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a neat cape posted:Trading up for a qb has a long storied history of working out
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Eli Wiggum posted:I feel like I have to reiterate that Trubisky only worked out for the Bears once and they never communicated with him until right before they drafted him. Add in the fact that John Fox hates rookie QBs and you have someone who is set up for failure. 1. Workouts are a bit overrated. You can only learn so much from having a dude in shorts or in pads throwing against air. They met with him and talked with him at the combine and after the combine nothing matters. It's all just people losing their mind over analyzing things(outside of situations where someone like kills someone in that time frame) Game tape of a QB making the throws, going through progressions, and dealing with pressure >>> scripted practiced routines. 2. That's a feature not a bug. Pace had John Fox pretty much forced onto him by Ernie Accorsi and the McCaskeys who wanted a more coachy coach after the trashfire that was Marc Trestman. I think Pace has more of a leash than John Fox, and a young QB only empowers pace more. Think about what happened to Lovie as a defensive coach who got backstabbed by the GM he hired and an OC when they drafted a QB.
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Dexo posted:Yes. Yeah, that makes sense. Pace did have a pretty good draft last year so this probably is more about Fox shitcanned next season because lol @ the idea of Fox developing young QBs.
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Dexo posted:The Bears weren't worried about the Niners. They were worried about other teams looking for QB's trading up for him.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:17 |
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The Chiefs trade was less funny but still funny
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:18 |
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Dude it's okay your team made a bad trade. It's cool my team once let Mike Ditka trade all his picks to move up a few spots to get Ricky Williams
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:22 |
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Eli Wiggum posted:I feel like I have to reiterate that Trubisky only worked out for the Bears once and they never communicated with him until right before they drafted him. Add in the fact that John Fox hates rookie QBs and you have someone who is set up for failure. How many teams had multiple one-on-one workouts with their first round draft picks this year?
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DariusLikewise posted:How many teams had multiple one-on-one workouts with their first round draft picks this year? The Packers didn't, so the Bears are clearly emulating success
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:25 |
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Christ, twice in one offseason
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:24 |
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Lets assume that's true(Reports are dumb and often made up, as the Bears were linked to Solomon Thomas immediately after trading up, they were linked to Deshaun Watson, people were saying they were trading back like 2 minutes before the news of them trading up happened) I still don't care. The process is the process. People get bluffed in poker all the time. Good for the Niners to bluff and get those 3 extra lottery tickets out of the Bears. If Pace thinks Mitch Trubisky can be a top flight starter, then the 3 picks they gave up is more than likely miniscule compared to the value of having that QB. Do you think the Eagles give a gently caress about what they traded to get Wentz? It's on the GM to put a team around him now. And Maybe he regresses and sucks from here on out, but fortune favors the bold rather than hoping some QB falls to you. and when it doesn't saying aww shucks guess we are still not gonna have a future at the position. Maybe next time. The Rams care, but only because Goff is trash.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:28 |
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Dexo posted:The Rams care, but only because Goff is trash. "Don't judge a player before they play!" *Player plays half a season* "What loving trash!"
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:31 |
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Dexo posted:but fortune favors the bold *looks at last 40 years of teams trading up for QBs* hmmm not so sure about that one
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:31 |
Jared Goff is much, much better than Tribisky. Like a lot better
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:31 |
Also lol @ lottery tickets
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:32 |
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Also lol @ lottery tickets I like how even in this metaphor, he's arguing that it's good to have fewer lottery tickets because the one you have might win
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:34 |
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Dexo posted:Lets assume that's true(Reports are dumb and often made up, as the Bears were linked to Solomon Thomas immediately after trading up, they were linked to Deshaun Watson, people were saying they were trading back like 2 minutes before the news of them trading up happened) How does fortune favor the bold when it's worked out once in two decades
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:34 |
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Little early to have Stockholm syndrome about a bad trade and bad pick
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:37 |
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https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/status/858012213583294464 Another bad season coming for Rogers
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:37 |
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a neat cape posted:How does fortune favor the bold when it's worked out once in two decades it has to have worked out more often than that, right? right?????
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:38 |
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mastershakeman posted:it has to have worked out more often than that, right? it depends on how you think Vick "worked out"
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:39 |
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If a draft pick is a lottery ticket it would make sense to get as many of them as possible and use every one of them on a quarterback.
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Winkie01 posted:https://twitter.com/TMZ_Sports/status/858012213583294464 Will he be able to touch her or will the hoverhanding intensify?
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:39 |
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While I can appreciate the emotional appeal of "well, it may have been stupid and rash, at least it was different, and we need a change" it feels like a look around at our current political situation would provide a strong counter argument.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:40 |
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mastershakeman posted:it has to have worked out more often than that, right?
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:39 |
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mastershakeman posted:it has to have worked out more often than that, right? Eli. Vick maybe
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:41 |
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a neat cape posted:The Chiefs trade was less funny but still funny Disagree. Not sure what you think it takes to move up 17 spots?
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:43 |
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kiimo posted:Disagree. Not sure what you think it takes to move up 17 spots? Trading that far for mahomes is funny
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:46 |
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Diva Cupcake posted:Eli and Flacco is two. I don't know if I'd include Flacco in there; the Ravens traded down from 8th, then back up from 26th to get Flacco 18th that year. They could have had him with their original pick
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:46 |
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a neat cape posted:Trading
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:45 |
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Dexo posted:Lets assume that's true(Reports are dumb and often made up, as the Bears were linked to Solomon Thomas immediately after trading up, they were linked to Deshaun Watson, people were saying they were trading back like 2 minutes before the news of them trading up happened) Its true, if the HC and FO are on the same page on the QB of the future and this was well thought out and thoroughly deliberated and not spur of the moment, its a good tr-- http://twitter.com/SeifertESPN/status/858012438117142528
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:47 |
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^ haha Fox is so hosed https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/858010506736619521
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:50 |
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Spoeank posted:Its true, if the HC and FO are on the same page on the QB of the future and this was well thought out and thoroughly deliberated and not spur of the moment, its a good tr-- All that does is answer the question people have been asking around here for a while now. Who is actually in control up at Halas Hall, as it's been questioned if a Young GM in Pace could actually make his own decisions without having to run it by Fox's old rear end.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:50 |
At least the Chiefs have a chance to become the mid 90s packers
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:51 |
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weird Asian candy posted:^ haha Fox is so hosed I thought we had a deal! You seen this FaceApp? Female Jimmy looks like Cobie Smulders that's gotta be worth another third.
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:56 |
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Hue baby come on we got all the QB you could ever need
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 18:59 |
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https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/857974454273572864
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:19 |
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lol
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# ? Apr 28, 2017 19:18 |
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Imagine what the new look browns would have gotten out of them.
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weird Asian candy posted:^ haha Fox is so hosed Wonder what they offered.
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