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Moltrey posted:goro's whole thing is Pleasant Boy unless you're one of his many victims, his fanbase who he basically calls dumb morons that are being manipulated by him in a monologue, or sae (basically his only friend besides joker) who he talks poo poo about behind her back while doing adachi_rape_face.png right before he goes off to shoot his other friend in the loving head, you mean?
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I mean, I don't think it has to do with peoples' perverted sympathies or gay fanfic or w/e necessarily. People just like villains sometimes, because they're cool or stylish or more interesting than most of the good guys or whatever. Darth Vader and the Joker are two of the most popular and widely-recognizable fictional characters. Villains with a lot of screen time and dialogue in games and especially RPGs are usually popular even when they're psychotic dicks, like Kefka or uh, Adachi. There doesn't have to be some bizarre otaku culture explanation for everything
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"How dare you, a criminal who lives in an attic, have things I don't have? I'm entitled to have friends because I intentionally did everything I could to superficially make myself popular and get attention" - Goro akechi moments before he tries to murder a bunch of people who are getting in the way of his poorly thought out revenge plot (by loving over the guy HE wants to gently caress over before he can properly get hard over it)
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Apr 30, 2017 20:20
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There is only one good Goro from a game this year. He has one eye and he runs a nightclub.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:21
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darealkooky posted:unless you're one of his many victims, his fanbase who he basically calls dumb morons that are being manipulated by him in a monologue, or sae (basically his only friend besides joker) who he talks poo poo about behind her back while doing adachi_rape_face.png right before he goes off to shoot his other friend in the loving head, you mean? Look if Sae didn't want to get murdered by him then she should have put a little work into their relationship. Take the kid out to a proper sushi restaurant sometime, drat girl. The Lobotomy Kid posted:There is only one good Goro from a game this year. He has one eye and he runs a nightclub. I'll admit that I got their names mixed up in my head more than once thanks to Yakuza 0.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:21
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I am attracted to Goro, so i totally get it
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Apr 30, 2017 20:25
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wizard on a water slide posted:I mean, I don't think it has to do with peoples' perverted sympathies or gay fanfic or w/e necessarily. People just like villains sometimes, because they're cool or stylish or more interesting than most of the good guys or whatever. Those are pretty much the same thing though. Villains/rivals that are some combo of tragic, handsome, cool, or funny tending to be popular isn't a "bizarre otaku culture thing".
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darealkooky posted:"How dare you, a criminal who lives in an attic, have things I don't have? I'm entitled to have friends because I intentionally did everything I could to superficially make myself popular and get attention" - Goro akechi moments before he tries to murder a bunch of people who are getting in the way of his poorly thought out revenge plot (by loving over the guy HE wants to gently caress over before he can properly get hard over it) Honestly the worst thing about him is that if he had done nothing at all in regards to Shido then party politics would have seen Shido's dreams of political power shattered.
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darealkooky posted:unless you're one of his many victims, his fanbase who he basically calls dumb morons that are being manipulated by him in a monologue, or sae (basically his only friend besides joker) who he talks poo poo about behind her back while doing adachi_rape_face.png right before he goes off to shoot his other friend in the loving head, you mean? Also, and really the most damning piece of evidence 
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Apr 30, 2017 20:27
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Goro stinks
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Apr 30, 2017 20:29
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Goro is literally a serial killer who only starts to show any remorse when he finds out his dad was planning to have him killed all along and his murder-plan was all for nothing. I hope they don't serve pancakes in hell. 
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Apr 30, 2017 20:32
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I only picked the nice responses for Goro and he still wanted to blow my brains out. 
