time by Franklin Richards after Heroes Reborn since Franklin didn't know he was deaf.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:53
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Fraction brought back the hearing problems, but I think it was only temporary. Just a reminder, or heads up to anyone new; Fraction's Hawkeye is a must read. So, so good. EDIT: Awesome issue of Thor this week. Quentin Quire is always a treat. The War Thor is totally Odin, isn't it? Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 04:56
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I've got a couple of the Fraction Omni's in stock at work for a pretty great deal if anybody wants one.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:17
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah, Doom's turn to being a hero is great. And I'd say it's Secret Wars that set that up, really. I prefer to think of Doom's face turn the way one of the characters in Infamous Iron Man does...he became a good guy not because he wants to be good, or because he wants to make up for anything, but simply because he found being bad to not be fulfilling. I'm sure that, since he remembers being a god, there's some 'Reed was a better god than I was. Why? Because he's 'good?'' trying to understand what happened stuff going on there, too.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:21
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I got mine recently for a steal, and I've fallen in love with the book all over again. We should do a book club about it next month.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:30
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Yeah, I asked the Hawkeye question because of that Heroes Reborn thing. I liked how his deafness was a thing in Hawkeye vs Deadpool. I want good Doom to last forever because he looks handsome in a suit.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:31
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Thanos and Baron Zemo's respective face turns are some of the most interesting things to ever happen in comics to me. It would be ridiculous to have these characters filled with remorse and become goody two shoes, because it would throw away pretty much their entire characterization, so instead their journeys become more about examining the nature of redemption and what makes a person good, and how much can a despicable human being change, and does intent matter at all or do actions determine everything, that kinda thing. Of course they've both returned to bad guy status, so whatever.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:38
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I remember when Zemo showed up in Brubaker's Cap run and everyone was worried this was a return to villainy but then it turned out what Zemo was after in that story made 100% sense with where the character was at that time and then Secret Avengers/Avengers Undercover happened and he was an evil nazi man again
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Apr 27, 2017 05:49
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Lurdiak posted:Thanos and Baron Zemo's respective face turns are some of the most interesting things to ever happen in comics to me. It would be ridiculous to have these characters filled with remorse and become goody two shoes, because it would throw away pretty much their entire characterization, so instead their journeys become more about examining the nature of redemption and what makes a person good, and how much can a despicable human being change, and does intent matter at all or do actions determine everything, that kinda thing. I really like what's happening with Clayface in Detective Comics and I'm going to be pretty chapped when some dick writer changes him back for no good reason.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:57
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Besides his oh so brief time on a farm I'm not sure you can really qualify Thanos as ever being a full on good guy or really even halfway there. He was always on the side that eventually worked out best for him. Even in something like Infinity Abyss where he's fighting his evil clones or in Marvel: The End where he literally saves the entire universe and nobody knows about it. He did those things purely out of self interest. Starlin wrote him nuanced but never really on the side of good because it was the side of good.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:58
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X-O posted:Besides his oh so brief time on a farm I'm not sure you can really qualify Thanos as ever being a full on good guy or really even halfway there. He was always on the side that eventually worked out best for him. Even in something like Infinity Abyss where he's fighting his evil clones or in Marvel: The End where he literally saves the entire universe and nobody knows about it. He did those things purely out of self interest. Starlin wrote him nuanced but never really on the side of good because it was the side of good. He was a good guy in that mini that I don't think was supposed to be a mini that predates and kinda leads into Annihilation.
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Well no, Thanos was never a "good guy", but there was that period where he was basically a space monk trying to find truth and not mess with anyone if he could help it, and that was pretty cool. I was disappointed when that was cut short so he could join the Annihilation wave.Blockhouse posted:I remember when Zemo showed up in Brubaker's Cap run and everyone was worried this was a return to villainy but then it turned out what Zemo was after in that story made 100% sense with where the character was at that time He was also evil in that Hawkeye mini that everyone forgot.
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Skwirl posted:He was a good guy in that mini that I don't think was supposed to be a mini that predates and kinda leads into Annihilation. That's the Starlin/Giffen series. Arguably the only good thing he did that series was help that one planet evacuate before Galactus eats it. And all of that is really pretense to set up that stupid Hunger thing. Then it's just a series of weird events with Beyonder and the first Herald of Galactus. Basically that series is kind of a mess because I imagine, though I don't know for sure, that Starlin left in the middle in a huff like he sometimes does when he doesn't get to do something he wants or doesn't feel like playing with others. Clearly Annihilation was on the horizon and I'm sure he wanted to have nothing to do with it because it wasn't part of his Thanos narrative. I love love love Jim Starlin but he's really way too protective of his pet characters.
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Apr 27, 2017 06:09
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RE: History rewrite by the cosmic cube. Have any of the "meta-aware" characters like Deadpool or Gwenpool commented on it? Were their memories changed as well?
