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Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

doverhog posted:

Link? Anyways, he is the perse moderate opposition to the Master. What a time to be alive.

https://imgur.com/a/8V5BH

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdDak7RNPU

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
miten meni noin niinku omasta mielestä?

quote:

Paloittelumurhaaja Markus Pönkä ei saapunut vankilaan - Poliisi pitää vaarallisena, mahdollisesti aseistautunut

quote:

Pöngältä takavarikoidut 22 konepistoolin lipasta sekä kaksi rynnäkkökiväärin lipasta palautettiin.

Hovioikeus ei katsonut maaliskuussa 2017 antamassaan tuomiossa tarpeelliseksi vangita Pönkää välittömästi.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

quote:

Poliisi pitää Pönkää vaarallisena ja epäilee että mies on aseistettu.

Well yeah that's a pretty good suspicion, Police, since he was given all his ammunition back :psyduck: What the hell, courts?

EDIT: Lol that's not even as outrageous as this other guy:
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/201704292200114963_uu.shtml

quote:

Michael Penttilää alettiin kutsua sarjakuristajaksi, sillä hän on käynyt useita kertoja naisten kimppuun kuristamalla. Hänet on tuomittu kolmesta henkirikoksesta ja useista tapon yrityksistä.

Vuonna 1985 hän kuristi hengiltä äitinsä ja vuotta myöhemmin vastaavalla tavalla 12-vuotiaan tytön.

Ehdonalaiseen päästyään hän kuristi 42-vuotiaan naisen keväällä 1993. Syytetty oli mielentilatutkimuksen mukaan ihaillut alkukantaista, väkivaltaista miehuutta. Tosin hän oli vankilassa alkanut meikata ja pukeutua naisten alusvaatteisiin.

Vuonna 2012 Penttilä tuomittiin vankeuteen törkeästä raiskauksesta, törkeän pahoinpitelyn yrityksestä sekä vapaudenriistosta. Hän vapautui viimeksi vankilasta nelisen kuukautta sitten.

quote:

Rikoksen epäillään tapahtuneen 1. helmikuuta - 15. huhtikuuta välisenä aikana, jolloin Penttilä otettiin kiinni.

Vangitsemisoikeudenkäynnistä ensimmäisenä uutisoineen Alibin mukaan poliisi oli ottanut Penttilän kiinni Myllypurosta, missä hän oli yrittänyt tunkeutua erään naisen asuntoon. Penttilä oli lehden mukaan jäänyt verekseltään kiinni poliisien ehdittyä paikalle.

Penttilä on luokiteltu erittäin vaaralliseksi toisen hengelle ja terveydelle. Helsingin käräjäoikeus ei kuitenkaan suostunut poliisin vaatimukseen hänen vangitsemisestaan. Se laski epäillyn vapaaksi viikko sitten torstaina.

uhhhhhhh

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Apr 29, 2017

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin


Dude's pretty hardcore!

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Apr 29, 2017

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

Loppu työläisten agitaatiolle - Helsinkiin viimeinkin valkoinen vappu.

DarkCrawler posted:

EDIT: Lol that's not even as outrageous as this other guy:

I really wish we could keep our justice system as is but have like a two strikes law for violent crimes.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

brakeless posted:

Loppu työläisten agitaatiolle - Helsinkiin viimeinkin valkoinen vappu.


I really wish we could keep our justice system as is but have like a two strikes law for violent crimes.

This weather is practically a hate crime

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Mikä vittu siinä on ettei Suomi kelpaa daeshille? Johan tässä alkaa maabrändi kärsiä. Eikö ne tiedä meistä vai alkoholisoituuko niiden lähettämät soturit täällä liikaa ajaakseen rekalla väkijoukkoon?? Vai eikö ne löydä täällä väkijoukkoja

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

DarkCrawler posted:

This weather is practically a hate crime

It's a shame because now there's two good reasons to drink happening at the same time and one of them is wasted.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

brakeless posted:

Loppu työläisten agitaatiolle - Helsinkiin viimeinkin valkoinen vappu.

Jo oli aika, edellisestä ehti kulua 99 vuotta. Saisiko tälle juhlarahan?

