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Raenir Salazar posted:IIRC someone thought it was unlikely for Red Army soldiers to make it from Stalingrad to Berlin, IIRC Katakov's Tank Guards Brigade actually managed to fight the war from Stalingrad to Berlin. The formation maybe, but how many footsoldiers who were in those units were still fighting during the battle for Berlin instead of being dead, too injured to fight, transferred to rear-area units or promoted to positions where they wouldn't be on the frontline?
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Nenonen posted:It used to be Is that...is that a model tank? It doesn't look real.
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Phi230 posted:True alcoholics are thin as twigs I can't even play strategy games on easy while drunk, so I'm genuinely impressed by famous generals who won wars while wasted all the time
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Ensign Expendable posted:First person view of various hospitals in North Africa and then Europe as that German guy whose diary was posted. First person view of assorted ladies receiving the blitz across Europe - same diary, DLC sponsored by Brazzers
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Plan Z posted:I can think of two games that depicted concentration camps, one of them being New Order (where you see healthy, muscular people just doing lever-pulling labor and ends with a stompy robot combat section) That part started with the player and a bunch of others being processed like cattle to an uncertain fate only to be sent to the side to pull that lever.
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I always thought it might be really interesting to do a WWII game in a similar method to that of SpecOps: The Line, except from the German perspective where you are a random dude with a rifle in 1938 and then it follows you through the war. You start out annexing Czecheslovakia and invading Poland and France as the easy early levels before being sent to Africa and then the Eastern Front and then over to the Ardennes and finally back into Berlin with a constantly escalating difficulty curve showing just how badly misjudged the chance of winning the war was. Lots of kind of "corner of your eye" warcrimes stuff happening at the start and getting more and more blatant until at the end you're left sitting in a U-Bahnhof with three kids, an old dude and the plucky sidekick character who's been there all along and now won't stop saying "we deserve this" over and over again. Even keep the ending of SpecOps intact, and let you chose how the war ends for you. Of course the problem here is that someone, somewhere, will totally miss the point and decide that Being A Nazi Is Cool so maybe it's better that this game will never exist.
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zoux posted:I thought Drunk Grant was a myth? I'm honestly not sure, but even if so there must have been other drunk generals getting things done out there
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Arquinsiel posted:I always thought it might be really interesting to do a WWII game in a similar method to that of SpecOps: The Line, except from the German perspective where you are a random dude with a rifle in 1938 and then it follows you through the war. You start out annexing Czecheslovakia and invading Poland and France as the easy early levels before being sent to Africa and then the Eastern Front and then over to the Ardennes and finally back into Berlin with a constantly escalating difficulty curve showing just how badly misjudged the chance of winning the war was. Lots of kind of "corner of your eye" warcrimes stuff happening at the start and getting more and more blatant until at the end you're left sitting in a U-Bahnhof with three kids, an old dude and the plucky sidekick character who's been there all along and now won't stop saying "we deserve this" over and over again. Even keep the ending of SpecOps intact, and let you chose how the war ends for you. Achievement Unlocked: Clean Wehrmacht
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zoux posted:Achievement Unlocked: Clean Wehrmacht
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Arquinsiel posted:I always thought it might be really interesting to do a WWII game in a similar method to that of SpecOps: The Line, except from the German perspective where you are a random dude with a rifle in 1938 and then it follows you through the war. You start out annexing Czecheslovakia and invading Poland and France as the easy early levels before being sent to Africa and then the Eastern Front and then over to the Ardennes and finally back into Berlin with a constantly escalating difficulty curve showing just how badly misjudged the chance of winning the war was. Lots of kind of "corner of your eye" warcrimes stuff happening at the start and getting more and more blatant until at the end you're left sitting in a U-Bahnhof with three kids, an old dude and the plucky sidekick character who's been there all along and now won't stop saying "we deserve this" over and over again. Even keep the ending of SpecOps intact, and let you chose how the war ends for you. Less "someone, somewhere" and more "lots of people, in lots of places," I think. Not a bad idea otherwise.
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Arquinsiel posted:You've... you've not played SpecOps have you? No, but I know the point of it. But you know that Wehraboos would try to play it in such a way as to prove the myth.
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Found a photo of the CoD WW2 Sherman, it's also garbage. The way they modeled the tank, it would be unable to move at all.
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Apr 27, 2017 21:26
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Phi230 posted:Is that...is that a model tank? It doesn't look real. Yes and I'm glad that someone caught it. Though I was just desperately looking for something vaguely similar to that side shot of the Wiesel, the point of comparison actually being a plastic tank much smaller than Wiesel is just a bonus.
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Apr 27, 2017 21:38
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StandardVC10 posted:Less "someone, somewhere" and more "lots of people, in lots of places," I think. Not a bad idea otherwise. zoux posted:No, but I know the point of it. But you know that Wehraboos would try to play it in such a way as to prove the myth.  Ensign Expendable posted:Found a photo of the CoD WW2 Sherman, it's also garbage. The way they modeled the tank, it would be unable to move at all. 
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HISTORICALLY ACCURATE! http://i.imgur.com/Hsx12qX.gifv
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They literally spent an hour talking about all the research they did to make things Authentic, so this is all pretty pathetic.SeanBeansShako posted:"Look we're diverse! we got a BRITISH SOLDIER, and later in the game there are black American soldiers, a lady, a child and a Jewish person!" It should end with you, a civilian, in Nagasaki.