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Apr 30, 2017 20:33
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Moltrey posted:Oh no, the guy's awful cause he hates his fanbase that completely throw him to the wolves the second they find someone else to idolize over and hope that he too gets his life ruined by the Phantom Theives, what a criminal. Also it's not like Sae, the one person Goro ever interacts with on a personal besides, you really shows him, a teenager starved of it, much respect or courtesy to his face either Why does he deserve any respect though? He reveals himself that all of his success has come from using the Metaverse so he has no actual skills in being a detective. Add this to the fact that he is using his fake success to just feed his own ego and of course any professional would hate his guts.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:33
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Moltrey posted:Also, and really the most damning piece of evidence Yabba Dabba Demiurge was described as "Igor", the name box is not 100% correct at all times. also having vague justifications for not liking people doesn't mean you aren't unpleasant for mumbling under your breath about how terrible they are. a truly Pleasant Boy would've paid it no mind. Especially with sae since goro is pretty clear about how he's just giving her faux japanese respect instead of genuine respect and that sae's congnition of goro is as an actual Pleasant Boy who makoto can beat up super easily
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Hunt11 posted:Why does he deserve any respect though? He reveals himself that all of his success has come from using the Metaverse so he has no actual skills in being a detective. Add this to the fact that he is using his fake success to just feed his own ego and of course any professional would hate his guts. Yeah, it's telling that all of Akechi's success was engineered by Shido, and the one plan that was 100% his own was completely dead on arrival. Pleasant Boy more like Stupid Boy
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Apr 30, 2017 20:35
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akechi a poo poo
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Apr 30, 2017 20:35
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Real kicker is that not only did he get played by Shido, but he got his powers because be would. As counterpart to the Trickster, he was handpicked as the guy who'd use his powers most selfishly and short-sightedly. Ace Detective got played by everybody.
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Motto posted:Real kicker is that not only did he get played by Shido, but he got his powers because be would. As counterpart to the Trickster, he was handpicked as the guy who'd use his powers most selfishly and short-sightedly. Ace Detective got played by everybody. It's really funny when you realize that he thought he was playing everyone, when it turns out a cat, God, and everyone between was playing him like a fiddle.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:38
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Actually, he played with my heart.
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Goro sucks, hope that helps.
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Hunt11 posted:Why does he deserve any respect though? He reveals himself that all of his success has come from using the Metaverse so he has no actual skills in being a detective. Add this to the fact that he is using his fake success to just feed his own ego and of course any professional would hate his guts. darealkooky posted:Yabba Dabba Demiurge was described as "Igor", the name box is not 100% correct at all times.
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rips off shirt to reveal my GORO AKECHI DEFENSE SQUAD badge
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Apr 30, 2017 20:46
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Moltrey posted:rips off shirt to reveal my GORO AKECHI UMBRELLA ACCOUNT badge
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Apr 30, 2017 20:48
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Moltrey posted:Even you the player have almost every chance to just clown on this fool you don't have any proof is bad.
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Akechi is a great character because he's specifically made from head to foot with the intention of you to hate him. First you hate him because of how obnoxiously perfect he is. Then, you hate him because after the reveal, he's a bad guy and acts like a complete fuckhead. THEN, you hate him more, after you fight him in Shido's Palace, because you find out the reason he's murdering people is because he wants to make his lovely dad like him before he pulls the rug out from under him. I hate Akechi, and that's why I love Akechi.
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Moltrey posted:A lot of Goro's frustration comes that theoretically, he should be widely loved, and for the most part really is not despite totally should be given the public's knowledge of him, it's just that the public sucks, which he views as just another failing of the system. The ending is built on the fact the public sucks and is a failing system, because they don't adore the phantom thieves.
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Moltrey posted:Because Goro's still a human being and as far as anyone knows, a pretty great one. The point of the story is that yeah, despite Goro's constant attempts to gain respect and status, it all either fails or turns to sand in an instant due to it being built on lies. Even you the player have almost every chance to just clown on this fool you don't have any proof is bad. A lot of Goro's frustration comes that theoretically, he should be widely loved, and for the most part really is not despite totally should be given the public's knowledge of him, it's just that the public sucks, which he views as just another failing of the system. This is just too much. My whole post resolved around the fact that those working on the prosecuting side would grow to hate a teenager who somehow manage to achieve all this success without doing any real work for it. Especially when he gets all these favors from the higher ups and is doing all this because he is a media whore. Also do you want to know why the system is so amazingly lovely right now? It is because of Akechi. Society does have a problem of bastards being able to rise to the top because of their willingness to do lovely things and society not being as good at catching them as it should be. By abusing the metaverse Akechi was able to ensure that the worst people in society where able to rocket to the top and anybody who got in their way ends up dead or crazy. Yes he had a lovely childhood, but a sociopathic rear end in a top hat who is doing all he can to ensure that society gets even worse does not deserve any pity when society has the gall to stop sucking on his dick.
