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Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Kellanved posted:

Even with our current "gaming journalism", I'm surprised there's no coverage on this crap.

Have you missed all the Kotaku, eurogamer and PC gamer articles?

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thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

GreenElephant posted:

Huh, did that text always specifically mention "schedule announcements"? Guess I won't be refunding my shirt anytime soon


That's just the new TURBO TITANIUMCLAD TOS 2.0.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Since these are tangible goods and they are charging to facilitate the shipment of the goods, and the Button says "Order and Pay" (not Submit Pledge), they would be hard-pressed to stay on the right side of the provisions of the Mail Order Act.

Which in says that they have to deliver in the promised timeframe.
If they can't estimate a timeframe, they have to clearly explain why they can't estimate when this item they are selling will ship.
If no timeframe is stated, a 30-default is assumed.
If they miss (or believe they will), they have to proactively give the consumer the choice to accept the new timeframe. A non-response from the customer is interpreted as non-acceptance.
Which triggers an automatic, expeditious refund of funds remitted in the form it was remitted.

Just something to remember when the first wave of sweatshop crap comes drifting in 6 weeks from now, drop-shipped from Guangzhou via China Post with declared value of $1.

This would be a good test case - submit a complaint to the FTC to settle the Pledge or Purchase debate once and for all once they screw up.

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
Bunch of poo poo got moved 2-4 weeks back

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=9CBA26B9B59370EB!291&ithint=file%2cxlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!ANasV_mKsXvYk-k

7 days go by, about a day of dev happens.

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

XK posted:

One of us. One of us. Come on MinorIncovenience, you're so close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yCmZHILkm8

Oh, baby. I'm here. One of us, motherfucker. One of us.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Are they doing this secretively? Like hoping nobody will notice? :lol:

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Is this some sort of official tracker?

TrustmeImLegit
Jan 14, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
^^A couple citizens do it. Its not official. CIG probably hates this.

Also everything beyond 3.2 has been removed from the schedule.

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Tank Boy Ken posted:

This proves you're a lawyer. Nice Self-dox Just joking

I admitted earlier that I'm just a Starbucks barista who makes Unicorn Frappuccinos for rear end in a top hat lawyers. Keep up with the thread, man.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Golli posted:

Since Amazon and CIG are partnered, someone should ask why CIG is doing the exact opposite of Amazon Prime for their merch sales.

Can any space lawyers opine on whether this rises to the level of an FTC complaint? Sort of like even payday loans have usury laws they have to abide by?

If you want a refund, it definitely rises to the level of an FTC complaint. It's also a DCBA complaint, and an Attorney General of CA complaint, and an Attorney General of LA County complaint.

Attorney General of LA:
http://da.co.la.ca.us/contact/forms

Choose consumer fraud.

CA Attorney General, State of California Department of Justice:
https://oag.ca.gov/contact/consumer-complaint-against-business-or-company

Department of Consumer and Business Affairs, Los Angeles County:
https://iddweb.isd.lacounty.gov/dca_ecomplaint/

File a consumer complaint.

Federal Trade Commission:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov

Pick other under any category.

Also contact any local county, state, or federal agency relevant to you.

Just citing the full list of agencies to complain to, since they haven't been posted out in this thread for a while.

XK fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Apr 29, 2017

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



I wonder if they are collecting CA and TX sales tax for these physical items sold in jurisdictions that they have a physical nexus?

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Can we safely reset the CIG number of days since last fuckup counter?

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Can we safely reset the CIG number of days since last fuckup counter?

I vote an enthusiastic yes, for what it's worth. The Crobert's missive and sale are gently caress ups by any sane measure.

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

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DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.

MinorInconvenience posted:

I vote an enthusiastic yes, for what it's worth. The Crobert's missive and sale are gently caress ups by any sane measure.

Yep counter back to 0

I'm just sad they happened on the same day. gently caress, CIG, spread this out. You've got 2 months before the bitter winds of the 3.0 delay happens.

Tha_Joker_GAmer
Aug 16, 2006
mirificus is the best poster in this thread

DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.

Woah woah woah. I detect negativity in this comment!! A 7:1 ratio seems like solid improvement for CIG. And only 2 bed shittings this week. Progress, Commandos!! :gary:

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Wise Learned Man posted:

Holy poo poo, that C-Robbz letter.

  • We're totally holding up our end of the bargain, what with all of the, uh, *nothing* you have there.
  • It's your fault the game isn't done, because you kept falling for our lies and deceptive marketing.
  • We're really special. And totally great at our jobs. Innovative, even.
  • If you're satified that you have contributed enough to please us, then fine. Don't give us any more.
  • But seriously, give us more.

They have to be actively loving with people now, right? Like there's no possible way this statement and this picture were put together unironically:

e: I just got to the part where he seriously quotes loving JFK. This is ridiculous. :psypop:

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Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Apr 29, 2017

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Liu posted:

mirificus is the best poster in this thread

He's got a sole shtick, but goddamn if it isn't a great one.

DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.

Beet Wagon posted:

They have to be actively loving with people now, right? Like there's no possible way this statement and this picture were put together unironically:



Fidelity man! Most planets probably look like this and Chris knows it. He genius is only surpassed by his adorable thumb-like appearance.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

MinorInconvenience posted:

Is this some sort of official tracker?