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

DarkCrawler posted:

This weather is practically a hate crime

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Nenonen posted:

Mikä vittu siinä on ettei Suomi kelpaa daeshille? Johan tässä alkaa maabrändi kärsiä. Eikö ne tiedä meistä vai alkoholisoituuko niiden lähettämät soturit täällä liikaa ajaakseen rekalla väkijoukkoon?? Vai eikö ne löydä täällä väkijoukkoja

En ole ihan varma, mutta täällä ei käsittääkseni Syyrian myöntämä C-kortti kelpaa

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
http://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9589993

I mean not me, but I am guessing the dum-dums who voted for your party had different ideas

Glada vappen!

quote:

Edellisen hallituksen aikana tuli 100 000 työtöntä lisää. Tämä tosiasia ei punavihreillä puheilla muuksi muutu.
pretty sure that government was led by your government buddy, buddy, not the redgreenlefts :qq:

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 08:21 on May 1, 2017

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
One does wonder how exactly complaining to the cops would help if everybody has to sacrifice babies to Satan in order to get into a position of power, but I suppose that when they laugh him out of the room it will just be proof positive of how deeply the globalist conspiracy has wormed its way into our society.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000005195397.html

quote:

Hallitus aikoo julkaista perjantaina lakiesityksen, joka muuttaisi merkittävästi työttömyysturvaa ja tapaa hakea töitä.

Helsingin Sanomien tietojen mukaan jatkossa työttömän pitäisi hakea kolmen kuukauden aikana vähintään kahtatoista työpaikkaa. Jos työtön ei näin tekisi, hän menettäisi työttömyyskorvauksensa 60 päiväksi.

HS:n tietojen mukaan vielä äskettäin haettavien työpaikkojen määrä oli 15, mutta määrää pienennettiin niin, että hakemuksia pitää keskimäärin tehtailla yksi viikossa.

Työttömille ei enää uuden rekrytointi- ja osaamislain mukaan tehtäisi entiseen tapaan työllistymissuunnitelmaa ja haastatteluja, vaan työtön itse joutuu enemmän pitämään huolen aktivoitumisesta. Haastattelu tehtäisiin etenkin työttömyyden pitkittyessä.

Työttömälle tulisi velvollisuus ilmoittaa työvoimaviranomaisten verkkopalvelussa omasta aktiivisuudestaan vähintään kerran viikossa. Vielä ei ole tiedossa, millainen sähköisestä palvelusta tulisi.

Työvoimapalvelut siirtyvät vuonna 2019 maakunnille. Maakunnilla olisi edelleen velvollisuus järjestää työttömyyspalveluja ja etenkin aktivoida pitkäaikaistyöttömiä.

Nykyisin TE-toimistot tekevät työttömän kanssa henkilökohtaisen työllistymissuunnitelman. Jos työtön esimerkiksi kieltäytyy työpaikasta tai toimii muuten työvoimapoliittisesti moitittavasti, hän tietyin ehdoin menettää työttömyysturvansa 15–90 päiväksi.

Työmarkkinajärjestöt pitävät uudistusta monella tapaa ongelmallisena ja myös hölmönä. Niiden mukaan kahdentoista työpaikan velvoite johtaa siihen, että työttömät tehtailevat näennäishakemuksia mutta eivät saa viranomaisilta tarvittavaa palvelua vaan ovat oman onnensa varassa.

Työttömien ja työnantajien kohtaamispaikaksi on tarkoitus luoda sähköinen Työmarkkinatori, jonne työttömät voisivat luoda profiileja itsestään.

Järjestöjen mielestä edessä voi olla myös se, että työnantajat kyllästyvät valtaviin hakijamääriin ja hakevat jatkossa työntekijänsä muualta kuin työvoimaviranomaisen kautta. Näin Työmarkkinapaikalle ilmaantuisi vain vähän työpaikkoja, joita hakisi valtava määrä työntekijöitä.

Julkistamisen jälkeen lakiesitys lähtee lausuntokierrokselle. Laki on tarkoitus tulla voimaan 2019 alusta.

ministerit, mm. työministeri Lindström, ovat valitelleet työuupumuksestaan, työuupumushan on siitä kavala vaiva että se vaikuttaa päätöksentekoon yhtä haitallisesti kuin syvä humalatila mutta henkilö itse ei huomaa harkintakykynsä heikentyneen

varmasti on muuten kiva jossain vitun Kainuussa ilmoittaa joku kunnallisinsinöörin virka haettavaksi ja käydä sitten läpi 20,000 työhakemusta kaikilta kylien spurguilta ja hevosmiehiltä kun siellä tulee hakuun keskimäärin 5 uutta työpaikkaa vuodessa

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Nenonen posted:

http://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000005195397.html


ministerit, mm. työministeri Lindström, ovat valitelleet työuupumuksestaan, työuupumushan on siitä kavala vaiva että se vaikuttaa päätöksentekoon yhtä haitallisesti kuin syvä humalatila mutta henkilö itse ei huomaa harkintakykynsä heikentyneen

varmasti on muuten kiva jossain vitun Kainuussa ilmoittaa joku kunnallisinsinöörin virka haettavaksi ja käydä sitten läpi 20,000 työhakemusta kaikilta kylien spurguilta ja hevosmiehiltä kun siellä tulee hakuun keskimäärin 5 uutta työpaikkaa vuodessa

Hyvä uutinen esim. puhelinspämmääjäfirmoille, jotka voivat jatkossa työllistää tuhansia ilmaiseksi nollasopimuksilla ja vain provisiopalkalla (miinus vähintään 2000e työnantajakustannuksia toki).

