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PunkBoy posted:Season 4, Episode 19: All the Madame's Men 
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Apr 27, 2017 03:39
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DarklyDreaming posted:Someone had to explain the reference to me and I feel dumb Coulson killed Ward by crushing his chest with his robo-hand.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:43
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Coulson killed Ward by crushing his chest with his robo-hand. Yeah I remember that now. I just didn't realize it when I first saw it
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Apr 27, 2017 03:58
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Yakmouth posted:Time to head back to the real world, looks like. I think at this point the real question is "Who aren't they going to bring back?" I think Radcliffe will either get the shaft or he'll somehow manage to be the only one to escape and leave absolutely everyone else trapped as the season cliffhanger
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Apr 27, 2017 04:04
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I think at this point the real question is "Who aren't they going to bring back?" You know how in the beginning of the season everybody was thinking that FitzSimmons was doomed to failure because 'Whedon Show'? You know how everyone right now is wondering how Fitz could possibly live with himself assuming he remembers all the poo poo he's been pulling as the Doctor?  De Caestecker is great and it would be a shame to lose him, but I'm legit worried about his chances.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:13
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I think Hope is probably the only person making it back.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:15
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X-O posted:I think Hope is probably the only person making it back. Agents of Shield Season 5: Agents of Hope.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:26
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I love May's gratuitous and completely unnecessary Matrix cartwheel.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:32
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Zero One posted:So Coulson's regret was joining SHIELD. He doesn't join and the MCU plays out differently because he isn't there to unite the Avengers and Cap isn't there to stop Hydra from taking over the world in Winter Solider. I like to think Framework-Fury's one regret involves having his eyepatch switch sides and is in every other way the same.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:47
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counterfeitsaint posted:I love May's gratuitous and completely unnecessary Matrix cartwheel. Also that she did the coolest move to kill the biggest dork in the office.
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Apr 27, 2017 04:46
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I'm the propaganda poster behind the first guy who gets shot
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Apr 27, 2017 04:48
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X-O posted:I think Hope is probably the only person making it back. I imagine Hope has to die somehow so Mack re-lives his trauma before he's willing to leave the Framework.
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Apr 27, 2017 05:08
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counterfeitsaint posted:I love May's gratuitous and completely unnecessary Matrix cartwheel. It's a great way to show May just dominating the Framework yet again
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Apr 27, 2017 07:27
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3 DONG HORSE posted:It's a great way to show May just dominating That's what you really mean, right?
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Apr 27, 2017 07:37
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Will Deathlok also be in the Framework? They're bringing back everyone else it seems
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Apr 27, 2017 08:00
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counterfeitsaint posted:I love May's gratuitous and completely unnecessary Matrix cartwheel. They're inside a computer simulation. Having someone do a Matrix move is basically mandatory.
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Apr 27, 2017 08:22
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X-O posted:I think Hope is probably the only person making it back. Even if she doesn't, if someone doesn't perk up and cast her as Moon Girl at some point after the Infinity War storyline is done I'm going to be even more disappointed than usual.
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Apr 27, 2017 12:00
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at this point may has tried to escape the simulation infinite amount of times. When she eventually gets out she'll be a superhero just out of sheer combat experience.
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Apr 27, 2017 12:03
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Strom Cuzewon posted:That's what you really mean, right? If you are having heart problems, this could mean you are having blood flow issues in other parts of your body. 
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Apr 27, 2017 12:11
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PunkBoy posted:So even in the Framework, Nick Fury tried to recruit Coulson. 
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Apr 27, 2017 13:17
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I think people are too hung up on the "regret" thing. It's just a pivotal moment in their lives that was changed.
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Apr 27, 2017 13:52
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It makes sense he might regret it (even if just subconsciously). He may feel he caused a lot of pain to friends and family and people died because of him. Also him getting killed and revived and how much that screwed with him.
