Hillary Clinton has a book about the election now

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VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

Maya Fey posted:

all that conspiracy theory stuff and nobody pointed out that hillary was sending us a secret message when she "collapsed" in "new york" due to the "heat" on "9/11"

jet fuel can melt android skeletons!

# ? Apr 28, 2017 14:29

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# ? May 10, 2024 19:13

Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

skasion posted:

It's already about as hard as I would expect a book that literally says it's trying to make you sympathetic to her point of view to be. It gets across that her point of view is batshit nuts, totally isolated from reality by entitlement, riches, and sycophants (there's a particularly memorable passage where she, baffled by Sanders and Trump's success, asks one of her aides, "what is everyone so angry about?") and that's why she confused the map for the territory and why she was such a deluded fool who ran without a reason and lost without enthusiasm. Even the authors can't resist the temptation to deflate her and her campaigns attempt to blame others for her loss and suggest that sometimes the problem is blindness to one's own problems. If you want to read a book that just straight up bashes Hitlery Cunton without any pretense of sympathy for her, there's practically a cottage industry of that since the 90s

Yeah this is my take on the book.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 14:44

Sebastien Lenorman: Apr 12, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

I really have to repost this for the new page because its just so, so good. I want to print it out and hang it on my wall. Its better than freeper tears:

quote:

Enough. I�ve had enough. Enough of your whiny laments about Hillary Clinton. You thought you knew Hillary when the primary campaign began. You knew the sound of her voice and her laughter and you made up your mind that those things bothered you. You thought the way she smiled � or when she chose not to � told you a lot about her, but your sneers told us more about you. You decided that a lifetime devoted to politics had ruined Hillary, even when the only alternatives on the ballot were a man mired in politics for 30 years who never got anything done and a man who knew nothing about anything who spent a lifetime devoted to fraud.
Either you never knew or you never cared that Hillary polled higher than everyone else when the race began (yes, even higher than Bernie Sanders) but you sure loved to crow when a systematic take-down caused her popularity to dip. As soon as the media saw that picking Hillary apart got more viewers than lifting her up, we got an earful � from men our age, men older than us, men younger than us � eager to lecture us constantly about Hillary Clinton, didn�t we? And it�s still going on. It�s the lecture that never ends. It spreads like a virus, sexually transmitted from dudebro to dudebro, so by now every manchild out there with a gripe against Hillary has added his voice to the giant monster that ate this election.
Men like these hate women like Hillary especially when those women attain positions of power. These men all say, �Oh, I�d vote for Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris.� Sure, pal. Sure you would. Let�s see what happens once they become actual threats. Right now you like them because you can frame them as plucky Frank Capra heroines but just wait until they actually start wielding real power and begin winning votes, or worse, �robbing� votes from your iconic male idols.
Now a new book Shattered has rushed to publication, attempting to vindicate perpetual crybabies like Bill Maher and others with 320 pages of breathless anecdotes about how Hillary screwed this thing up. TV personalities who make millions riling up crowds need easy explanations for their wisecracks and sound-bites because what if the real reason reveals something deeper and darker about the American identity?
Who wants to hear that? What if people cackling in bed at Fallon and Colbert were told the truth: that Trump won because too many immature simpletons couldn�t feel cozy toward Hillary when she failed turn on the charm? What if one of the real reasons Democrats lost is because too many men don�t think a women has any value after she�s no longer sufficiently fuckable? What if it really was that several million voters were stupid enough to fall for the endless campaign waged against Hillary for the past 30 years? What then? The same male drones whose impulses are ruled by their reptilian brain stems instead of logic and reason were so intimidated by a woman in power that they voted for the dumbest, most vindictive, and criminally self-serving egomaniac in American presidential history. That sad fact is far too hard to swallow for viewers of late-night talk shows, so all the glib hosts go in for the easier, more palatable kill: �Hillary sure hosed it up!� � hoping we forget that their relentless mockery helped destroy her chances.

