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Copts and Catholics now recognize the validity of each other's performance of the sacrament of Baptism.
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Maybe instead of essential rights, we could take the De Maistre stratagem? Kill everyone and everything - it's the only absolutely surefire way to cleanse the world of sin.
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Apr 29, 2017 02:34
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Copts and Catholics now recognize the validity of each other's performance of the sacrament of Baptism.
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Apr 29, 2017 04:03
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HEY GAIL posted:i know bel_canto likes rules lawyering, so here's a nice little thing: the copts and the eastern orthodox recognise each others' sacraments (i think). the eastern orthodox and the catholics recognise each others' sacraments (sometimes). but the copts and the catholics did not recognise each others' baptisms until recently. it's the ring species of baptisms
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Apr 29, 2017 04:24
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T___A posted:I highly doubt that. The church has uniformly considered baptism performed by trinitarians to be valid even if their other sacraments are not considered valid since the Council of Arles in 314.
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Apr 29, 2017 04:26
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From what I've read, Copts were previously dissatisfied with Catholic baptismal technique.
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Apr 29, 2017 04:34
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HEY GAIL posted:then what's up with Thirteen Orphan's link? Regardless I highly doubt Coptic Churches have a invalid baptism. The Diocese of Honolulu has a good list of who does and does not perform a valid baptism.
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Apr 29, 2017 04:46
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hey guys shut up and click this link http://moehistory.tumblr.com/post/155168733611/a-clever-nun-who-is-proficient-in-philosophy-and EDIT: http://moehistory.tumblr.com/post/148887081954/an-english-nun-who-is-also-a-philosopher-being-a also this one Senju Kannon fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Apr 29, 2017 06:28
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Senju Kannon posted:hey guys shut up and click this link http://moehistory.tumblr.com/post/133536455832/a-young-girl-lawyer-ascetic-and-academic
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Apr 29, 2017 06:30
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T___A posted:lovely reporting? Confirming what is already in place? Looks like you're right, the article was worded poorly. Though it was a joint-statement, the only change was on the Coptic Church's part. Thirteen Orphans fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Apr 29, 2017 06:31
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http://moehistory.tumblr.com/post/120448121575/a-female-werewolf-one-of-rockys-children-as-an this is for you tias i am desperately looking for anything buddhist on that site but until i find it make do with me posting this; https://namikala.tumblr.com/post/142569451282/finally-figured-out-where-to-play-the-namu-amida
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Apr 29, 2017 06:37
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aquinas is nowhere near fat enough
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Apr 29, 2017 06:46
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StashAugustine posted:aquinas is nowhere near fat enough They simply don't acknowledge the Protestant smear-campaign against the dumb ox. Edit: Found this gem: Mr Enderby posted:Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches. Thirteen Orphans fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Apr 29, 2017 |
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Apr 29, 2017 06:50
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pidan posted:It's always the most fun to talk about edge cases, and robots are safely removed from the real world. Do severely disabled human beings have human rights? Ohh boy. Do robots? This one's more fun to discuss. Yeah, but when you're straight up asked right now to explain why you back up a sister who expresses reprehensible hate for real-life humans existing now and she's all like "sorry, writing this paper about sexist machine intelligences is a better use of my time", it doesn't matter if it's a good futurist issue. Senju Kannon posted:http://moehistory.tumblr.com/post/120448121575/a-female-werewolf-one-of-rockys-children-as-an That's two seconds of my life I'll never get back 
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Apr 29, 2017 11:22
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Thirteen Orphans posted:They simply don't acknowledge the Protestant smear-campaign against the dumb ox.
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Apr 29, 2017 11:45
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-wrong thread-
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Apr 29, 2017 23:45
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 Here is a poor cell phone pic I took of some classic Islamic calligraphy adapted to NT verses, from the Cathedral for the diocese of Raiwind in the United Church of Pakistan.
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Apr 30, 2017 02:41
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I ran across an interesting tweet yesterday: https://twitter.com/SlacktivistFred/status/858473690660560896 "I'm generally an open-table, all-are-welcome kinda guy, but stop allowing ICE/CBP agents to receive communion." Aside from this being impossible for Catholics (short of a bishop placing all ICE agents in his diocese under interdict, which I suppose is possible), it seems to present interesting theological problems. If someone is an "open-table, all-are-welcome" person, that suggests to me that denominational boundaries are no issue, and maybe even being baptized might not be a requirement. (I don't actually know Fred Clark's denomination.) If being a Christian at all isn't a requirement, how does placing other requirements even work?
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Apr 30, 2017 19:03
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The phrasing had me wondering if ICE had, like, invaded a church during mass to arrest somebody. It sounds like he's just suggesting moral punishment, though.
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Apr 30, 2017 19:45
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So, I heard in another thread that Jehova's Witnesses actually do not believe Jesus to be God, but instead an archangel of some kind. Can anyone confirm this? If they actually believed it, isn't this a really, really big deal, theologically speaking?