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Apr 27, 2017 14:37
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Aida described it as a regret. I mean, in the case of both May and Coulson, maybe they feel that those decisions are their biggest regrets, but the Framework is kind of showing that the world is a much worse place if they didn't choose that path (well, if you combine it with everyone else's biggest regret )
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Apr 27, 2017 14:46
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I can't remember the specific episode, but it was close to the end of the second arc: Coulson was having some down-time and told someone (May, I think) that if he could do it all again he'd have become a teacher instead. At the time it felt to me like a kind of forced moment, sort of like Fitz suddenly angsting about his Dad for no apparent reason, but now we know it was foreshadowing. Of course now that Coulson got his wish, his new 'regret' is not joining SHIELD -- some people were just born to be unhappy, I guess.
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Apr 27, 2017 15:04
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Hope has to die in order to force real world Mack into a more serious, baby-making relationship with YoYo.
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Apr 27, 2017 15:18
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Yakmouth posted:Of course now that Coulson got his wish, his new 'regret' is not joining SHIELD -- some people were just born to be unhappy, I guess. Grass is always greener on the other side. It's a huge "what could have been" moment where so many things he's lost, including his life, could have been kept if he'd made one single different choice. I don't get the impression that Coulson is truly unhappy due to taking Fury's offer, just that it's a huge, life-defining decision he can't help but wonder the other forks of.
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Apr 27, 2017 15:20
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Even if she doesn't, if someone doesn't perk up and cast her as Moon Girl at some point after the Infinity War storyline is done I'm going to be even more disappointed than usual. Not even comic fans care much about Moon Girl.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:22
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irlZaphod posted:I've just realised that seems to be the one "regret" which Coulson changed - turning down the offer to join SHIELD. That's kind of a bummer. And having seen both options, he can make the only choice Coulson would ever make, but with a clear conscience.
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Apr 27, 2017 16:25
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X-O posted:Not even comic fans care much about Moon Girl.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:16
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The problem with bringing someone back is that they aren't real. Anyone who is not a Shield agent hooked up to the Framework is just a bunch of software made to emulate a real person. Hope can never be the kid that Mack lost, at best she is a completely different person, at worst she is just a bunch of software that contains nothing but the bare minimum to emulate a person.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:27
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She's made of magic Darkhold software though. Anything involving the Darkhold is kind of like Speed Force. It throws all logic out the window.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:29
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Oasx posted:The problem with bringing someone back is that they aren't real. Anyone who is not a Shield agent hooked up to the Framework is just a bunch of software made to emulate a real person. Or maybe realness and personhood are defined by something less mundane than flesh and blood?
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Apr 27, 2017 17:31
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Floppychop posted:She's made of magic Darkhold software though. Yeah. The Darkhold is basically a Monkey's Paw, it'll change reality however you want but not in the way you want it.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:32
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I wonder how long the half-life on taking someone out of the Framework and them going crazy is. Also, watch Aida get herself a real body and immediately shut down the Framework and get everyone out because she suddenly has a conscience.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:36
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My hope is that she goes "Finally I have a real bod—" and then is immediately shot through the liver by Jemma.
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Apr 27, 2017 17:36
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Andrew_1985 posted:Will Deathlok also be in the Framework? They're bringing back everyone else it seems He's probably an unaugmented dude working as a store clerk or something, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a cameo
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Apr 27, 2017 17:40
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Oasx posted:The problem with bringing someone back is that they aren't real. Anyone who is not a Shield agent hooked up to the Framework is just a bunch of software made to emulate a real person. Except 1) these bunches of software are completely fooling the real people in the Framework, and 2) AIDA is going to do exactly what you say is so problematic, so why can't the other blobs of code, which also evidently can learn from unexpected stimuli?
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Apr 27, 2017 17:55
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He's probably an unaugmented dude working as a store clerk or something, I wouldn't be surprised if he got a cameo
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Chokes McGee posted:My hope is that she goes "Finally I have a real bod—" and then is immediately shot through the liver by Jemma.
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