But enough is enough. We�re sick of seeing men shrug off the part they played in this debacle and try to lay the blame on the woman they savaged. The more asinine people like Bill Maher criticize Hillary Clinton the more of us will rise up to defend her. You see how that works? Yeah, and Chelsea too. Totally Chelsea. We�re going to be all over Chelsea hashtags on Twitter, posting positive stories about her, hoping she runs for office just to watch the caterwauling white dudebros lose their poo poo.
Despite the near impossibility of electing two Democratic presidents in succession when the previous one leaves office (last time it happened? 1856) it did look like possibly the first woman might get elected and boy did that simple fact upset people. We weren�t even allowed to be excited about it. Not even allowed to talk about it because it meant we were VOTING WITH OUR VAGINAS! How do you beat the first woman? Well you have to divide the women. And divide they did � on the right and the left.
Hillary knew she�d be getting it from the right worse than anyone has ever gotten it. But she couldn�t have planned for the left�s body blow. That she didn�t see coming. Even Obama�s campaign in 2008 wasn�t near the brutal enmity she faced from Team Bernie. And of course, after her defeat eight years ago, she graciously stepped aside and worked as hard as humanly possible to bring her most ardent supporters over to Obama. In stark contrast, Bernie had to be put in a time-out up in the rafters at the convention in Philly, slumped in his seat with a pissed look on his face, pouting and egging on his malicious little monsters down below who did nothing but chant as viciously and stupidly as the Trump supporters. That is what happens when men have to lose to women. Now we know.
Why do we who still stand with Hillary like her so much? Because, despite the fabricated branding she got about dishonesty, Hillary did not lie to us. Laugh all you want but one of the reasons Hillary was always so careful and measured in what she said was the elegant prudence acquired from a lifetime of getting poo poo any time she misspoke. She learned never to write a check she couldn�t cash.
But no one wanted to hear that. They needed someone like Trump to be what he always has been � a grandiose bullshitter. Just tell them what they want to hear, make them believe in something and you�ll win. It doesn�t matter what it is, or how realistic it is. And it doesn�t matter if they hate you a year later, as the emo-progs did with Obama � just so long as you promise them poo poo. Lots and lots of free poo poo! Immigration poo poo. Jobs poo poo. Free college poo poo. Some of it is doable in like 20 years, some of it isn�t. But the run for president in the television/internet era has become a joke. Now we know for sure it has nothing to do with experience or knowledge or how well you can actually govern. It only has to make voters FEEL something right here, right now. �Entertain me! Make me enjoy the reality show I�m watching.�
And we really got to see a show, didn�t we. Trump was the freak the media needed: half tycoon, half buffoon. Bernie was the scrappy cantankerous underdog, taking down the mighty Hillary. Oh, how the press and the public became invested in watching her fall. It got so bad that her supporters had to shrink away in secret Facebook groups, afraid to put bumper stickers on our cars or lawn signs in front of our homes � afraid for our reputations, afraid to be exiled from Coolsville, afraid because we were watching a real live witch hunt. Now we�re all tuning in to watch the embers burn. It smells rotten.
The forces that elected Obama couldn�t protect him from the opposition he faced. They didn�t try. They just let him twist in the wind, their miracle worker who couldn�t work miracles. When are we going to stop making excuses for the voters who really must step up to the plate but don�t? They don�t vote and then they whine about the choices those who voted do make.
Now the show is over. Flat balloons lie scattered in corners, there�s some kind of sticky stuff on the floor, and all we can hear � in our heartbreak, in our despair, in our loneliness � is more white men yapping. They�re yapping on the left, they�re yapping on the right . Yap yap yap, as they did for an entire year.