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
Nyt menee jo todella sekavaksi touhu. Joku viranomainen valvoo, että 17 000 000 000 työhakemusta lähetetään viikossa? Juu. Toimii.

Ei täällä työnhakijoista ole pulaa kun töistä. Mutta saahan noinkin työllistettyä porukkaa...

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
TE-stapo valvoo :ninja:

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006
There's a new puoluekone up on the HS.fi website, so you can finally see how vihervassari you really are.

10 questions with no nuance, sounds just like political parties.

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

DanTheFryingPan posted:

There's a new puoluekone up on the HS.fi website, so you can finally see how vihervassari you really are.

10 questions with no nuance, sounds just like political parties.

Hmm interesting. It seems I agree 100% with myself.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

DanTheFryingPan posted:

There's a new puoluekone up on the HS.fi website, so you can finally see how vihervassari you really are.

10 questions with no nuance, sounds just like political parties.

I'm basically the flag of Bangladesh

and what are you saying about no nuance, there's, there's sliders and all?! :effort:

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
I, also, much to my surprise, 100% agreed with myself. Hyvä puoluekone.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
Migri has been doing the work of combing through applications of amnesty from refugees waiting for the decisions. Ideally every application is processed in an orderly manner, but political pressure from higher ups has resulted in hurried and sloppy work. In this case, to please the heads of departments, the more refugees you kick out of the country, the better. Thing is, some of the decisions made weren't in line with the law, and the rate of asylum decisions that were sent back to Migri by the courts has risen to 30%, compared to 24% last year. The rate could even be higher if all applicants contested with the final negative verdict.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
At least it has been established that converting to Christianity is a reason for the courts to reverse palautuspäätös. Herramme Jeesus pelastaa. :)

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

Rexroom posted:

Migri has been doing the work of combing through applications of amnesty from refugees waiting for the decisions. Ideally every application is processed in an orderly manner, but political pressure from higher ups has resulted in hurried and sloppy work. In this case, to please the heads of departments, the more refugees you kick out of the country, the better. Thing is, some of the decisions made weren't in line with the law, and the rate of asylum decisions that were sent back to Migri by the courts has risen to 30%, compared to 24% last year. The rate could even be higher if all applicants contested with the final negative verdict.

Sounds like there should be cash bonuses for every denied application to incentivize even speedier processing times.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE

DanTheFryingPan posted:

Sounds like there should be cash bonuses for every denied application to incentivize even speedier processing times.

Only if they privatize Migri, the current government doesn't want to increase public spending. Then they can demand processing fees from refugees, and if they want better customer service, they can pay more for it. :v:

Honestly though, that's a lovely work culture at Migri, and the amount of cases that bounce back from the court shows they have little regard to what comes to the law. That makes people like Ulla Appelsin sound hypocritical when they criticize people - like church priests - for breaking the law by hiding refugees. If the state isn't willing to follow it, why should the people?

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Rexroom posted:

Migri has been doing the work of combing through applications of amnesty from refugees waiting for the decisions. Ideally every application is processed in an orderly manner, but political pressure from higher ups has resulted in hurried and sloppy work. In this case, to please the heads of departments, the more refugees you kick out of the country, the better. Thing is, some of the decisions made weren't in line with the law, and the rate of asylum decisions that were sent back to Migri by the courts has risen to 30%, compared to 24% last year. The rate could even be higher if all applicants contested with the final negative verdict.

I mean this has basically been an open secret for a year and a half, combined with the hurried decisions to cut out humanitarian protection, to lessen the legal rights of asylum seekers, the weird rushed raids that end up detaining families who are still in the middle of their legal process, the insane notions that Iraq/Afghanistan/Somalia are "safe countries" when they are barely countries...

Persus are in the government and as proven in their tenure in it, the only thing they care about is preventing non-whites from coming to Finland and clobbering the ones already here as hard as possible. Okay, that and forced Swedish, apparently.

But it is the reality in EU, with the devil's deal made with Turkey and probably whoever ends up ruling Libya in half a dozen years. The countries where right-wing populists ARE the government are either taking in zero refugees or are building literal container camps for them. Greece has slowly become an place comparable to any other refugee camp, but since Greece is halfway to becoming a third world enclave inside the EU there is not much they can do about it.

What makes all this so ironic that the same certain hysterics who were screaming about all the refugees in the world coming in here and 100,000 Iraqis swarming to Finland thanks to the weak toothless globalist EU or whatever have been suspiciously quiet when the EU did what every reasonable person said they would and slowed the intake into a trickle, outsourcing this refugee crisis to the developing world, like all the others. And as we can see, the debate has switched from stopping them from coming in to booting the ones here out.