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Fangz posted:They literally spent an hour talking about all the research they did to make things Authentic, so this is all pretty pathetic. Wasn't there a guy who somehow managed to be in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima for the bombs, and he lived to tell about it? They should have you play as him.
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So quoting myself here because someone elsewhere found a source "The Burning Sky" a 1940's movie made in Japan. It has plenty of aircraft in it, but it seems that the fighter is actually a Type 97 Nate versus a Type 95, acting as a stand-in.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Tiger II This one doesn't seem to be immediately wrong, aside from the transport tracks.
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Fangz posted:They literally spent an hour talking about all the research they did to make things Authentic, so this is all pretty pathetic. Nah, if you wanted to go for maximum edge... Tutorial/first couple campaign missions are set in the Philippines, where you fight off the Japanese invasion and are eventually captured. Middle of the game, revisit that same character, where you fight your way out of the prison camp in a reenactment of the Cabanatuan raid, only to be captured again just before you can escape. Then, the last mission of the game (Maybe a post-credits sequence) is you, as a POW, on the streets of Hiroshima.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Wasn't there a guy who somehow managed to be in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima for the bombs, and he lived to tell about it? They should have you play as him. Supposedly he survived Hiroshima, went back to Nagasaki and was bombed while trying to explain to his boss how an entire city was wiped off the face of the earth with one weapon. Slightly related, my deceased great-aunt was actually a nurse who was at Hiroshima after the bomb dropped. She never talked about it in detail but she did always tell us that we (as in, everyone in the family) were not allowed to give into despair and cry because she didn't cry when she was nuked, and whatever you are going through isn't nearly as bad as that. She was like the personification of the Japanese saying "it can't be helped", which coincidentally she used to tell us all the time. I only asked her about the bomb once, and she knew that I was getting into photography so she gave me a book that was entirely photos taken post-bomb. I never asked her about it again, and also I didn't sleep for like a week because holy poo poo a crocodile person (?) is the most horrifying thing I've ever seen 
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Ainsley McTree posted:Wasn't there a guy who somehow managed to be in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima for the bombs, and he lived to tell about it? They should have you play as him.
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zoux posted:I thought Drunk Grant was a myth? It is, for the most part. Grant certainly has some issues with alcohol, and went on some crazy benders from time to time, but not while anything important was actually happening. Probably no shortage of drunk officers through history though.
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Don Gato posted:Supposedly he survived Hiroshima, went back to Nagasaki and was bombed while trying to explain to his boss how an entire city was wiped off the face of the earth with one weapon. wikipedia posted:That morning he was telling his supervisor how one bomb had destroyed the city, to which his supervisor told him that he was crazy, and at that moment the Nagasaki bomb detonated. That has to be the most dramatic way anyone has ever won an argument.
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wdarkk posted:That has to be the most dramatic way anyone has ever won an argument. These days the guy would just say the growing mushroom cloud was fake news.
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wdarkk posted:That has to be the most dramatic way anyone has ever won an argument. It's so perfect that I feel like it kind of has to be bullshit but the guy survived two atomic blasts so let him have it maybe
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Arquinsiel posted:It's the kind of thing that could actually be pretty powerful and interesting if done well, but I'm not sure that "games as art" is well established enough yet to let you get away with making a deliberately unfun WWII shooter that forces the player to confront their own darker impulses. The market for deliberately unfun art is like three people total. Everyone else will complain how your painting is ugly and a kid could make it and your sound thing is annoying and a kid could make it etc etc
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I've always wanted a vidja game where you play as a German kid drafted to the eastern front at the end of the war then need to fight your way to the western front to surrender.
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PittTheElder posted:It is, for the most part. Grant certainly has some issues with alcohol, and went on some crazy benders from time to time, but not while anything important was actually happening.
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Ainsley McTree posted:It's so perfect that I feel like it kind of has to be bullshit but the guy survived two atomic blasts so let him have it maybe
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Ensign Expendable posted:First person view of various hospitals in North Africa and then Europe as that German guy whose diary was posted. dont forget to "destroy" a village and then surrender to the Americans the next day.
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HEY GAIL posted:trying to imagine which would do that scene better, seinfeld or the original clerks I'm imagining an extremely hungover Bohemian guy at White Mountain complaining that he's not supposed to even be here today, as the Catholics start opening fire edit: just realised I misread your post but i'm sticking with it 
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HEY GAIL posted:drunk officers are fine Just look at this drunk incompetent who can barely ride a horse: 
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Ensign Expendable posted:This one doesn't seem to be immediately wrong, aside from the transport tracks. Not broken from mechanical failure, 0/10 for accuracy.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Nah, if you wanted to go for maximum edge... Operation Flashpoint had a really great 'final mission' where it's years after the war and you are touring the battlefields you fought across with some other veterans.
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Fangz posted:Operation Flashpoint had a really great 'final mission' where it's years after the war and you are touring the battlefields you fought across with some other veterans. I loved flashpoint, arguably the best single player experience ever made. You post made me want to play that mission again...
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Fangz posted:Operation Flashpoint had a really great 'final mission' where it's years after the war and you are touring the battlefields you fought across with some other veterans. This makes me want to try it out for this alone. I was kind of hesitant to do so because I heard of how unrelentingly punishing it could be sometimes (he says, having played both ArmA II and ArmA III). 
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