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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it has a bunch of innovative technology, drives well, meets commuter needs, and is relatively affordable Sounds like Prius sold in less volume. Not really sure what the volt competes with.
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The Sicilian posted:Sounds like Prius sold in less volume. Sounds like you need to read the previous 157 pages of this thread.
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Apr 29, 2017 01:30
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The Volt competes with ICE cars under $50,000. By which I mean most of them.
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Apr 29, 2017 02:04
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IMO the Volt is too expensive, is ugly, has a poor quality interior, and basically put all its eggs in the Range Basket. The Ioniq looks like a much more cohesive vehicle at a much lower price. I'm sure there will be more solid choices like it 5 years from now.
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Apr 29, 2017 03:29
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I like the look of the Volt  which is a good thing, 'cos I'm leasing one tomorrow if things go okay at the dealer!
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Apr 29, 2017 03:50
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Ciaphas posted:I like the look of the Volt What a lucky coincidence!
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FistEnergy posted:IMO the Volt is too expensive, is ugly, has a poor quality interior, and basically put all its eggs in the Range Basket.
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Apr 29, 2017 10:22
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The looks don't bother me although the concept was obviously much better looking, but the range means that for several years it was the only electric/hybrid option that would get me to work and back, since charging is not an option and will not be an option for the foreseeable future. Except maybe the Prius with the bigger battery, I don't remember when that became available but frankly the Prius is at Pontiac Aztec levels of ugliness.
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Apr 29, 2017 18:17
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The anti gm/volt consortium is just myopic and dumb. There is a zero percent chance I'd drive anything electric aside from the Volt right now. People mock the 350 mile road trips, but it's a fact of life that door to door, that's how far from my folks I am. It's 90%+ at 75mph to boot, and I only take one 20min stop on the way. I don't want to stop more, I don't want to stop longer, I've seen every nook and cranny on the way to and from, and I just want to get the trip done. Aside from that I'm all electric, and it's great. The $12k used volt fits a real segment that would be completely unreached otherwise.
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Apr 29, 2017 18:34
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Godholio posted:...but frankly the Prius is at Pontiac Aztec levels of ugliness. I don't know what the gently caress happened inside Toyota, but their new models across the entire line are gently caress-ugly.
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Apr 29, 2017 18:42
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blugu64 posted:The anti gm/volt consortium is just myopic and dumb. There is a zero percent chance I'd drive anything electric aside from the Volt right now. People mock the 350 mile road trips, but it's a fact of life that door to door, that's how far from my folks I am. It's 90%+ at 75mph to boot, and I only take one 20min stop on the way. I don't want to stop more, I don't want to stop longer, I've seen every nook and cranny on the way to and from, and I just want to get the trip done. Aside from that I'm all electric, and it's great. The $12k used volt fits a real segment that would be completely unreached otherwise. Would you have bought one new though?
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Apr 29, 2017 19:06
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blugu64 posted:The anti gm/volt consortium is just myopic and dumb. There is a zero percent chance I'd drive anything electric aside from the Volt right now. People mock the 350 mile road trips, but it's a fact of life that door to door, that's how far from my folks I am. It's 90%+ at 75mph to boot, and I only take one 20min stop on the way. I don't want to stop more, I don't want to stop longer, I've seen every nook and cranny on the way to and from, and I just want to get the trip done. Aside from that I'm all electric, and it's great. The $12k used volt fits a real segment that would be completely unreached otherwise. That's why you move far enough away you can't just drive to visit your family and have to fly instead, problem solved.
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If I needed the Volt's range, I'd buy one. I have 3 kids - all of which are in carseats - so we use my wife's Town & Country for everything except my 50 mile daily commute to work. Paying many thousands more for a less attractive EV that is less efficient per mile makes zero sense for me.
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FistEnergy posted:IMO the Volt is too expensive, is ugly, has a poor quality interior, and basically put all its eggs in the Range Basket. The quality of the gen 2 was vastly improved over the gen 1 Volt. My issue with the Plug in Hybrid Ioniq is it seems like it wants to turn on the ICE engine too often, also it still has a normal transmission. I watched a few videos on the Plug in Ioniq and all the drivers got the engine to turn on with not too hard acceleration, when I drove a Gen 2 Volt, the only way to do that was to floor it. (Gen 1 volt would never do it, unless the battery was empty) Plug in Ioniq = Hybrid with a bigger battery Gen 2 Volt = EV with a gas range extender and the occasional boost under 100% acceleration
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Dbhjed posted:The quality of the gen 2 was vastly improved over the gen 1 Volt. While in normal/sport mode with a charged battery the gen 1 or gen 2 Volt will never run the engine even if you floor it and take it all the way up to the top speed. If it was happening in the Volt you drove, it was likely in hold/CS/mountain mode, or the battery was depleted. The only exception to this is if the outside temp is cold enough to trigger "ERDTT" (engine running due to temperature). This occurs at 30F normally. Or 14F if you have the Engine Assisted Heat setting on Deferred. Both are 100% EV until the battery is depleted otherwise. The gen2 has 2 electric motors, one at 87kW (117HP) and another at 48kW (64HP). When you put your foot down it uses both of them in tandem. The gas engine on the other hand is only 75kW (101HP). It also tries to keep the engine off as much as possible when in hold/hybrid mode. The engine will generally shut down when power needs are less than 6kW and/or speed is under 40mph. It seems to only fire back up when power needs are above 6kW for an extended amount of time. From what I understand the Prius Prime has the same issue as the ionic plugin.. even in EV mode, it will still start the motor up under times of high load stevewm fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Apr 30, 2017 06:36
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stevewm posted:While in normal/sport mode with a charged battery the gen 1 or gen 2 Volt will never run the engine even if you floor it and take it all the way up to the top speed. If it was happening in the Volt you drove, it was likely in hold/CS/mountain mode, or the battery was depleted. The Gen 1 Volt would never turn on the ICE unless the battery was low, but when renting a gen 2 for a week, I was able to get the ICE to turn on by pressing on the accelerator hard to get on the highway. I am talking 100% to the floor acceleration. But I don't remember how much was left on the battery, but they were not empty. The engine turned on for like 30 seconds then shut off again
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Apr 30, 2017 16:58
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How much load was put on the ICE here? I mean, I can't imagine it being very healthy for the ICE to turn on from stone cold, go full RPM, then shut off again after 30 seconds?
