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Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben

Oh, man, nobody's said Baten Kaitos yet. Get Baten Kaitos if a beautiful JRPG with CCG mechanics and a prog metal soundtrack sounds like it would be up your alley.

They drastically changed the battle system for Baten Kaitos Origins and I didn't like it nearly as much.

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Ikaruga is also pretty solid if you like shmups.

Only Shallow
Nov 12, 2005

show

Kid Fenris posted:

How sad that the Sega Saturn didn't establish an industry norm of controllers with six face-mounted action buttons.

Microsoft tried but we all gave them poo poo for it

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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Only Shallow posted:

Microsoft tried but we all gave them poo poo for it


Everyone that complained about this controller must have tiny hands because it feels great.

Also the Saturn controller is basically an evolution of Genesis 6 button so let's credit that instead.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

falz posted:

Everyone that complained about this controller must have tiny hands because it feels great.

Also the Saturn controller is basically an evolution of Genesis 6 button so let's credit that instead.

Yeah but whereas the Genesis 6 button feels kind of awkward, the Saturn 6 button feels at home & natural + has shoulder buttons. The Genesis was like a concept car and the Saturn embraced the concept.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
How hard is it to mod a ps2? Always wanted to play some imports on it

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Empress Brosephine posted:

How hard is it to mod a ps2? Always wanted to play some imports on it

I used to have a modded PS2 that was one soldered wire inside and a USB dongle.

It's been long enough that I can't remember if it would play imports or just copies, though. I know I had some copied import PSX games that would run on it, but they may have been edited to change the region.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

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So somehow this manual has all of its pages stuck together, more than just water damage, like someone spooged all over it or something. It's already pretty hosed up so I said gently caress it and steamed it. A few pages open up now but still another handful are stuck together. Any magic tricks to unglue/unspooge paper pages?



Monitor Burn
Nov 29, 2001
No clever to be found here

Only Shallow posted:

Microsoft tried but we all gave them poo poo for it



It probably would have helped if they were full-sized face buttons instead of black and white tic-tacs

falz posted:

So somehow this manual has all of its pages stuck together, more than just water damage, like someone spooged all over it or something. It's already pretty hosed up so I said gently caress it and steamed it. A few pages open up now but still another handful are stuck together. Any magic tricks to unglue/unspooge paper pages?





:stonk:

Monitor Burn fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 29, 2017

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Empress Brosephine posted:

How hard is it to mod a ps2? Always wanted to play some imports on it

The easy solution is get a network adapter, plug a hard drive into it (using a special adapter or otherwise), and then plug a memory card in with the softmod program. Then you can install all the import games you like onto the hard drive and play them.

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Huh sounds simple I'll check that out

Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

falz posted:

So somehow this manual has all of its pages stuck together, more than just water damage, like someone spooged all over it or something. It's already pretty hosed up so I said gently caress it and steamed it. A few pages open up now but still another handful are stuck together. Any magic tricks to unglue/unspooge paper pages?





Throw it away

Also only kinda retro:
My Mario Kart 8 Deluxe shipment was delayed, so I played regular Mario Kart 8 instead and I used the club nintendo snes style wii classic controller. Holy crap that works well.

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

falz posted:

So somehow this manual has all of its pages stuck together, more than just water damage, like someone spooged all over it or something. It's already pretty hosed up so I said gently caress it and steamed it. A few pages open up now but still another handful are stuck together. Any magic tricks to unglue/unspooge paper pages?





Let it go my son

Kid Fenris
Jan 22, 2004

If someone is reading this...
I must have failed.
Don't give up on Alisia Dragoon! You have to read that manual to learn about her motivation!

Well, OK, the bad guys killed her father. That's pretty much it.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy
I did something dumb. I was at a flea market, walked by a big old box of nes/snes game boxes and an nes box. Like three minutes later I decided I regretted it, but someone scooped it up. I know there are some goons in the area (phoenixville pa) so I hope one of you got it at least.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Wasn't me. :(

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.

Discount Viscount posted:

Mega Man X Collection

Shoot is the A button.
SHOOT IS THE loving A BUTTON :psyduck:
No, you can't remap it.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

Ofecks posted:

Shoot is the A button.
SHOOT IS THE loving A BUTTON :psyduck:
No, you can't remap it.
No, that was Anniversary Collection. X Collection lets you remap the buttons.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
I popped MMX2 into the ole SNES yesterday and got halfway through the game before I even considered stopping. Man I love those games. Dash-jumping just feels so good.

I AM THE TOILET
Jul 11, 2016

Caitlin posted:

FPS on controllers is a crime tbh.

I play Overwatch with a controller on PC because lmao gently caress everything.

Dr. Dos
Aug 5, 2005

YAAAAAAAY!
Yard sale season is off to a good start.

Only registered members can see post attachments!