The chicken littles sure switched their tune about the importance of laws too once the new additions to it came...well ok any laws that punish racism and threats are still apparently wrong I guess.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 08:18 on May 5, 2017

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I thought Ligur was from Oulu?

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Jerry Cotton posted:

I thought Ligur was from Oulu?



- the Master Race, 2017

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Is ELÄMÄ ON VITTUJEN ELÄMÄ too long for a forum name?

e: If it is, mods please change thread title to General Nazi poo poo: ELÄMÄ ON VITTUJEN ELÄMÄ thanks in advance.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Rexroom posted:

Migri has been doing the work of combing through applications of amnesty from refugees waiting for the decisions. Ideally every application is processed in an orderly manner, but political pressure from higher ups has resulted in hurried and sloppy work. In this case, to please the heads of departments, the more refugees you kick out of the country, the better. Thing is, some of the decisions made weren't in line with the law, and the rate of asylum decisions that were sent back to Migri by the courts has risen to 30%, compared to 24% last year. The rate could even be higher if all applicants contested with the final negative verdict.

All this discourse about asylum seeking and asylum seekers needs to stop and handle one important question first: what the gently caress is the war raging in Sweden that forces people to leave the country, or what genocidal or other torturous practices does the Swedish goverment inflict upon those who hang around in Sweden.

If you can't find or identify any, you should perhaps consider the possibility that the whole asylum seeking business in Europe is a completely fradulent one. Which kind of makes all questions like "omg are all the decisions systems like Migri make perfect" more or less irrelevant.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
In what's possibly the least surprising revelation so far, not even the fact that the asylum application process is literally rigged to maximize the amount of denied applications is enough to satisfy the ligurs.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
Tell me more about the genocidal war raging in Sweden and Denmark.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
The Finnish border authorities have the final say about who let in to the country, not Sweden or Denmark. If you have a law to cite that said authorities broke, feel free to do so, nonetheless you are barking up an entirely wrong tree.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

DarkCrawler posted:

The Finnish border authorities have the final say about who let in to the country, not Sweden or Denmark. If you have a law to cite that said authorities broke, feel free to do so, nonetheless you are barking up an entirely wrong tree.

You fail to understand my post on so many levels, as is always the case, trying to respond to this in particular is not worth any more than this post.

It would take weeks or months of typing and you still would not get it. The border authorities broke no laws but instead chose to ignore some and there would have been plenty of ways to turn the tide quite legally... ahh bugger it, it's not worth the effort.

You are the guy, correct me if I'm wrong, who thinks there are some sort of international treaties and laws that decree Arab men in their 20s should wander around EU, from country to country, if they wish so, without passports, without a visa, without an identity, looking for a country they want to settle in and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. That sort of settles the case from my POV, you cannot be reasoned with.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Literally the biggest problem in Finnish politics is, as always, other people not understanding nazis :qq:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Truly it must be hard for ligur, eternally trapped in a world that cannot understand him.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
ligur is the modern Sisyphus, eternally struggling to bring the truth of the filthy mussulman's racialcultural inferiority to the masses, only to be thwarted at the last second by the vihervassarisuvakkis.

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DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Ligur posted:

You fail to understand my post on so many levels, as is always the case, trying to respond to this in particular is not worth any more than this post.

It would take weeks or months of typing and you still would not get it. The border authorities broke no laws but instead chose to ignore some and there would have been plenty of ways to turn the tide quite legally... ahh bugger it, it's not worth the effort.

You are the guy, correct me if I'm wrong, who thinks there are some sort of international treaties and laws that decree Arab men in their 20s should wander around EU, from country to country, if they wish so, without passports, without a visa, without an identity, looking for a country they want to settle in and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. That sort of settles the case from my POV, you cannot be reasoned with.
So that is a no, you can not point out any actual laws that were broken. Your only problem comes from your hosed up morals, based on your complete mischaracterisation of the situation, as always (were there non-male, non-adult refugees in Europe? Yes or no is sufficient) And as an aside anyways, 20-year old men are just as valid refugees as any other so repeating that retarded talking point doesn't actually change anything. Notice how you fail to point out any valid alternative on the part of authorities, as always just whining without presenting any solutions.

European nations decided that either they would partake on the refugee load, or they did not. Finland as an exemplary of Western morals and follower of laws and treaties it is a signatory to and a huge promoter of, chose to be the former. That you have a problem with this is an admitted moral failing on your part but I have no interest on delving on that.

Present an argument based on facts, writing and the law, or be quiet, nobody cares about your feefees on the issue. Especially your pathological fear of brown males :qq:

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 14:35 on May 5, 2017

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