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Back to something a couple pages ago, but I actually really like that Akechi being the traitor isn't the actual twist. Like, he's not Adachi 2.0. The twist isn't *gasp* the guy who's never liked the Phantom Thieves sold out the Phantom Thieves--it's that the Phantom Thieves knew it the whole time and were actually playing him. It was a pretty great "heist movie" sort of twist and was a good choice for Persona 5. They were never gonna have another Adachi situation so I'm glad they took a different route and also let the Phantom Thieves be the smart ones for like exactly one time in the story.
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Akechi has a metal briefcase with a stylized "A" on the side. He is the worst besides Mishima. Also the whole "serial killer" thing doesn't help.
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I dunno if you can call akechi a serial killer given he doesn't seem to kill for pleasure. He's more like a professional orphan creator
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Today's "thing I initially missed": When Futaba's clowning on Mishima during that one scene where he shows up in the diner, she finds him so unmemorable that she even gets his name wrong. She calls him "Nishima", twice, and he doesn't even correct her on it
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darealkooky posted:I dunno if you can call akechi a serial killer given he doesn't seem to kill for pleasure. He's more like a professional orphan creator He does kill for fame and personal gain though. And serial killer literally just means 'has murdered multiple people'
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That's great e: to the futaba thing
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Real question about goro is why the gently caress doesn't he have a unique boss theme
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I know it's been noticed a million times but I love how Kaneshiro basically transforms into Malibu's Most Wanted, then Nae Naes to get Piggytron to let him in. Then when Piggytron goes into Super VIP mode he basically Gangnam Styles on top of it
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Zore posted:He does kill for fame and personal gain though. And serial killer literally just means 'has murdered multiple people' I thought the fame/detective stuff was just a side benefit from how they resolve shidos dirty work so it doesn't get traced back to him
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Zokari posted:Goro is literally a serial killer who only starts to show any remorse when he finds out his dad was planning to have him killed all along and his murder-plan was all for nothing. I hope they do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtEFEdrrXc4
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JOHNSON COCKSLAP posted:The ending is built on the fact the public sucks and is a failing system, because they don't adore the phantom thieves. I mean, at that point the Phantom Thieves are over the whole "fame and recognition" thing, it's more about how even after their Prime Minister-elect confessed to multiple murders, massive corruption, and completely defrauding the electoral process, people didn't care and wanted a strong leader to take care of everything for them Oxxidation posted:Also he dies an incredibly obvious but offscreen death, which gives the fanfic writers tons of grist for the mill when they're not busy writing stories about the handsome teens putting their mouths on each other. 
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Hunt11 posted:This is just too much. My whole post resolved around the fact that those working on the prosecuting side would grow to hate a teenager who somehow manage to achieve all this success without doing any real work for it. Especially when he gets all these favors from the higher ups and is doing all this because he is a media whore. Also do you want to know why the system is so amazingly lovely right now? It is because of Akechi. Society does have a problem of bastards being able to rise to the top because of their willingness to do lovely things and society not being as good at catching them as it should be. By abusing the metaverse Akechi was able to ensure that the worst people in society where able to rocket to the top and anybody who got in their way ends up dead or crazy. Yes he had a lovely childhood, but a sociopathic rear end in a top hat who is doing all he can to ensure that society gets even worse does not deserve any pity when society has the gall to stop sucking on his dick. Also the system was always broken. It's not Goro's fault that he was neglected by the foster system. It's not Goro's fault that Kamoshida had such a powerful influence over Shujin and was ruining teenagers lives. lovely Adults are lovely Adults. While yes, Akechi certainly doesn't help the problem, it's not like he's happy with things as they are, but continues to work opposite. His, yeah probably dumb, plan is to help Shido rise, and then use the Metaverse to just pull the entire rug out from under him, causing one of the biggest social reforms of Japan. Granted yes, it's pretty bad just HOW focused on his father he is, and he also wants to take full credit for the unmasking of Shido, but the kid is 17 years old and his dad ruined his entire life from the get-go, Goro's point of view isn't incomprehensible to me Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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