I AM THE TOILET
Jul 11, 2016
I hope the HD remake coming up on PS4 is good. :ohdear:

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

Shadow Hog posted:

No, that was Anniversary Collection. X Collection lets you remap the buttons.

Specifically, the X games always allowed you to remap the buttons ,and those options menus are left intact. I still don't know how I put up with the default of Dash being A back on SNES until one day I decided to put it on the L button.

The Anniversary Collection's decision to swap jump and shoot was baffling and I beat my head against it for a few days before it finally clicked. Now it's hard to go back and I actually remap shoot to A in the X collection. hosed up, I know. I can still play them the normal way on other controllers.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
I don't understand why you'd want to torture yourself playing 2D games on a GameCube controller even with the buttons mapped properly. It's the only Nintendo controller I can think of with a lovely d-pad too.

Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Apr 30, 2017

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Also don't play the X collection on the Gamecube because it's like 4 times the price of the other versions, or buying the games on the Wii VC.

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro
So what's the best video quality I can get out of an Atari Jaguar without modding it?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Panic Restaurant posted:

So what's the best video quality I can get out of an Atari Jaguar without modding it?

Step 1: find a dumpster.

Kthulhu5000
Jul 25, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Panic Restaurant posted:

So what's the best video quality I can get out of an Atari Jaguar without modding it?

That big and exposed edge connector in the back of the console is actually an AV port. Going by the pinout below and a quick search on video cables for the Jaguar, you can potentially get composite, S-Video, and RGB out of it natively. Ebay appears to have the former (though their quality is unknown), and Retrogamingcables.co.uk appears to have a few versions of an RGB SCART cable for it.

http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/jagav.htm
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=jaguar

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Random Stranger posted:

Step 1: find a dumpster.

You shut your mouth

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro

Random Stranger posted:

Step 1: find a dumpster.

Knew that was coming. :v: I have a soft spot for the thing, everything about it is just so lovably inept.

Kthulhu5000 posted:

That big and exposed edge connector in the back of the console is actually an AV port. Going by the pinout below and a quick search on video cables for the Jaguar, you can potentially get composite, S-Video, and RGB out of it natively. Ebay appears to have the former (though their quality is unknown), and Retrogamingcables.co.uk appears to have a few versions of an RGB SCART cable for it.

http://www.gamesx.com/avpinouts/jagav.htm
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=jaguar

Thanks for the rundown! I'm gonna out myself as a simpleton here, but the RGB stuff confuses the hell out of me. Right now I'm using an HDTV for everything, so I don't know if that's even a relevant option for me anyway.

The majority of my stuff is hooked up via composite, but I know someone linked a good S-video to HDMI converter earlier in the thread. So I might try taking the plunge on that.

Kthulhu5000
Jul 25, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Panic Restaurant posted:

Knew that was coming. :v: I have a soft spot for the thing, everything about it is just so lovably inept.


Thanks for the rundown! I'm gonna out myself as a simpleton here, but the RGB stuff confuses the hell out of me. Right now I'm using an HDTV for everything, so I don't know if that's even a relevant option for me anyway.

The majority of my stuff is hooked up via composite, but I know someone linked a good S-video to HDMI converter earlier in the thread. So I might try taking the plunge on that.

Composite video would probably be your best quality "plug it in and go" input format, since most HDTVs still support it. Otherwise, you are correct that you would be needing to convert your S-Video signal, since most new TVs omit to include input support for it these days.

The RGB I'm talking about isn't the same as the red/green/blue plugs you might see on your TV (which are component/YPbPr plugs and a slightly different video format). It's basically the purest video signal that old consoles output and thus the highest quality, but it's not "plug and play" on an HDTV or on most consumer grade standard-definition TVs sold in Japan and North America. You can generally adapt RGB into HDMI with a scaler, though how well the conversion works in terms of quality and lag can vary depending on the scaler.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Discount Viscount posted:

Specifically, the X games always allowed you to remap the buttons ,and those options menus are left intact. I still don't know how I put up with the default of Dash being A back on SNES until one day I decided to put it on the L button.

The Anniversary Collection's decision to swap jump and shoot was baffling and I beat my head against it for a few days before it finally clicked. Now it's hard to go back and I actually remap shoot to A in the X collection. hosed up, I know. I can still play them the normal way on other controllers.

My first Mega Man X game was X1 on DOS in 1996. My options to play were with the keyboard or a Microsoft Sidewinder I got that same Christmas. Fire was spacebar, jump was Alt, and dash was Ctrl. When I tried to dash jump, I'd frequently minimize the window and go back to Windows. I never changed the controls because I was nine and content.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rollersnake posted:

I don't understand why you'd want to torture yourself playing 2D games on a GameCube controller even with the buttons mapped properly. It's the only Nintendo controller I can think of with a lovely d-pad too.

I have owned a GameCube since launch and I honestly don't remember ever touching the D-Pad. :psyduck:

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!

Elliotw2 posted:

Also don't play the X collection on the Gamecube because it's like 4 times the price of the other versions, or buying the games on the Wii VC.