All the journalists who very badly bungled their coverage of the election by chasing after salacious clickbait to keep their outlets alive in a time of intense competition, are now seeking to relieve themselves of the burden of guilt of having failed the American people. The book Shattered has quickly become their New Testament: see, it�s right there in chapter 3, verses 10�13, �And lo, though the press erred mightily in judgment, Lord knows they did nothing wrong. Because, hark! Hear the uproar unceasing from every network. Suspended like damnable turds in the firmament above were her eternal emails.� Yes, the journalists have written the first of many books to absolve themselves of their sins. �She was just a bad candidate. Her campaign was lovely. See, we were right all along. And we made lots and lots of money off of it. Witch hunts sell. Prepare for more.�
So I�m here to tell you Bernie Sanders supporters and Trump supporters and anyone else out there trying to finish the job you started on Hillary that we�re not going away. Many keep wondering why we are still defending Hillary Clinton. As poor conflicted Andrew Sullivan recently spat out, why do we �feel sorry� for her. The answer is simple: we love her. I�ll say it again � we love Hillary Clinton. Why? Because she stood up for all the things we believed were worth fighting for. Because she stood up to Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin and Bernie Sanders and the journalists and politicians who have been accusing her of all manner of corruption since the day she became Bill Clinton�s wife. And before that even.
Anyone who honestly researches Hillary will find that 90% of the accusations against her are flat out hysteria � mass hysteria. Like Goodie Proctor back in Salem-level hysteria. So why did she keep coming back, I wondered. Oh, Bill Maher and his band of brothers likely thought, �she�s just ambitious.� But it was more than that. She�s a fighter. She was never going to stop unless they found a way to stop her, and it�s our country�s greatest loss that she was stopped.
So I look at her and I see a hero. I look at her and see someone who took it and took it and took it and then took it some more. I also see someone who gave a speech on women�s rights as human rights, someone who had to swallow a lot of nonsense from arrogant pricks to try to pass universal healthcare back in the �90s. I see a woman who got out there anyway, despite our culture�s utter rejection of how she looks, what she wears, how she laughs. Most of us just want to zip it up and shut it down, but Hillary? She spent her life defying the built-in endgame for women.
And even now, when the power has been handed over 100% to the Republicans, when our democracy is threatened, our future, the environment and all living things on it � the attacks on Hillary can�t stop. Like an unhealthy domestic partnership, the reckless cruelties just keep coming and coming and coming. Enough. We saw her humiliated, dehumanized, criticized, ripped apart, and virtually burned at the stake, while the townspeople pointed and laughed, drooling all the while for the deliciousness of the take-down.
Hillary�s movement remains strong. No, some of our core principles are not ever going to be enough to woo the white working class males or the still whipped-up Sanders supporters. But there are millions of us out there who love Hillary and admire her and feel fired up and inspired because of her. I pity the candidate who dismisses us. You will never win. You will always lose. We outnumber you by tens of millions. We are loyal Democratic men and women of all ethnicities and backgrounds, the Obama coalition and the Hillary coalition have come together and we make up the ever-reliable base of the real Democratic Party. We�re ready to work, ready to be enthusiastic and we are so very done with your blame-slinging bullshit.
They said exactly the same thing in 1972, about the Democrats being out of touch with the people, only Richard Nixon said it and he was great at manipulating the narrative. Democrats are falling for every trick in the book right now, outsmarted every step of the way by the billionaires backing Trump. Buckling under this hysteria is a perfect example of that. It�s like the scene in Jaws where Quint has been eaten by the shark, and they have to go with Hooper�s dumb idea of getting in the shark cage (�You go in the cage, cage goes in the water, shark in the water. Our shark. Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies��)
What we�re doing now is trying to mirror Trump, to find OUR version of Trump, a populist, working-class hero. But we�ll bungle it like we did in �72, chasing an ideology that makes the most noise but doesn�t cover enough of the bases. But go ahead and fall for it. McGovern lost every state but Massachusetts. Maybe we can aim to beat that record.

You want Hillary, and now Chelsea, to go away? We don�t. We want to continue to listen to her and all Democrats who are there day in and day out working for the people not chasing the spotlight. We value her wisdom and her experience. Shame on the media for its treatment of her. Shame on the hard left for its dismissal of her, shame on the worst of America gathered in stadiums wearing t-shirts that said �Trump that bitch,� in a room full of men and women whose right arms were itching to stiffen to Sieg Heil! Whose dubious erections wriggled slightly every time they chanted, �Lock her up, lock her up,� joining an invisible hand with the Bernie supporters who chanted �She�s a liar, she�s a liar,� as though it was decided then and there. Mob rule.