This is our tracker. That one is just the schedule of dreams

https://starcitizentracker.github.io/

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

DarkRefreshment posted:

Yep counter back to 0

I'm just sad they happened on the same day. gently caress, CIG, spread this out. You've got 2 months before the bitter winds of the 3.0 delay happens.

Problem is CIG's screwups are like a morphine drip. It will wear off, we keep hitting the button faster to get the next dose and by Tuesday we will be turning on ourselves because no more supply.

Sadly, we've turned into disaster locusts.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Colostomy Bag posted:

Problem is CIG's screwups are like a morphine drip. It will wear off, we keep hitting the button faster to get the next dose and by Tuesday we will be turning on ourselves because no more supply.

Sadly, we've turned into disaster locusts.

:perfect:

Amazing Zimmo
Jan 27, 2006

That's quite a load you got in them diapers

Hav posted:



Limited items, too. Seriously, this is some top notch marketing. Scummy as all hell, but you have scarcity, extra fees...

So apparently you can't buy a cap with anything else. You can't buy a shirt with anything else. Truly ruthless.

They can't even work out delta patching for shipping and handling. You have to chew up the same amount of wallet bandwidth every time for the same loving thing.

:negative:

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Amazing Zimmo posted:

They can't even work out delta patching for shipping and handling. You have to chew up the same amount of wallet bandwidth every time for the same loving thing.

:negative:

A scam as old as time....

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

MinorInconvenience posted:

You know, about a month ago I went on a drunken rant on this forum begging backers to get out of this thing and get refunds. I felt sorry for them. I really did. Having seen the little guy get hosed over by corporations many times in the past, I didn't particularly want to see it again.. But you know, at a certain point it's a question of personal responsibility.

Having paid too much attention to this poo poo in the last couple of months, I gotta say, any remaining backers deserve EVERY-loving-THING that happens to them now. No reasonably functional adult human can read Crobert's last missive and watch this merchandise sale and not think, hmm... this just ain't right.

So all you backers out there (yes, you too MoMA), enjoy losing your money you stupid loving tools. I will just sit back and laugh at your stupidity. Just like those Fyre Festival assholes. Peace out!

Later Brandon.

DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Problem is CIG's screwups are like a morphine drip. It will wear off, we keep hitting the button faster to get the next dose and by Tuesday we will be turning on ourselves because no more supply.

Sadly, we've turned into disaster locusts.

Oh no... it's true. Instead of the usual turn of cat pictures, food recipes, fashion advice, or VR discussions we descended on poor rich people today and brutalized their plight against poordom.

I feel shame. :shepicide:

Derek needs to write a serious blog and piss all over Chris's letter so he gets all Escapist article again on us next week. Can we plan fuckups like that?

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Colostomy Bag posted:

Ben can't say when
Again with 'Ben is fat' jokes?

DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.


I thought Beet and I were racing to the down vote hell of :reddit: by posting in that merch thread. Either you goons are up voting with force or they are starting to sort their lives out over there.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Hav posted:

It's a Friday. I'm relentlessly optimistic on a Friday. They may release something technically described as a 'game'.


Only YOU can fund this game to play the way YOU want it to. Remember, YOU have to believe, and it's ONLY YOU that can save the BDSSwhatever.

Except YOU have given us so much money we have lost all sense of scale and we need to spew out the most ambitious (read: roadmap and project management free) project EVER! So, where's the cash?

(And the doughnuts? Ben's blood sugar is low and I don't like the way he is looking at me...)

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

SelenicMartian posted:

Again with 'Ben is fat' jokes?

They are the backbone of this thread, have respect for them.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

It's not a joke, he's really fat.

taxxe: here is a fat cat I googled your welcome

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

What is fatter than Ben ? Ben tomorrow.

DarkRefreshment
May 5, 2015

Nothing is funnier than a dog in a formal outfit. Look it up on the internets.

Zzr posted:

They are the backbone of this thread, have respect for them.

Much like the respect for Ben's backbone holding up all that front load. :lesnick:

Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler
Oh boy that store thing. Doesn't scream desperate for fresh cash at all.

MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Lladre posted:

Later Brandon.

Sorry. Don't get the reference. I sure it was funny to some other assholes.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=x0WB1I2wq2w

MinorInconvenience fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Apr 29, 2017

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Colostomy Bag posted:

Problem is CIG's screwups are like a morphine drip. It will wear off, we keep hitting the button faster to get the next dose and by Tuesday we will be turning on ourselves because no more supply.

Sadly, we've turned into disaster locusts.

If they hadn't given us such a rich, full, delicious diet of failure to this point, we wouldn't have gotten used to it.

We wouldn't need it.

We wouldn't crave it.

For the threadGoons, CIG failure is like oxygen. Every second of every day, or we feel our chests burning in an inescapable craving, so we try to blunt the agonizing pain by turning on each other.

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Is this thread no longer about the Fyre Festival?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

I think we've learned whenever crobberts pens a letter it's either to soften the blow of more bad news , or to prepare backers for future missed promises

Can't wait for 3.0

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MinorInconvenience
Feb 24, 2017

Criminal lawyer or criminal, lawyer. Yeah. No difference.

Golli posted:

Is this thread no longer about the Fyre Festival?

It's Schrödinger's thread. It's about both and neither at the same time.

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