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Apr 30, 2017 19:54
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Tias posted:So, I heard in another thread that Jehova's Witnesses actually do not believe Jesus to be God, but instead an archangel of some kind. Can anyone confirm this? 100% true; I spent about six months meeting once a week with one, because she came by my house and she wanted to argue religion with me. Their translation of the New Testament alters verses usually used to argue for Jesus's divinity; for example, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." They believe that there is only one archangel, because only the Archangel Michael is specifically given that title, and that when God needed to send a savior, he caused the Archangel Michael to be born as Jesus. Because death results in annihilation (until God, who remembers you, re-creates you exactly as you were before you died), Jesus did not literally rise from the dead, never mind preach to the souls of the dead; he was re-created to show the apostles what was in store for them when they and the other 143,989 Witnesses return to rule the perfect world God will create after completely destroying this one. (There will only ever be 144,000 people in Heaven. Most JWs do not believe they are among that number. The bread and wine are passed around yearly, but no one receives unless they believe they will be going to Heaven rather than being re-created to live on the re-created Earth.)
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Apr 30, 2017 20:29
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I kinda like the idea of a religion where just being an okay ish member doesn't guarantee you a primo slot in heaven. Less so the not using modern medicine thing. I had a friend in junior high die of a grand mal seizure because he was a witness and so couldn't take anti seizure meds.
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Apr 30, 2017 20:59
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Yes, it's true: I had some of them at my door and we talked for a couple of hours. I don't like policing the definition of "Christian" extensively, but I feel like not believing in the divinity of Christ is a pretty low bar to miss for being allowed into the clubhouse.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:21
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Bel_Canto posted:Yes, it's true: I had some of them at my door and we talked for a couple of hours. I don't like policing the definition of "Christian" extensively, but I feel like not believing in the divinity of Christ is a pretty low bar to miss for being allowed into the clubhouse. It's sort of like asking if Mormons are Christian. Both Mormons and JWs have beliefs that are far outside of little-o orthodox Christianity but they consider themselves Christians and it's not our place to judge
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Apr 30, 2017 21:27
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Interesting stuff, thanks!
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Apr 30, 2017 21:31
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cis autodrag posted:I kinda like the idea of a religion where just being an okay ish member doesn't guarantee you a primo slot in heaven. Less so the not using modern medicine thing. I had a friend in junior high die of a grand mal seizure because he was a witness and so couldn't take anti seizure meds. JWs just refuse blood transfusions and alternative medicine ('cause Satan is in those acupuncture needles.) You sure your friend wasn't a Christian Scientist? They refuse everything.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:41
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Pellisworth posted:It's sort of like asking if Mormons are Christian. Both Mormons and JWs have beliefs that are far outside of little-o orthodox Christianity but they consider themselves Christians and it's not our place to judge It's been this thread that has opened my eyes to a lot of the differences between the Mormonism I grew up with and traditional Christianity, and it's been a weird realization to find out just how different they are. It's not a thing the LDS Church talks about at all.
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MarsDragon posted:It's been this thread that has opened my eyes to a lot of the differences between the Mormonism I grew up with and traditional Christianity, and it's been a weird realization to find out just how different they are. It's not a thing the LDS Church talks about at all. Let me guess, no silly hats?
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Apr 30, 2017 23:42
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Let me guess, no silly hats? Even the Baptists get in on the silly hats - well, mostly the African American women, but still.
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The Phlegmatist posted:JWs just refuse blood transfusions and alternative medicine ('cause Satan is in those acupuncture needles.) You sure your friend wasn't a Christian Scientist? They refuse everything. I mean, he told me he didn't take meds because he was a JW.
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I don't think Prince had that problem... Also our organist had car trouble for Mass this morning so we had to do everything a cappella. Turns out Catholics have no idea how to sing without organ accompaniment... 
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May 1, 2017 03:00
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And yet they invented Gregorian Chant? E: Which I very much enjoy despite it being essentially indoor yodeling. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:48 on May 1, 2017 |
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May 1, 2017 03:45
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The Phlegmatist posted:I don't think Prince had that problem... You mean Catholics in your area can sing with it? 
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May 1, 2017 03:45
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The Phlegmatist posted:I don't think Prince had that problem... Maybe there's more than one type of witness? I dunno, I'm not an expert. Just a kid who watched a friend die.
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May 1, 2017 03:57
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Who knows. Sorry about your friend  Anyway growing up Church of Christ it was weird that people couldn't open up their hymnal to whatever page and just start singing on-key. Do you see what instruments in church gets you??? This morning wasn't a joyful noise unto the Lord, that's for certain.
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May 1, 2017 04:17
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did you know; it's hard to sing if you can't read music and haven't been trained in how to use your voice. almost like you need some base music education if you want people to sing good.
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May 1, 2017 04:22
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The Phlegmatist posted:I don't think Prince had that problem... Nothing wrong with making a joyful noise unto the Lord. 
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Let me guess, no silly hats? No hats at all, let alone silly ones.
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May 1, 2017 06:50
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happy mary and/or communism day
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Happy first of may liturgigoons. Spring has come, Joseph the Worker protect you, and may the powers above turn away the police <3
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