You can take the people out of Salem but you can�t take Salem out of the people.
History will treat Hillary Clinton kindly despite all of that, and in ten years� time the only thing anyone will remember about this election was that it took a village � with torches and pitchforks � to bring down Hillary Clinton, the first woman who should have been president

Sebastien Lenorman fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 15:02

Gene Hackman Fan: Dec 27, 2002; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Maya Fey posted:

all that conspiracy theory stuff and nobody pointed out that hillary was sending us a secret message when she "collapsed" in "new york" due to the "heat" on "9/11"

Like I said, her figurative collapse was a literal inside job.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 15:08

firebeats: May 8, 2016

Sebastien Lenorman posted:

I really have to repost this for the new page because its just so, so good. I want to print it out and hang it on my wall. Its better than freeper tears:

where's the goddamn link

edit: nevermind
https://medium.com/@sashastone/tough-luck-destroyers-of-hillary-clinton-you-won-the-battle-you-wont-win-the-war-e4318c76f960

firebeats fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:11

paul_soccer10: Mar 28, 2016; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

DES TRO YER

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:23

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

She's so loving angry in the comments.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:28

new phone who dis: May 24, 2007; by VideoGames; Morbid Hound

I'm pretty sure losing the election means you lose the war.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:30

Creamed Cormp: Jan 8, 2011; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

I'm starting to believe the few die hard SS loyalists that fought to the end to defend the F�hrer's bunker were more objective about why they lost than hillary's people.

Yeah I'm capitalizing "F�hrer" but not "hillary", because at least he knew what to do when you lose that badly.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:42

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

The most die-hard Hillfolk I know of is a creepy autistic man that fetishizes the abstract concept of women and regards Clinton like an ersatz combination girlfriend-grandmother.

I will never understand her cult of personality.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 16:59

Sebastien Lenorman: Apr 12, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Jonas Albrecht posted:

She's so loving angry in the comments.

Shes simultaneously saying "Enough is enough of these MEN BROS talking about hillary, STOP IT" and "We cant wait for chelsea to run to hear more of the OLD DICKLESS WHITE MEN whining about it, bring it on"

pretty much: "Shut up and also i cant wait to argue with you more" Which one is it?

Really this post election season is even better than the post-Mccain/Palin one. I want a sequel to the fantastic mini-documentatry "Right wing america feeling wronged" based on hillary supporters.

Sebastien Lenorman fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:33

rezatahs: Jun 9, 2001; by Smythe

angry women are irrational and when you try to use logic against them they just get angrier and more irrational :biotruths:

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:35

Sebastien Lenorman: Apr 12, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

rezatahs posted:

angry women are irrational and when you try to use logic against them they just get angrier and more irrational

Now if the republicans dunk on them in 2018 and can start having constitutional conventions to ban everything they hold dear and LA or Sanfran gets nuked by koreans, i'll basically never stop ejaculating. :gizz:

Put that in your "You've won the battle but you wont win the war" and smoke it.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:37

Toadvine: Mar 16, 2009; Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Remember when sucker hillfolk got on Bernies rear end for not being a true devout democrat? then later told all of his angry supporters they need to suck it up or leave the party??

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:41

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Toadvine posted:

Remember when sucker hillfolk got on Bernies rear end for not being a true devout democrat? then later told all of his angry supporters they need to suck it up or leave the party??

They're still doing that. They're anti-bigot Republicans with branding issues.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:46

Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

"jews cant be president" is apparently a perfectly acceptable liberal talking point as well

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:48

Sebastien Lenorman: Apr 12, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

Also on her "Hillary gracefully lost and supported obama" point:

somewhere between 10 and 12 percent of Hillary supporters went Mccain (sources are inconsistant and might reflect some pre-election polling). Berniebros went for Trump 8%. Also, the earliest version of the idea that Barack Obama was foriegn and not-quite-american came from senior members of the hillary campaign.

Sebastien Lenorman fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:49

Toadvine: Mar 16, 2009; Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Accretionist posted:

They're still doing that. They're anti-bigot Republicans with branding issues.