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Nidhg00670000 posted:How much load was put on the ICE here? I mean, I can't imagine it being very healthy for the ICE to turn on from stone cold, go full RPM, then shut off again after 30 seconds? It was a good push on it. It scared me the first time since my normal drive was the gen 1.
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Dbhjed posted:The Gen 1 Volt would never turn on the ICE unless the battery was low, but when renting a gen 2 for a week, I was able to get the ICE to turn on by pressing on the accelerator hard to get on the highway. I am talking 100% to the floor acceleration. But I don't remember how much was left on the battery, but they were not empty. The engine turned on for like 30 seconds then shut off again Strange. I've never had mine do that. And I've done a few pedal to floor runs.
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Dbhjed posted:The Gen 1 Volt would never turn on the ICE unless the battery was low, but when renting a gen 2 for a week, I was able to get the ICE to turn on by pressing on the accelerator hard to get on the highway. I am talking 100% to the floor acceleration. But I don't remember how much was left on the battery, but they were not empty. The engine turned on for like 30 seconds then shut off again I have floored our gen 2 probably 50 times full out in sport and normal and never had the engine come on. Not saying yours didn't but definitely not normal or even expected behavior. ClassH fucked around with this message at 19:35 on May 1, 2017 |
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ClassH posted:I have floored our gen 2 probably 50 times full out in sport and normal and never had the engine come on. Not saying yours didn't but definitely not normal or even expected behavior. Same! I just let tried this today and nothing.. Nice silent jaunt up to 80, battery power meter pegged, and 120kW output power showing on the dash. No engine being used.
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May 1, 2017 19:50
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Big TED talk/discussion with Elon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPaYrhUZSYQ Everything from the Boring company to all Tesla stuff to Trump to SpaceX etc. Also revealed a teaser image for the semi: 
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May 1, 2017 22:39
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Didn't The Boring Company literally start out as a joke on twitter?
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Collateral Damage posted:Didn't The Boring Company literally start out as a joke on twitter? It wasn't.
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stevewm posted:Same! I just let tried this today and nothing.. Nice silent jaunt up to 80, battery power meter pegged, and 120kW output power showing on the dash. No engine being used. Maybe something was up with the one I was renting, it was a rental after all and we know what kind of abuse those get.
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Would it be a good idea to use a Tesla + power inverter to power your computer for a day? I'm having my home electricity turned off to have work done, but still need to do stuff that day. This seems like a fine idea but idk if the 12V outlet is designed for that. I'm no electrician.
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smoobles posted:Would it be a good idea to use a Tesla + power inverter to power your computer for a day? I'm having my home electricity turned off to have work done, but still need to do stuff that day. How big a computer? I'd run a modern MacBook (including a 15" Pro) off it, probably not a gaming rig.
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smoobles posted:Would it be a good idea to use a Tesla + power inverter to power your computer for a day? I'm having my home electricity turned off to have work done, but still need to do stuff that day. Put her in camping mode with a good inverter and you should be good.
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May 3, 2017 03:29
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Platystemon posted:Tesla has a camping mode? An unofficial one. Car on, neutral, parking brake on. This way you can run the ac/heater all night while you are sleeping in the back. The 12 volts are enough to run a laptop but perhaps not a desktop. You could also use it to drive somewhere else...
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May 3, 2017 07:34
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Just check the size of the fuse on the 12v/cigarette plug, should be plenty for a laptop. The Leaf apparently has a 1500w 400v to 12v convertor, though you'd need to go directly to the battery to use most of that. People on the Tesla forums that have installed stereos and big amps should have an idea of the capacity of those convertors are. I'd honestly be shocked if it was less than the Leaf.
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Ford Fusion update:. 1827.1km on the car, only filled up tank 1.2 times. This thing is ridiculous. In a few months my daily drive to work is going to be 5km and the furthest I will need to drive is Costco, which coincidentally has a free EV plug across the street!
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A prius will run a refrigerator for a couple of days. There is even an OEM kit to hook it up to the whole house. I am sure there is a tesla powerwall hack. I would probably just rent a honda generator, make sure you put it outside.
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Platystemon posted:Tesla has a camping mode? Exactly how I camp on the side of PCH near Malibu. With a big enough inverter I don't see you having a problem; barring planned use of a desktop or something. If that's the case, rent a generator or kindly ask a neighbor to string an electrical cord. Unless you're a douche, they are, or it's not feasible, I can't see them saying no.
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Hizawk posted:Ford Fusion update:. 1827.1km on the car, only filled up tank 1.2 times. There's a Costco where they use km?!
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double ohm seven posted:There's a Costco where they use km?! 
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In France it's actually called C'ost-ce-co.
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Interesting: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/if-you-fast-charge-tesla-will-permanently-throttle-charging.90230/ Also: Pretty toxic forum there...
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Sounds like bullshit. Bjørn Nyland has done loads more miles and supercharging than that guy and that guy used 50 kW as well. But Bjørn's was a 2013, maybe it's implemented on newer models. Calling this "service techs say the darndest things" in lieu of more official confirmation.
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