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Apr 27, 2017 06:30
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twistedmentat posted:
At least it ended on a high note.
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Scaramouche posted:RE: History rewrite by the cosmic cube. Have any of the "meta-aware" characters like Deadpool or Gwenpool commented on it? Were their memories changed as well? No, because the writers probably weren't aware of it and were told not to spoil it if they were. V Oh, wait a moment. I thought you were talking, like... the 'allies used the cosmic cube' re-write, not the Kobik re-write. My bad. V KaosMachina fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 07:36
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KaosMachina posted:No, because the writers probably weren't aware of it and were told not to spoil it if they were. why would you think the writers weren't aware of it especially duggan who has been using this for months in both uncanny avengers and deadpool actual answer: deadpool's fourth wall breaking is for goofs and said goofs would break one of the subplots of his book (not knowing steve is evil now and still supporting him) and gwen's in-universe knowledge only goes up to when she started appearing in comics (so the end of the first zdarsky howard the duck book/the start of secret wars) e: okay I see your edit now but I bet writers were still aware of this? there isn't zero communication going on at marvel Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Apr 27, 2017 07:38
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Open Marriage Night posted:Fraction brought back the hearing problems, but I think it was only temporary. Nah, it was permanent, but like his previous hearing loss, it's mostly ignored unless a writer decides to make it a plot point. They just handwave it with Starktech hearing aids. (E: there was a mini with Hawkeye and Deadpool and I thing Spider-Man where it was a nice little bit of characterization that Spider-Man was basically unintelligible to Clint because he kept speaking while turned away and also wearing a mask, but Deadpool had the presence of mind to lift his mask so Clint could read his lips, because Deadpool might be a shithead but he's a thoughtful shithead) as the husband of a hearing-impaired person it brightens my day any time they don't handwave it yes people with hearing loss deserve to be in your comics too you fuckers
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Apr 27, 2017 11:01
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Onmi posted:For the record Kate Leth was on Twitter and basically said that while people said they loved the book, they would approach her at Cons and say that they fell behind and then figured "Eh, I'll get the trade." This is why I buy as many individual issues as I can. At least from Marvel, they seem quicker to cancel stuff than the others. SilverSupernova posted:At least it ended on a high note. The last page with everyone at the mall together was great.
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Apr 27, 2017 11:02
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Scarlet Spider is nuts. I miss Kaine.
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Shinjobi posted:Scarlet Spider is nuts. I suggest to keep reading then as he's going to be part of that series.
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X-O posted:I suggest to keep reading then as he's going to be part of that series. I know. I actually do feel a lot better about this series if Reilly is still a bad guy; means Kaine can still be a (reluctant) good guy. 
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Nah, it was permanent, but like his previous hearing loss, it's mostly ignored unless a writer decides to make it a plot point. They just handwave it with Starktech hearing aids. that's hawkeye vs deadpool which is a fantastic mini but spider-man is not in it I haven't read occupy avengers but it feeeels like something his hearing loss should show up in?
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Apr 27, 2017 12:16
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Jordan7hm posted:Plus the entire Peter David Hulk run (which I actually own in floppy, but whatever, this is easier to read). Has the entire run been collected? I know the Visionaries line got up to just before Dale Keown leaves and Jan Duursema comes in, and the most recent collection (the "Future Imperfect" Epic Collection) gets up to Rick and Marlo's wedding then the Future Imperfect miniseries, but I'm pretty sure that leaves about 30 issues or so before the end of the PAD run that haven't been collected yet.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Has the entire run been collected? I know the Visionaries line got up to just before Dale Keown leaves and Jan Duursema comes in, and the most recent collection (the "Future Imperfect" Epic Collection) gets up to Rick and Marlo's wedding then the Future Imperfect miniseries, but I'm pretty sure that leaves about 30 issues or so before the end of the PAD run that haven't been collected yet. Boo. I just assumed the visionaries series + the handful of extra minis had it all, because that just makes sense. It appears not.
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Yeah, I had a look - the Future Imperfect Epic Collection goes up to #419 and PAD's last issue is #470 or so. It's a pretty long one. I think it's the third-longest there's been at Marvel after Claremont on X-Men and Bendis on Ultimate Spidey.
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Eh I still have the floppies so it's ok. (but even there I'm missing like the last 20 issues) Honestly it's more about my son, so missing some issues at the end isn't a big deal. One thing I love about marvel vs DC is that it's generally more colourful and kid friendly. DC isn't much worse but I worry about weird one off issues. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Eh I still have the floppies so it's ok. (but even there I'm missing like the last 20 issues) Please let us know of any hidden gems, or really any stories in that big collection you've enjoyed. I'm always on the lookout for new/old stuff to read on MU.
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