I distinctly remember several posters and op-eds post-primary claiming emphatically that Hillary absolutely does not need Bernie supporters' votes to win

*arrested development Ron Howard narration*
She Did

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:54

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

This is still the best quote:

"For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."
- Chuck loving Schumer

# ? Apr 28, 2017 17:59

nigga crab pollock: Mar 26, 2010; by Lowtax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2zhTCcYEvw&t=41s

this show is 10 years old

# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:32

maskenfreiheit: Dec 30, 2004

Toadvine posted:

Remember when sucker hillfolk got on Bernies rear end for not being a true devout democrat? then later told all of his angry supporters they need to suck it up or leave the party??

this will end in hilarity when some of them do just that and gary johnson finally snags 5% and spends the entire presidential debate trolling them both and resisting the urge to remove all his clothes

# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:48

maskenfreiheit: Dec 30, 2004

#FEELTHEJOHNSON

# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:49

nigga crab pollock: Mar 26, 2010; by Lowtax

VikingSkull posted:

jet fuel can melt android skeletons!

gender fluid cant melt social constructs

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:02

CharlestonJew: Jul 7, 2011; Illegal Hen

Accretionist posted:

This is still the best quote:

"For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."
- Chuck loving Schumer

with tactical genius like that the only logical explanation for Trump's victory is interference from the Russians :argh:

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:01

rezatahs: Jun 9, 2001; by Smythe

the revival of "reds under muh bed!!!" by the democrats was really :discourse:

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:05

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

maskenfreiheit posted:

this will end in hilarity when some of them do just that and gary johnson finally snags 5% and spends the entire presidential debate trolling them both and resisting the urge to remove all his clothes

How do liberals look at poo poo like this and think anything other than "poo poo, our strategy was trash"?

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:12

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

Jonas Albrecht posted:

How do liberals look at poo poo like this and think anything other than "poo poo, our strategy was trash"?

sorry they're too busy thinking something about Voldemort right now

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:15

maskenfreiheit: Dec 30, 2004

once you realize the DNC sees voters as empty vessels, impressionable minds succeptable to whatever is placed in front of them, the allegations of "tampering" become clearer.

"Presenting facts counter to our narrative" (Ex: We rigged primary against Bernie and passed debate questions to Hillary) == "voter manipulation"

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:17

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

CharlestonJew posted:

with tactical genius like that the only logical explanation for Trump's victory is interference from the Russians

I also like how their take-away from losing Michigan to Bernie was that they campaigned there too much and they should avoid campaigning in the Rust Belt too much, too.

The Most Qualified Candidate Ever and her people were loving retards

And the party's still going to be full of people just like them in '18 and '20

Emigration, everybody. It's the only path forward. Be the Brain Drain.

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:19

nigga crab pollock: Mar 26, 2010; by Lowtax

maskenfreiheit posted:

once you realize the DNC sees voters as empty vessels, impressionable minds succeptable to whatever is placed in front of them, the allegations of "tampering" become clearer.

"Presenting facts counter to our narrative" (Ex: We rigged primary against Bernie and passed debate questions to Hillary) == "voter manipulation"

uh, the democratic party is the people's party. you're thinking of republicans. if they actually thought democrat voters were empty impressionable minds then you would see them trying to make television shows and movies about their political issues to try and passively indoctrinate people to their ideology. they wouldn't be fact checking the election if they were trying to get you to vote for their candidate :rolleyes:

# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:21

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Jonas Albrecht posted:

How do liberals look at poo poo like this and think anything other than "poo poo, our strategy was trash"?

hillary was the messiah of the bourgeois city people. accepting that she was flawed or imperfect is an indictment of their own beliefs and being. there will never be anyone else who so perfectly encapsulates their socioeconomic beliefs and aspirations, and if she failed because the country rejected her, then they too will fail.

maskenfreiheit posted:

once you realize the DNC sees voters as empty vessels, impressionable minds succeptable to whatever is placed in front of them, the allegations of "tampering" become clearer.

"Presenting facts counter to our narrative" (Ex: We rigged primary against Bernie and passed debate questions to Hillary) == "voter manipulation"

i thought it was more the other way around. dems see voters as already totally decided, so in order to win them you just have to shift which ever way popular sentiment is shifting and spending any time trying to convince people that your policies are actually good is a total waste. just put out today's most popular ideas and that will win. except people's minds are changed all the time and in politics, especially when things are bad, people are just begging to be swayed by someone with a plan to improve their lives. the passive shifting of the democrats cannot win against a party that spends inordinate resources constantly pushing their ideology rigorously. since the modern dems also have no interest in pushing leftist ideology they're forced to keep shifting right to siphon of the few who have been left behind by the natural growth of the republican ideology. the dems are reactive which will always result in chasing after crumbs which in turn turns off elements of their base. its a totally losing strategy, as demonstrated by their complete inability to win elections. their fall back plan, once again predicated on relying on pre-existing popular sentiment, is to shame those who won't vote for them anymore and hope that coalition is enough to barely out-weigh the republicans who are constantly trying to grow their party by pushing ideology and change people's beliefs.

