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canyoneer posted:The old Smooth Criminal What is the logic behind not allowing it? Looking at RAW it seems 100% legit, to me.
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Those U-Wing shenanigans are hilarious. What's better than two U-Boats? THREE U-boats! Contracted Scout (25) Adaptability (0) Extra Munitions (2) Proton Torpedoes (4) Unhinged Astromech (1) Scavenger Crane (2) Guidance Chips (0) Contracted Scout (25) Adaptability (0) Extra Munitions (2) Plasma Torpedoes (3) Unhinged Astromech (1) Scavenger Crane (2) Guidance Chips (0) Contracted Scout (25) Adaptability (0) Extra Munitions (2) Plasma Torpedoes (3) Unhinged Astromech (1) Scavenger Crane (2) Guidance Chips (0) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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I shared it also. I'm told the latest FAQ says you don't get Kanan on the two straight. I can't go checking that though.
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Apr 27, 2017 18:54
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I shared it also. I'm told the latest FAQ says you don't get Kanan on the two straight. I can't go checking that though. Apparently in the FAQ it says you can't trigger card effects on that maneuver, which just seems really dumb. What possible broken interaction are they preventing, besides a turretless big ship that costs 43 points getting a 1 hard.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I shared it also. I'm told the latest FAQ says you don't get Kanan on the two straight. I can't go checking that though. Pretty sure that's fake news.
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 Edit: What is that, a Cylon? I didn't think we actually had a FFG emote.
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Strobe posted:Apparently in the FAQ it says you can't trigger card effects on that maneuver, which just seems really dumb. What possible broken interaction are they preventing, besides a turretless big ship that costs 43 points getting a 1 hard. The only restriction noted is that the speed, bearing, or difficulty of the 2-straight can't be modified. e: Oh wait, forgot that the red maneuvers thing is in errata AND rules clarifications, because why not: 
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Apr 27, 2017 18:58
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
Yep, that's a Cylon emote because we have a huge Battlestar Galactica board game community and we got gotten by FFG rules hundreds of times.
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Apr 27, 2017 19:12
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Strobe posted:Hey guys, this incredibly dumb idea just got posted to a facebook group I'm in. Please rate it from MWG to pro-tier: You can also kanan on the daredevil and not have to do the 2 forward i think since daredevil was changed to a white maneuver.
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Apr 27, 2017 19:27
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banned from Starbucks posted:You can also kanan on the daredevil and not have to do the 2 forward i think since daredevil was changed to a white maneuver. The timing is the same as Inertial Dampeners. The stress gets added after the maneuver is complete, which locks Kanan out.
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Apr 27, 2017 19:29
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Finster Dexter posted:The only restriction noted is that the speed, bearing, or difficulty of the 2-straight can't be modified. I'm gonna go with "Kanan procs AFTER revealing, not WHEN revealing, so it's okay" just to be a contrary rear end in a top hat.  (it says move as if it were a maneuver which means it's not a maneuver so yeah no Kanan imo)
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Apr 27, 2017 19:32
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It also says "Speed, bearing, and difficult of this maneuver may not be changed" which explicitly says it is a maneuver. The problematic part is that the title happens on reveal, so no flipping around. 
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Apr 27, 2017 19:36
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'twas a nice thought, anyways. Just wish U-Wings weren't so useless 90% of the time.
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Strobe posted:It also says "Speed, bearing, and difficult of this maneuver may not be changed" which explicitly says it is a maneuver. BURN IT ALL DOWN AND START ANEW A GLORIOUS X-WING 2.0 FUTURE AWAITS, COMRADES
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Finster Dexter posted:The only restriction noted is that the speed, bearing, or difficulty of the 2-straight can't be modified. This also means you can't turn around after the 0 stop. So that whole thing is wrong.
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To which I again ask: what possible exploit does that clause prevent, and why is it in there for what is seemingly the singular reason to make sure this 43 point large ship with no turret unable to 1-hard.
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Strobe posted:To which I again ask: what possible exploit does that clause prevent, and why is it in there for what is seemingly the singular reason to make sure this 43 point large ship with no turret unable to 1-hard. Why are you obsessed with doing one hards with the u-wing when you can use a ghost with hera and fcs and do it better.
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Strobe posted:To which I again ask: what possible exploit does that clause prevent, and why is it in there for what is seemingly the singular reason to make sure this 43 point large ship with no turret unable to 1-hard. Probably to avoid abusing interactions for what is supposed to be a fix for an illegal game state. It's less a rules interaction and more of a, "we need something or some games will just come to a halt and never resolve." I still agree that it's also No Fun Allowed, but it's fair.
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gently caress Fun, Goons.
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I mean there's no reason to take that combo in any case, since Hera crew+Daredevil lets you do the same thing (Flip the Pivot Wing title twice in the same turn, so you don't lose an agility die/loudly shout to everyone "I INTEND TO DO A FLIP NEXT TURN") for much cheaper.IronSaber posted:'twas a nice thought, anyways. The U-Wing's problem is that they want to be a support ship, but they're too unmaneuverable, there's not any Rebel crew that actually justify taking a dedicated support ship, and the pilot abilities are universally garbage. For a while I thought there was a chance that future crew options could potentially turn it into an interesting choice... but with the upcoming Wookie Gunship, I doubt there will be any situation where you wouldn't want to pay the extra points for the side arcs and extra health. The U-Wing is basically the poster child for why FFG should refrain from releasing ships from new movies until the movies are actually out. I know why they do it (Gotta capitalize on the movie craze), but had they actually waited for the movie to come out, they could've used it as a reference to add in side arcs or other mechanics that could have made the U-Wing worth playing, as opposed to tossing together half-baked ideas that don't mesh into a cohesive whole.