I got it when it was new/cheap. The PS2 version is indeed much cheaper because they did more than one run of it, and it's fine but some of the sound effects are a little off IIRC from the one time I played it. In general the Gamecube versions of game collections are a bit better/more accurate than their PS2 counterparts, though apparently it's the reverse case with Midway Arcade Treasures 2.

But if you only want to play X and X2, which 95% of people probably do, get the VC versions, definitely, any of the 3. They're cheaper and more accurate. If you want Mega Man Battle & Chase, though...:iiaca:

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Panic Restaurant posted:

Thanks for the rundown! I'm gonna out myself as a simpleton here, but the RGB stuff confuses the hell out of me. Right now I'm using an HDTV for everything, so I don't know if that's even a relevant option for me anyway.

The majority of my stuff is hooked up via composite, but I know someone linked a good S-video to HDMI converter earlier in the thread. So I might try taking the plunge on that.

Composite is awful :(

North American TVs don't have SCART or RGB, so your options for the most part involve an upscaler regardless. Some TVs take S-video and/or component, which are way better than composite, but others don't take them natively and would require a scaler too.

The way to go if you can afford it is definitely the XRGB Mini Framemeister scaler, which is just the best there is by a mile and everybody in this thread will tell you so. Get one and you can plug every console into it and then feed them all from that to any HDTV through normal HDMI. It really is *the* solution. It'll accept s-video or RGB or whatever you've got, and then output perfect HDMI. And it has options for all kinds of fancy effects and scanlines and stuff if you like those things.

However, They cost $400+. So if you can't swing that, the cheap $40 scaler I linked before will do the job if you can get an s-video cable, and s-video looks much better than composite. There are some issues with the cheap scalers though, lots of people on amazon post that they got a bad unit and had to RMA it, and I myself went through a few brands that had horrible white smearing before I found that one that worked for me. But if you can't afford a framemeister, that's generally the way to go. Just want to really warn you going in, your mileage may vary with these things. Seems like pretty cheap components.

All that said, if your TV does have the component video inputs (red, green, blue sockets; NOT RGB but YPbPr, which is what we get in NA) then that's basically as good as RGB and would let you skip buying an upscaler completely. But you gotta have a console that can do it, and the right cables.

My PS2 is hooked up directly to my TV through component and it looks fantastic. My SNES and N64 go through S-video to the upscaler, and come out looking very good, but there is a little bit of interference that wouldn't be there if I had a Framemeister.

I'm currently forced to hook up my NES through composite and so its going to be the next thing I look into improving, because man composite sucks.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Mostly if you have an hdtv that does take svideo it probably has a complete garbage scaler that will make the svideo signal look like rear end anyway.

If you want to keep it simple your best bet is console S-video->amazon hdmi scaler->hdmi->your tv.

The amazon scaler is at least designed with that job in mind. Standard def support on modern HDTV sets is an afterthought and done as cheaply (read: ugly and laggy) as possible.

For instance on my old Samsung DLP tv, switching from the svideo input on the TV to the amazon svideo scaler out to hdmi on the same tv cut nearly 100ms of lag.

Unless your HDTV cost 5 figures or is a professional broadcast grade unit, assume the internal scaler is junk.

Discount Viscount
Jul 9, 2010

FIND THE FISH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtQdIYUtAHg

Experimental 8-bit music from very short C programs.

Gorgolflox
Apr 2, 2009

Gun Saliva

falz posted:

So somehow this manual has all of its pages stuck together, more than just water damage, like someone spooged all over it or something. It's already pretty hosed up so I said gently caress it and steamed it. A few pages open up now but still another handful are stuck together. Any magic tricks to unglue/unspooge paper pages?





Wait, what? Is there a way to fix water damaged booklets? My small collection of CIB Saturn/Sega CD games got damaged in a flood a few years ago and I've stubbornly held on to them. Been thinking about replacing or just getting rid of some of them but Dragon Force is pretty expensive so if I could repair the booklet that'd be swell

oh dear some of these games went up in price, Mystaria, D, and, Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2 are a little higher than I thought :(


why is Virtual Hydlide going for $40+???

Kramdar
Jun 21, 2005

Radmark says....Worship Kramdar

Gorgolflox posted:

Wait, what? Is there a way to fix water damaged booklets? My small collection of CIB Saturn/Sega CD games got damaged in a flood a few years ago and I've stubbornly held on to them. Been thinking about replacing or just getting rid of some of them but Dragon Force is pretty expensive so if I could repair the booklet that'd be swell

Stop it. Please. What's done is done. Water ruins everything.

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Wayne Knight
May 11, 2006

Rollersnake posted:

I don't understand why you'd want to torture yourself playing 2D games on a GameCube controller even with the buttons mapped properly. It's the only Nintendo controller I can think of with a lovely d-pad too.

Unless you have one of these.

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