or maybe i'm just full of poo poo. who knows :shrug:

RaySmuckles fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:06

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

RaySmuckles posted:

hillary was the messiah of the bourgeois city people. accepting that she was flawed or imperfect is an indictment of their own beliefs and being. there will never be anyone else who so perfectly encapsulates their socioeconomic beliefs and aspirations, and if she failed because the country rejected her, then they too will fail.

nah

she was just what happens when people with no actual identity mistake a marketing company's branding strategy for their own personal political ideals

it's the same reason they're so obsessed with the messaging in iPhone commercials and poo poo

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:09

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

like not even the city bougies can get pumped for "the Iraq War, but by Democrats" or "let Goldman Sachs cause a second great recession the exact same way again", they just found validation in the idea that the choice in mascot represents an effort from corporate to market to their demographic, and are the kind of people who consciously think and write things like that

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:18

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

nah

she was just what happens when people with no actual identity mistake a marketing company's branding strategy for their own personal political ideals

it's the same reason they're so obsessed with the messaging in iPhone commercials and poo poo

i don't know man. i didn't see this kind of desperate obsession and vitriol when kerry was bounced out. hillary was very much an identity candidate, in that a lot of people found that she represented their identities. she locked up bourgie white women in a mighty way, though first realistic female president will do that. plus she had society's establishment locked up because she is the embodiment of the modern political zeitgeist

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:19

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

like not even the city bougies can get pumped for "the Iraq War, but by Democrats" or "let Goldman Sachs cause a second great recession the exact same way again", they just found validation in the idea that the choice in mascot represents an effort from corporate to market to their demographic, and are the kind of people who consciously think and write things like that

i kinda see your point, but she did WELL in the major metropolitan areas, dominating the coasts.

those areas are less effected by wars because they don't send as many people to fight them as the poorer interior states

and those areas are the ones explicitly benefitting from companies like goldman or amazon. life is good for the professional classes and they've totally bought in to the modern laissez-faire capitalism that she promised to continue

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:24

A Wizard of Goatse: Dec 14, 2014

tbc I'm talking about the cultists super loving obsessed with Clinton and to this day yelling about Bernie bros and writing Harry Potter-reference-laden screeds about how she didn't fail, America failed her; not people who voted for her generally, who did so for all sorts of reasons (in the vast majority of cases, because they vote for the Democrat in every election regardless of who it is or what they say). The former tend to entirely ignore her actual policies, good or bad, and are real hazy about what they liked that she did while in power beyond that she was "qualified"

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Apr 28, 2017

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:28

nigga crab pollock: Mar 26, 2010; by Lowtax

also it doesn't help that a significant portion of the media that those people consume are produced by the same companies and they were being spoon fed very transparent propaganda

"Why You Should Be Afraid Of Falling Victim To Conspiracy Theories - It's not just Trump supporters at risk"

like it was either hillary or the ultimate republican boogeyman. of course they went to hilldawg

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:31

sofokles: Feb 7, 2004; Fuck this

another book I'll never reed.

makes me sad

all the books i dont reed

so much knowledge and wizdom amiss

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:35

Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

sofokles posted:

another book I'll never reed.

makes me sad

all the books i dont reed

so much knowledge and wizdom amiss

good news! all the good bits are available in twitter screenshot form, which is somehow more tedious to go through than reading the book

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:35

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# ? May 10, 2024 19:13

VikingSkull: Jan 23, 2017; Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

nah

she was just what happens when people with no actual identity mistake a marketing company's branding strategy for their own personal political ideals

it's the same reason they're so obsessed with the messaging in iPhone commercials and poo poo

the converse is also true, when corporations try to shoehorn in political statements

see Pepsi stopping riots and Budweiser creating a false history of their founding

# ? Apr 28, 2017 20:38

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