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U-Wing should have been a small ship base, no torpedo slots but can take three crew and have side arcs for door gunners.
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It might be in their contract that they have to have "X product from Y movie released by Z date" or something. I doubt Disney gives a poo poo beyond "Is this making us enough money?"
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Admiral Joeslop posted:It might be in their contract that they have to have "X product from Y movie released by Z date" or something. I doubt Disney gives a poo poo beyond "Is this making us enough money?" "You're telling me people are playing small versions of these movie ships and having tournaments? And there's dice and cards? These people are how old?" - A Disney exec, probably
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Hey, is there an app that keeps track of X-wing ship shields, crits and dials? If not, why?
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Going for an escalation tourney next week, trying to work out my list. 60-90-120, 3 rounds only. Round 1 "Omega Leader" (21) Juke (2) Comm Relay (3) Countess Ryad (34) Crack Shot (1) TIE/x7 (-2) Round 2 Black Squadron Pilot (14) Crack Shot (1) Black Squadron Pilot (14) Crack Shot (1) Round 3 Academy Pilot (12) "Howlrunner" (18) Crack Shot (1) Total: 120 View in Yet Another Squad Builder My idea is to start of with some strong heavy hitters, then slowly build up a miniswarm for the endgame when the strength of individual ships is going to wane. Only question is whether I should use Ryad, or an alternative ace-type. I've also considered Vessery, but I have a feeling Ryad may be a little bit more flexible in view of her wingmates, and taking her allows me to squeeze in another crackshot. Any thoughts or suggestions? Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Apr 28, 2017 |
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I saw a vicious imp list at a escalation tourney a few months ago in Sydney. I can't remember the whole list. but it was Vessary with Swarm Leader + 2 other defenders and omega leader. It wrecked poo poo.
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Ringo Star Get posted:"You're telling me people are playing small versions of these movie ships and having tournaments? And there's dice and cards? These people are how old?" And there's actually people on Reddit complaining that Disney isn't making enough innovative star fighter designs for use in TLJ to be turned into XWTMG expacks. Ya, because Disney really gives a poo poo that they're not coming up with enough stuff to be mined for their table top wargame. I get it, it's just not their priority when they make a movie.
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AndyElusive posted:And there's actually people on Reddit complaining that Disney isn't making enough innovative star fighter designs for use in TLJ to be turned into XWTMG expacks. Ya, because Disney really gives a poo poo that they're not coming up with enough stuff to be mined for their table top wargame. I get it, it's just not their priority when they make a movie. Having enough spaceships to sell a bunch of toys is very much a priority when making a Star Wars movie.
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Everyone knows this, but their concern isn't to make spaceships that can be specifically used in X-Wing The Miniature Game. Nobody cares if a tabletop wargamer doesn't think the new A-Wing does or doesn't look innvovative enough because Disney can show something, anything, spaceship or otherwise on screen for half a second and turn it into something someone somewhere will buy.
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Finster Dexter posted:The only restriction noted is that the speed, bearing, or difficulty of the 2-straight can't be modified. Um doesn't the red text make Hera crew unusable? Lol ffg.
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There is going to be a few new ships for TLJ. A new badass looking tie interceptor photo was leaked ages ago.
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Raged posted:There is going to be a few new ships for TLJ. A new badass looking tie interceptor photo was leaked ages ago. No black T-70 for Poe though 
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hoiyes posted:Um doesn't the red text make Hera crew unusable? Lol ffg. Nah. Hera's not an effect that has to resolve. "You may..." is not "When you..."
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Just played a few games with Jess/Nora/Sharna vs a Miranda list. I won, but gently caress that noise. It was so boring chasing down Miranda as the last ship every game. Only friggin reason I won was because I had 2 ships left and could eventually box her in. Hell I had R2D2 and felt shame. It is just a boring, boring play style. I really hope the Stresshog/Biggs/Miranda list does not make it to the top 4 at world's otherwise we are going to be drowning in this poo poo at tournaments. I hope the ship carrying the K-Wing reprints gets nuked by North Korea. I really wanted to take a competitive rebel list to the AUS Open, but I think I would rather punch myself in the balls. gently caress it Scum4Lyfe I've watched tourney stream again of the Heaver list flying against Mindlink lists. I really think mindlink lists should be able to fight it. Bad starting positioning at the start seems to be problem #1. The stress hog is always going to be the first ship deployed and you drat well know that Biggs and Miranda are going right next to it. The mindlink list (let's say 2 J5K and Fenn with inspiring recruit instead of 4lom) should set up directly across with Fenn set up so he can hang in the back for a bit. The J5K move balls out to get into TL range and laugh at the stress due to the recruit. Fenn hangs out of range being the focus monkey till Biggs gets nuked then everyone ignores the y-wing and takes Miranda out behind the woodshed. She can try to run but as soon as she does she will have Fenn on her flank. gently caress it, I want that list to win World's next week so I can beat the poo poo out of it repeatedly.
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Someone paint me a neon interceptor that looks like the one at the end of this video plz tia https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eKMSdsdjqWI
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Raged posted:Just played a few games with Jess/Nora/Sharna vs a Miranda list. Which mindlink list are you talking about?
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banned from Starbucks posted:Someone paint me a neon interceptor that looks like the one at the end of this video plz tia I posted my tropical mango interceptor a while back but this is also good. I might do this for another interceptor or the FO fighters.
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